4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

No color volume SEI messaging as on the previous page…..just easy reading and viewing here – http://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com...s-clips/613234

[Opips3]

Nice!

No cgi graphite
No vfx render
No 2k DI master
No Children

[Pieter V]

The DI info for Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens is back at 2K.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

The DI info for Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens is back at 2K.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

Not surprised, I think someone jumped the gun when that ASC article came out. Unfortunately working with 4K scans is not the same thing as finishing in 4K...but hopefully that stuff's been archived so that they can do a 4K rebuild sooner rather than later (although given the huge amount of VFX throughout the movie there's gonna be a lot of 2K upscaled stuff for sure).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Not surprised, I think someone jumped the gun

As stated before…wishful thinking by imdb. They would do well to follow this thread.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Unfortunately working with 4K scans is not the same thing as finishing in 4K...

Nor, as history has taught folks, does working with 8K scans necessarily mean an 8K finish, e.g. - http://in70mm.com/news/2008/baraka_restored/index.htm

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

But will it be shot in HFR?

I beg to differ my friend . Pertaining to 4K narrative cinema, perhaps that sentiment may very well be true, but for HFR advocates who still embrace HFR, the latest effort to change that mindset is coming from Ang Lee….http://nab16.mapyourshow.com/7_0/ses...ScheduleID=757

On the other hand, I believe it is difficult to find fault with the merit of HFR for sports (see slide 13 of the cutting edge Dutch Guild pdf a couple pages ago which I linked folks to after having it been passed to me by a colleague), the slide 13 depicting a collaborative study by professionals backed by utilizing scientific QoE (quality of experience) methodology.

[Penton-Man]

One of the tiny pics in that referred to Dutch Guild pdf reminds me of a past production event, one moment while I search my files for further illustration for readers.

[Penton-Man]

This larger pic illustrates a nice relaxing job ....at least for the shader (that’s the job description term we use in the biz) seated on the left.




For as you can see, he’s enjoying life relatively stress free , leaning back with arms folded in front enjoying the event, whereas the shader on the right is busy tinkering with all dem dials and buttons, rigid seating position, etc. Because for one thing, ‘lefty’ is dealing with ST 2084 which is reversible whereas with ‘righty’, knee and Rec. 709 is being constantly adjusted per situation and often is not reversible.

[Penton-Man]

Workflow for thee ^ above HDR/SDR project….

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Save the forum?...

You're a good man too.

[XJF]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You're a good man too.

Dude... Seven posts in a row? That's got to be some kind of internet record.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by XJF

Dude... Seven posts in a row? That's got to be some kind of internet record.

Shucks, you’re making me blush as I’ll take that as a compliment given thee intended unifying nature of this thread. As for #7, I like Geoff and I rarely take the time to click on those ‘thanks’ buttons so I felt that recognition in order. #1-6 definitely of technical merit, not to mention the pics be rather unique , even perhaps if some can’t appreciate the value of the illustrations for months. Hell, it took the *internet world* months (years?) to appreciate this from the time it was posted….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post9754213 <- it wasn’t Marilyn’s fine posterior either.

But Dude, that aint nuthin compared to how fast I’ve seen Radiologists read and dictate out imaging studies containing a plethora of images feeding into an HD monitor from an Emergency Room when human mortality and morbidity are at stake…..not to mention a *mistake* potentially resulting in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Amazing folks dem radiologists as not only the patients, but a chorus of fellow physicians often depend on their quick educated expedited reports. No fluff, no marketing, just hard solid facts spewed out in record time.

To your query as to my style, if you're new to the game, I try to make the most of my limited time here. When logged in, mostly just post/read this thread or sometimes quickly scan (filtering out the noise), in one or perhaps two of the secondary non-sticky threads further downstream in the UHD 4K forum that catch my eye for some reason or another (nothing did today, ergo the 7 in row here)…..occasionally, I’ll get to the Prem League thread when in a rare moment I’ve actually caught up with all the matches so their informed discussion doesn’t ruin it for me. Good folks there …..no misinformation, disinformation or speculative ‘science’ posted under the auspices of being *opinion* and therefore forum "allowable", despite the waste of time.

As for the 7 in-a-row thing, I really don’t know if that be a record. You’d probably have to check out my responses in the 4 million viewership Insider thread (scroll down somewhere to the middle) https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61 to verify since you feel compelled to comment. I may have even broken that *record* if laid up after some surgery or posting while in route going to or coming back from some show or conference.

[Penton-Man]

Switching off the next gen parameter of HDR for a moment….
‘Real’ 4K, many seem preoccupied with ‘real’ 4K movies, e.g. ‘I don’t want no stinkin upscales, etc. I want my 4K ‘pure’. Nothing wrong with that but since the preoccupation with rez, can anyone list all the cameras (digital) which actually qualify as having enough resolving power to produce a ‘real’ 4K image in 4:2:2 sampling? Or if that seems too demanding, just name the camera which qualifies for 4K 4:4:4 (Stacey, keep quiet).

dvdmike, you must know the answer to the challenge. Not to fear, if you get the list wrong, I won’t bite.

Think on it. Gotta go now as must help out with the dinner preparing (believe me, I'm of basic skill set as I take orders from my better half with the cuisine thing). We couldn’t get tickets tonight to this…. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/...ic-at-la-live/

P.S. XJF, I condensed it to two. I’m slipping.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Switching off the next gen parameter of HDR for a moment….
‘Real’ 4K, many seem preoccupied with ‘real’ 4K movies, e.g. ‘I don’t want no stinkin upscales, etc. I want my 4K ‘pure’. Nothing wrong with that but since the preoccupation with rez, can anyone list all the cameras (digital) which actually qualify as having enough resolving power to produce a ‘real’ 4K image in 4:2:2 sampling? Or if that seems too demanding, just name the camera which qualifies for 4K 4:4:4 (Stacey, keep quiet).

dvdmike, you must know the answer to the challenge. Not to fear, if you get the list wrong, I won’t bite.

Need a little help? She’s holding one from on the list…..

[Penton-Man]

Whereas he (in the video clip) is not…. http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/br...sian-adventure

As an aside, anyone here shot (drift dive with the fast current) the Tiputa pass at Rangiroa with a heavy film camera/underwater housing before the south pacific atoll became a more well known diving mecca?

Got any pics of doing it?

[Penton-Man]

Scientific Encoder and codec shootout …. http://compression.ru/video/codec_co..._2016_free.pdf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by XJF

Dude... Seven posts in a row? That's got to be some kind of internet record.

As far as records go, I think that today’s milestone of 20,000 interval views (which we just hit) in less than a week's time does represent a new record for this humble thread. I assign primary blame to this over exuberant reading by lurkers to the mind powers of member Agent DVD (top of page) which can be quite powerful

and the encouragement by the auctioneer gkolb from Bakersfield on p.380, Pieter, the cat man et al. I hope things cool down here or else the administration may need to purchase new, larger cooling fans for our servers.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Shucks, you’re making me blush as I’ll take that as a compliment given thee intended unifying nature of this thread. As for #7, I like Geoff and I rarely take the time to click on those ‘thanks’ buttons so I felt that recognition in order. #1-6 definitely of technical merit, not to mention the pics be rather unique , even perhaps if some can’t appreciate the value of the illustrations for months. Hell, it took the *internet world* months (years?) to appreciate this from the time it was posted….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post9754213 <- it wasn’t Marilyn’s fine posterior either.

But Dude, that aint nuthin compared to how fast I’ve seen Radiologists read and dictate out imaging studies containing a plethora of images feeding into an HD monitor from an Emergency Room when human mortality and morbidity are at stake…..not to mention a *mistake* potentially resulting in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Amazing folks dem radiologists as not only the patients, but a chorus of fellow physicians often depend on their quick educated expedited reports. No fluff, no marketing, just hard solid facts spewed out in record time.

To your query as to my style, if you're new to the game, I try to make the most of my limited time here. When logged in, mostly just post/read this thread or sometimes quickly scan (filtering out the noise), in one or perhaps two of the secondary non-sticky threads further downstream in the UHD 4K forum that catch my eye for some reason or another (nothing did today, ergo the 7 in row here)…..occasionally, I’ll get to the Prem League thread when in a rare moment I’ve actually caught up with all the matches so their informed discussion doesn’t ruin it for me. Good folks there …..no misinformation, disinformation or speculative ‘science’ posted under the auspices of being *opinion* and therefore forum "allowable", despite the waste of time.

As for the 7 in-a-row thing, I really don’t know if that be a record. You’d probably have to check out my responses in the 4 million viewership Insider thread (scroll down somewhere to the middle) https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61 to verify since you feel compelled to comment. I may have even broken that *record* if laid up after some surgery or posting while in route going to or coming back from some show or conference.

Addendum:
For, between the basic meat and potatoes….and banana posts, like so



long before other forums are even aware of such concepts, I (we) discuss things like transforms and advanced color with our most solid contributors that may well become the DNA building blocks for imagery presented downstream in consumer 4K devices in years to come.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

‘Real’ 4K, many seem preoccupied with ‘real’ 4K movies, e.g. ‘I don’t want no stinkin upscales, etc. I want my 4K ‘pure’. Nothing wrong with that but since the preoccupation with rez, can anyone list all the cameras (digital) which actually qualify as having enough resolving power to produce a ‘real’ 4K image in 4:2:2 sampling? Or if that seems too demanding, just name the camera which qualifies for 4K 4:4:4 (Stacey, keep quiet).

dvdmike, you must know the answer to the challenge. Not to fear, if you get the list wrong, I won’t bite.

Think on it.

I’m restricting the real 4K camera list challenge to digital motion picture cameras as we’ve already been through determining (beyond urban myths) the max resolution of film back in the day…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post10326202

P.S.
I realize this challenge isn’t quite as exciting as comparing the per cent coverage of the DCI P3 color spectrum between different UHD/4K consumer TVs, i.e. this one has 94%....this one has 95%, but for at least non-VFX content, I think everyone interested in 4K does want their ‘real’ 4K, don’t they?....and that starts from the acquisition.