The Criterion Collection

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by KilloWertz

A Blu-ray should not get a 5/5 for PQ unless it truly is perfect, and it should have nothing to do with whether it's eye candy or not. Stagecoach is obviously not a 5/5 for multiple reasons, but neither is a film that has any kind of PQ defect at all. While I have yet to watch Pather Panchali, multiple things are mentioned in the review that should have instantly eliminated any chance of it receiving a 5/5 in PQ. It's not perfect, whether it's because they had to use multiple film elements or not.

But what if the source isn't perfect? If it replicates the source, then it should get a 5, regardless if the source has out of focus shots, scratches, etc. Nothing is perfect, or flawless, which the first rule of any "rating system."

[pedromvu]

Originally Posted by CriterionBlues

I'll say that of the three, Pather Panchali had the most noticeable issues for me, but I had first seen an earlier print so I know how bad it can (and did) look. This is one of the best presentations since the original distribution, so considering the importance of the films, I think the 5 stars are absolutely warranted.

This is my last post about this, since I don't want to keep arguing for a transfer I haven't seen entirely yet, also I just slightly disagreed from the few scenes I watched, since I just meant it would be a 4 or 4.5 PQ for me.

I don't think any movie PQ should get a pass or higher rating because of their importance, if anything I would say the opposite applies, a more important film should pass more strict standards.

[CriterionBlues]

Originally Posted by pedromvu

I don't think any movie PQ should get a pass or higher rating because of their importance, if anything I would say the opposite applies, a more important film should pass more strict standards.

No problem. I meant my comment to be chill and not argumentative. You are among my favorite posters here and I respect your opinion even if I disagree.

By importance, I was referring to the restoration and what an important undertaking that was. You'll find that the second and third film are even better, with only occasional blemishes, and I highly recommend you watch the piece on the restoration on the third disc. Mostly, I would enjoy the films. That's what really set this version apart from others, because the times I watched them before, the poor condition of the print distracted me from enjoying the films.

[pedromvu]

Originally Posted by CriterionBlues

No problem. I meant my comment to be chill and not argumentative. You are among my favorite posters here and I respect your opinion even if I disagree.

By importance, I was referring to the restoration and what an important undertaking that was. You'll find that the second and third film are even better, with only occasional blemishes, and I highly recommend you watch the piece on the restoration on the third disc. Mostly, I would enjoy the films. That's what really set this version apart from others, because the times I watched them before, the poor condition of the print distracted me from enjoying the films.

Yeah sorry if my post may have sounded a bit argumentative too, I guess I just missed your point.

I am really looking forward to these films since it is a blind buy for me, but I have enjoyed everything else by Ray.

I am certain I will not get distracted by the transfers as even if I may find small issues I have certainly watched and enjoyed films in much worse shape, and I am sure once I start watching them for the story and not just looking at the quality I will soon forget any problem, since I am not usually that strict about PQ.

After watching that many old films one gets used to problems from the sources, it is only when I get to watch a newer digitally shot film that I get more amazed by how perfect those usually look.

As much as I like the look of film, lately I don't care that much if a film is shot digitally, for example Hugo and The Martian look simply gorgeous, and I can't imagine those looking as good on film unless shot on 70mm or something like that.

[SlickDamian]

Originally Posted by SkyAntoine

Finished Brazil yesterday and watched 2/3 of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I think I'm trippin' today. I need to follow up with some Ozu to even things back out.

I wouldn't say that I love the films, but they really hold your attention and are some of the most interesting titles in the collection without a doubt. The dialogue in FALILV is phenomenal and vision for Brazil is unbelievable. Both are solid 8/10's...not masterpieces IMO, but darn good.

To me, Fear and Loathing is a masterpiece drug tripping movie.

[atlantajoseph]

Just finished The Shop on Main Street. There are just no words. Most devastating movie and effective storytelling I've experienced in a long time.

Everyone needs to see this at least once.

And it needs an upgrade.

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

But what if the source isn't perfect? If it replicates the source, then it should get a 5, regardless if the source has out of focus shots, scratches, etc. Nothing is perfect, or flawless, which the first rule of any "rating system."

If the source they had to work with can't be restored into perfect condition, then it shouldn't be a 5/5 because it's not perfect. I'm not talking about out of focus shots or something like that, which is source related. I'm talking about scratches and such, colors faded, scenes that are noticeably out of place with the rest of the movie in terms of quality, etc. I've seen plenty of old movies that were worthy of being a 5/5. Something like Planet Terror where it is intentionally messed up is a different story.

[Knaldskalle]

Originally Posted by atlantajoseph

Just finished The Shop on Main Street. There are just no words. Most devastating movie and effective storytelling I've experienced in a long time.

Everyone needs to see this at least once.

And it needs an upgrade.

This really is one of those must-see movies. For me, the movie was really good until...

[Show spoiler]the moment the old lady sees the people rounded up on the plaza and she instantly knows what's happening, her eyes go wide and she utters "pogrom!"

That moment, that one moment, for me lifts the entire film to a higher level.

[Scottie]

Shame on me for ever doubting the brilliance of The Killers. Grade A storytelling, folks.

[Polaroid]

Only related to Criterion because they have Godzilla in the collection but here is a teaser for the new film:

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[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by iScottie

I never understood why Frances Ha has an overall score of 3 out of 5.

Surely 5 for PQ + 5 for AQ + 3 for Extras = 4 overall, no?

It should have a 6 Overall.

But then, I just might be a fan of the film and of the people involved.

[CriterionBlues]

Originally Posted by atlantajoseph

Just finished The Shop on Main Street. There are just no words. Most devastating movie and effective storytelling I've experienced in a long time.

Everyone needs to see this at least once.

And it needs an upgrade.

How about that ending? It is quite a film. Even though it is technically Slovak, I consider it among the best of the Czech New Wave.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Shame on me for ever doubting the brilliance of The Killers. Grade A storytelling, folks.

Great great movie! (I'm specifically talking about the 1946 version, although the 1964 version works for me as well.)

"Don't ask a dying man to lie his soul into Hell."

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by CriterionBlues

How about that ending? It is quite a film. Even though it is technically Slovak, I consider it among the best of the Czech New Wave.

OK, now I really need to see this film. There are simply too many people talking about how good it is.

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Great great movie! (I'm specifically talking about the 1946 version, although the 1964 version works for me as well.)

"Don't ask a dying man to lie his soul into Hell."

When I watched it prior to the Blu-ray release this year, I loved the introduction, but wasn't particularly keen on the pace of the remaining of the film.

Last night I watched it again and I was engrossed the entire time. So good!

[theater dreamer]

I just finished watching Brian De Palma's Blow Out. What a fantastic early 80s thriller. The reviews I read were spot on. I'm a big John Travolta fan, and I have to agree that he gives one of his finest performances here. This will be part of my next Criterion order.

[monorail91]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

I just finished watching Brian De Palma's Blow Out. What a fantastic early 80s thriller. The reviews I read were spot on. I'm a big John Travolta fan, and I have to agree that he gives one of his finest performances here. This will be part of my next Criterion order.

Yay! I quite liked it too. Especially given what John Travolta's become lately (or what he's done to himself), it's great to discover quality movies from when he was in his prime.

[theater dreamer]

Upcoming Criterion Collection films (released on Blu-ray) on tv, December 10th thru 23rd. Please note, the times listed for Central Time Zone. Earliest showings listed only. Channel numbers correspond to Verizon FIOS. List may not be comprehensive.

Dressed to Kill, 12/11 3:35 AM, Thrill Max (Cinemax), 426, 926HD. Also Cinemax on Demand
Rushmore, today 3:15 PM, Showtime 2, 369, 869HD
Charade, 12/13 5:00 PM, Turner Classic Movies, 230
Inside Llewyn Davis, 12/11 9:00 AM, Showtime Showcase, 367, 867HD. Showtime on Demand
The Royal Tenebaums, 12/12 10:25 PM, Starz 6, 347, 847HD
Blow Out, EPIX On Demand (no expiration date listed)
The Big Chill, 12/16 2:25 PM, Encore 352. Encore on Demand
The Black Stallion, 12/14 12:50 AM, Starz Kids & Family, 345, 845HD. 12/20 11:45 AM, Encore 3, 353. Encore on Demand
Mulholland Drive HBO on Demand
Red River, today 7:00 PM, retroplex, 349
It Happened One Night, 12/12 9:10 PM, Movies!, 477
Harold and Maude, 12/12 10:40 PM, retroplex, 349
Easy Rider, 12/13 9:45 PM, HD Net, 746HD. HD Net on Demand. 12/17 4:15 AM, SundanceTV, 735HD
Summer With Monika, 12/14 7:00 AM, Turner Classic Movies, 230
12 Angry Men, 12/16 9:30 PM, Turner Classic Movies, 230
Anatomy of a Murder, 12/16 4:00 PM, Turner Classic Movies, 230
The Man Who Fell to Earth, 12/18 2:20 AM, retroplex, 349
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, 12/19 1:15 PM, Turner Classic Movies, 230
Tootsie, 12/21 4:30 PM, Movies!, 477
The Thin Red Line, 12/12 2:35 AM, Encore 5, 360
Stagecoach, 12/20 3:30 PM, Encore Westerns, 354
Videodrome, 12/22 12:55 AM, Encore Suspense, 356
On The Waterfront, 12/14 4:20 PM, GetTV, 478
The Graduate, 12/22 7:00 AM, Decades, 483
Days of Heaven, 12/17 11:40 AM, EPIX 2, 896HD
The Last Picture Show, 12/22 9:00 PM, SonyMovie, 737HD

[theater dreamer]

Originally Posted by monorail91

Yay! I quite liked it too. Especially given what he's become lately (or what he's done to himself), it's great to discover quality movies from when he was in his prime.

I've never seen Dressed to Kill, either. I have that on my DVR, and will watch it tonight.

I don't know what happened with him. The first Mission Impossible film is the last of his movies I enjoyed.

[CraigThom]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

I've never seen Dressed to Kill, either. I have that on my DVR, and will watch it tonight.

I don't know what happened with him. The first Mission Impossible film is the last of his movies I enjoyed.

I enjoyed Dressed to Kill, except

[Show spoiler]I saw Carrie (and the beginning of this film, for that matter), so the ending was a bit of "fooled me once".