The Criterion Collection

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by postmodel

A nice month I must say but what’s with Ratcatcher and Onibaba having DVD only extras? And some Blu-ray only for that matter.

I think it's just the stills galleries being DVD only... it's kind of a dated special feature, what with the internet and everything now.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by postmodel

I’m just gonna say it…thought for a sec Uncut Gems was gonna be the first 4K release and I wouldn’t have been mad haha.

Doesn’t matter though still grabbing it! A nice month I must say but what’s with Ratcatcher and Onibaba having DVD only extras? And some Blu-ray only for that matter.

Uncut Gems is better than Citizen Kane and would have made way more sense as the first Criterion UHD.

I will not be reading replies to this.

[JupiterMission]

Originally Posted by Snicket

The Lighthouse is better than Citizen Kane and would have made way more sense as the first Criterion UHD.

I will not be reading replies to this.

Fixed that for you.

[Gacivory]

Ratcatcher finally!!!!

High Sierra, Devi & Incredible Shrinking Man are two I haven’t seen, but sound really interesting! Will probably get!

[GasmaskAvenger]

What a strong month for the big C.

Uncut Gems, Onibaba and The Incredible Shrinking Man will all be mine!

[slop101]

I'm all over High Sierra - looks like a stacked set with lots of good extras.

[RBBrittain]

Originally Posted by GG88

UK rights are not an issue. I have the UK warner release, it has no mention of Universal. Copyright is RKO, Turner and Warner.

Other RKO titles like Suspicion, Out of the Past, King Kong and The Thing from another world have also had Warner releases in recent years. I think the upcoming Bringing up Baby will be licensed from Warner too.

Universal’s RKO catalogue UK rights either expired, reverting to RKO, or were sold to Warner.

I mentioned UK rights because the first Kane BDs there were from Universal; it was while writing it that I discovered the most recent ones were from WB.

I do know that the present-day RKO Pictures LLC (run by Ted Hartley whose late wife, Post Cereals heiress Dina Merrill, bought the remains of RKO in 1989) still holds in one form or another the copyright in most RKO films, subject to various distribution deals that mostly predated the Hartleys' purchase such as the Turner library/WB deal (originally for syndication, later for home video); unlike the pre-1986 MGM & pre-1948 WB libraries, Turner Entertainment/WB has never owned the RKO library outright. (Turner Entertainment Co., which IIRC was a renaming of pre-1986 MGM/UA Entertainment Co. after Kirk Kerkorian sold it to Ted Turner and thus the direct legal descendant of pre-1959 Loew's Inc. & 1959-80 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., remains the legal copyright holder for all Turner library MGM & WB films even though WB has controlled it ever since Time Warner bought Turner in the 1990's.)

It is entirely possible that the former international distribution rights to RKO films have reverted (or will eventually revert) to RKO Pictures LLC, and that Ted Hartley has decided to consolidate all his worldwide RKO catalog rights with their best known distributor WB. If so, then there is no longer any significant region licensing issue with Kane that might complicate Criterion's release of Kane on UHDBD via both its North America & UK units. (I started that post assuming there was until I discovered the latest UK releases of Kane thru WB.)

[scarletlion]

This is the first ever HD print of Ratcatcher right? It is one of the great British films for me. I am day 1. And also for Onibaba. I've had a terrible day today and this is just the tonic. This is frigging brilliant.

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by postmodel

Doesn’t matter though still grabbing it! A nice month I must say but what’s with Ratcatcher and Onibaba having DVD only extras? And some Blu-ray only for that matter.

They really don’t do still galleries anymore.

I’m assuming they’re leaving the DVD extras up bc those editions will still be available, or they’re keeping the feature set with new transfers on DVD. Guess we’ll see.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Uncut Gems is better than Citizen Kane and would have made way more sense as the first Criterion UHD.

I will not be reading replies to this.

Originally Posted by JupiterMission

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Originally Posted by Snicket View Post
The Lighthouse is better than Citizen Kane and would have made way more sense as the first Criterion UHD.

I will not be reading replies to this.

Fixed that for you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't see Criterion EVER releasing a UHD. I imagine that they'll start releasing 4K material on the Criterion Channel. But I don't see a UHD release.

[Shanghai Express]

High Sierra is what I'm talking about

[The Great Owl]

I'm pleased as pudding about High Sierra, The Incredible Shrinking Man, and Onibaba.

I'm going to stick with my existing Blu-ray of Uncut Gems for now, though.

[The Sovereign]

Awesome to see the High Sierra release! All the recent WAC speculation had really gotten me thinking about it again, and this Criterion edition looks amazing. As for Onibaba, another of my top upgrade wants comes off the list. Fantastic!

[RBBrittain]

Originally Posted by JupiterMission

Fixed that for you.

Perhaps you should have fixed the "no further replies" part as well. I see nothing about UHDBD in what's been posted here about the October announcement (have yet to read it myself, may be in my email), and I would expect the debut Criterion UHDBDs to drop in November anyway just ahead of Christmas (and either during or just ahead of the fall B&N sale). Still think they'll be Kane (changed from IHON) & Lambs, though there's a slim chance StudioCanal struck a new deal with Criterion for Mulholland Dr.

[GasmaskAvenger]

you watch: Criterion's first 4K UHD will be...

...

drum roll

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[Show spoiler]

[albert_m2]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Uncut Gems is better than Citizen Kane and would have made way more sense as the first Criterion UHD.

Oh FFS.

[sweetiefam]

Originally Posted by JupiterMission

Great month. Uncut Gems is a curious choice, but since I never picked up the original release, I'll probably get this one. Was the original release lacking in some way?

Yes. Nearly all A24 Blu-rays from Lionsgate are extremely barebones when it comes to supplements. This is a step in the right direction.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by regeyer

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't see Criterion EVER releasing a UHD. I imagine that they'll start releasing 4K material on the Criterion Channel. But I don't see a UHD release.

Saving this post for later. We already have a very credible source saying the first UHD is on the way.

#agedlikemilk

[albert_m2]

The credible source who deleted their tweet?

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by albert_m2

The credible source who deleted their tweet?

Nope. The user from criterion forum (they also has an account here) who gave evidence to their mod team who said it looked legit.