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Old 10-29-2021, 03:00 PM   #209201
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B&N are kind of frustrating that way when it comes to searching for some foreign titles. Best to search by UPC (which can be found looking at the database entries for the movie here)
Yea, it is quite ridiculous how they do that. Criterion doesn't even do it on their own website.
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:04 PM   #209202
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So will Criterion's UHD releases be digipacks across the board?
Mulholland Dr. and Menace II Society for sure are. Idk if Citizen Kane has been confirmed but it seems pretty likely. I'm kinda hoping Uncut Gems isn't though
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:27 PM   #209203
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Base on the e-mail from Barnes & Noble I just got all 4k titles released during the sale will be included. Pricing on the site is not a glitch

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Bling it on! The Barnes & Noble sale starts today! All Criterion Blu-rays and DVDs are 50% off, both online and in stores, through November 29.

Shop from over 1,000 films, including new editions of Once Upon a Time in China: The Complete Films, La strada, Devi, Ratcatcher, and The Incredible Shrinking Man. Plus: our new 4K UHD editions of Mulholland Dr., Citizen Kane, Menace II Society, and Uncut Gems!

My only question is will my local store carry them?
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Email from Criterion confirms the inclusion of the 4Ks.

Here's what I've got so far. Am I missing anything? Already own M, Häxan, and the less-relevant but related Passion of Joan of Arc.
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email from criterion confirms the inclusion of the 4ks.

Here's what i've got so far. Am i missing anything? Already own m, häxan, and the less-relevant but related passion of joan of arc.



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Old 10-29-2021, 03:40 PM   #209206
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Sadly, I think I'll skip this sale. I already bought a boatload of Criterions this summer, as well as Six Moral Tales a month ago. The shipping costs on Amazon are murderous at the moment, and with Mulholland Drive and Citizen Kane also coming in 4K in Europe, it would be best for me to wait. I might pair something up with The Red Shoes or The Piano in December-January if prices on Amazon remain low.

Instead, I'll recommend you all a bunch of underappreciated titles. If you feel like taking a chance with something you don't hear people talk about that often, all of these are fantastic choices as far as I'm concerned:




The Cremator - One of the absolute masterpieces of the Czech New Wave - vying for the top spot with Marketa Lazarova in my view, although the two are very different - this film is at the same time disturbing, humorous, beautiful and highly intelligent. Fans of Lynch will surely appreciate its style, while those who are not don't need to fear anywhere near the same level of confusion from this poignant pitch-black comedy.

Beyond the Hills - Because I have to promote something from my own country, don't I? While most of those who heard about Cristian Mungiu know him for 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (another excellent pick!), this one is just as good. A look at an isolated Orthodox community faced with a troublesome outsider they want to help but don't quite have the means to understand, this film manages to be a scathing indictment of religious mores, while at the same time humanizing those who don't know any better but to rely on them.

Mandabi - More than just the first film in a Sub-Saharan African language and the first color film of Ousmane Sembene, dubbed the father of African cinema, this is quite a brilliant and beautiful tragicomedy, stylistically in step with the French New Wave. Having watched most of the Six Moral Tales a couple of weeks prior, I couldn't help but notice parallels to Rohmer. To be sure, Sembene is not as vague with his dramatic and comedic moments, and the issues he is concerned with are very different, but he stops at times to show you unadulterated glimpses into Dakar and the surrounding villages just like Rohmer would show you glimpses into parts of France, and the characters feel complex and real in spite of the apparent simplicity of the story. I was very impressed with this one, and I'm looking forward to getting Black Girl in the future (I bought the UK Studio Canal edition because it was more convenient, but the Criterion uses the same restoration and also includes the written version of the story).

Dance, Girl, Dance - A film made by one of the few early female filmmakers, and future teacher of Francis Ford Coppola, Dorothy Arzner. The site reviewer sells this film woefully short. Far from being predictable, it surprised me with some of the turns it made! There is certainly a lot more depth to it than the glitzy cover would suggest, which might just be the point.

Bitter Rice - A seemingly lesser known Italian neorealist film, it is worth a watch if only for its novel and beautiful setting - the rice fields of Po Valley - and its incredible sex appeal. The Criterion is not really packed with extras, but it also comes at a lower price, so it presents less of a risk. This was the scene that convinced me to check it out:

Girlfriends - Praised by Kubrick himself, this film is sort of like Frances Ha, but from a time before young women searching for their path in life could afford the whimsy. Not that the film is bleak in any way, it's similar in themes and has its own silly moments (70s style), but overall I found it more down to earth and trenchant.

The Story of Temple Drake - One of the infamous "immoral" films made prior to the Hays Code, encouraging the restoration of more such titles should be reason enough for more people to buy it, but the film is certainly worth it on its own, as it features some great cinematography and the wonderful Miriam Hopkins, who has become somewhat of a favorite of mine after seeing her in Lubitsch's Design For Living and Trouble in Paradise. Mind you, this film is not a comedy, but Hopkins holds her own just as well.

The Cranes are Flying - A classic of Soviet cinema, I was surprised how few people around here have it. If the stairway scene featured on the film's page on Criterion's site doesn't convince you this is a fantastic pick, I don't know what will...

Canoa, A Shameful Memory - A fantastic Mexican film exploring an episode of genuine, real life horror, this could even be a good - if artsy and actually thought provoking - pick for Halloween. It starts out documentary-style, with bright colors, wonderful shots and a bitterly sarcastic in-frame narrator, only to devolve into a literal slasher. The fact that the main villain (who only wields a censer and a microphone himself) seems plucked out of a Bond movie makes it seem even more surreal that it's all based on true events.

People on Sunday - A little experimental silent film made during the final years of the Weimar Republic, this is a window into what Berlin used to be before the Nazis came to power and it was later on destroyed. It has therefore a twofold historical value - both as a film, and as a documentary of sorts. Billy Wilder claimed to have worked on it as a scriptwriter, so for a full picture of his take on Berlin through the decades, with its inevitable pangs of sadness, but also acceptance and hope, you could follow it up with A Foreign Affair and One, Two, Three.

Edit: Heh! Glad to see someone took one of my recommendations even before I posted it!

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Sadly, I think I'll skip this sale. I already bought a boatload of Criterions this summer, as well as Six Moral Tales a month ago. The shipping costs on Amazon are murderous at the moment, and with Mulholland Drive and Citizen Kane also coming in 4K in Europe, it would be best for me to wait. I might pair something up with The Red Shoes or The Piano in December-January if prices on Amazon remain low.

Instead, I'll recommend you all a bunch of underappreciated titles. If you feel like taking a chance with something you don't hear people talk about that often, all of these are fantastic choices as far as I'm concerned:

[Show spoiler]


The Cremator - One of the absolute masterpieces of the Czech New Wave - vying for the top spot with Marketa Lazarova in my view, although the two are very different - this film is at the same time disturbing, humorous, beautiful and highly intelligent. Fans of Lynch will surely appreciate its style, while those who are not don't need to fear anywhere near the same level of confusion from this poignant pitch-black comedy.

Beyond the Hills - Because I have to promote something from my own country! While most of those who heard about Cristian Mungiu know him for 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (another excellent pick!), this one is just as good. A look at an isolated Orthodox community faced with a troublesome outsider they want to help but don't quite have the means to understand, this film manages to be a scathing indictment of religious mores, while at the same time humanizing those who don't know any better but to rely on them.

Mandabi - More than just the first film in a Sub-Saharan African language and the first color film of Ousmane Sembene, dubbed the father of African cinema, this is quite a brilliant and beautiful tragicomedy, stylistically in step with the French New Wave. Having watched most of the Six Moral Tales a couple of weeks prior, I couldn't help but notice parallels to Rohmer. To be sure, Sembene is not as vague with his dramatic and comedic moments, and the issues he is concerned with are very different, but he stops at times to show you unadulterated glimpses into Dakar and the surrounding villages just like Rohmer would show you glimpses into parts of France, and the characters feel complex and real in spite of the apparent simplicity of the story. I was very impressed with this one, and I'm looking forward to getting Black Girl in the future (I bought the UK Studio Canal edition because it was more convenient, but the Criterion uses the same restoration and also includes the written version of the story).

Dance, Girl, Dance - A film made by one of the few early female filmmakers and future teacher of Francis Ford Coppola, Dorothy Arzner. The site reviewer sells this film woefully short. Far from being predictable, it surprised me with some of the turns it made! There is certainly a lot more depth to it than the glitzy cover would suggest, which might just be the point.

Bitter Rice - A seemingly lesser known Italian neorealist film, it is worth a watch if only for its novel and beautiful setting - the rice fields of Po Valley - and its incredible sex appeal. The Criterion is not really packed with extras, but it also comes at a lower price, so it presents less of a risk. This was the scene that convinced me to check it out: Music+Cinema: Riso amaro/Mondina song- Riz amer- Bitter Rice - YouTube

Girlfriends - Praised by Kubrick himself, this film is sort of like Frances Ha, but from a time before young women searching for their path in life could afford the whimsy. Not that the film is bleak in any way, it's similar in themes and has its own silly moments (70s style), but overall I found it more down to earth and trenchant.

The Story of Temple Drake - One of the infamous "immoral" films made prior to the Hays Code, encouraging the restoration of more such titles should be reason enough for more people to buy it, but the film is certainly worth it on its own, as it features some great cinematography and the wonderful Miriam Hopkins, who has become somewhat of a favorite of mine after seeing her in Lubitsch's Design For Living and Trouble in Paradise.

The Cranes are Flying - A classic of Soviet cinema, I was surprised how few people around here have it. If the stairway scene featured on the film's page on Criterion's site doesn't convince you this is a fantastic pick, I don't know what will...

Canoa, A Shameful Memory - A fantastic Mexican film exploring an episode of genuine, real life horror, this could even be a good - if artsy and thought provoking - pick for Halloween. It starts out documentary-style, with bright colors, wonderful shots and a bitterly sarcastic in-frame narrator, only to devolve into a literal slasher. The fact that the main villain (who only wields a censer and a microphone himself) seems plucked out of a Bond movie makes it seem even more surreal that it's all based on true events.

People on Sunday - A little experimental silent film made during the final years of the Weimar Republic, this is a window into what Berlin used to be before the Nazis came to power and it was later on destroyed. It has therefore a twofold historical value - both as a film, and as a documentary of sorts. Billy Wilder claimed to have worked on it as a scriptwriter, so for a full picture of his take on Berlin through the decades, you could follow it up with A Foreign Affair and One, Two, Three.

Edit: Heh! Glad to see someone took one of my recommendations even before I posted it!

People on Sunday is a great film, can't believe I forgot about that one, as well as a great curiosity as you mentioned.

A pre-code film that is also great is...

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Already own Temple Drake, although I'm more focused on Weimar film at the moment, with a little bit of spread out into Europe.

Have picked up Faust, Sunrise, Tabu, Early Murnau, Blue Angel, Spione, Diary of a Lost Girl, Die Nibelungen, Destiny, Woman in the Moon, Der Golem, and City Girl from Eureka to go with The Spiders from Kino, and already had the aforementioned M and Häxan from Criterion to go with the Australian release of Metropolis and Eureka's Nosferatu and Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.

Those, and Lotte Eisner's Lang biography and The Haunted Screen, as well as From Caligari to Hitler and Noah Isenbarg's Wiemar Cinema.

Been on a bit of a binge, obviously.
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:50 PM   #209209
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People on Sunday is a great film, can't believe I forgot about that one, as well as a great curiosity as you mentioned.

A pre-code film that is also great is...

That's probably in my Weimar wheelhouse too, to an extent.
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I am still happy with my Citizen Kane blu-ray (digibook) - will the Criterion be a worthwhile upgrade?
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Already own Temple Drake, although I'm more focused on Weimar film at the moment, with a little bit of spread out into Europe.

Have picked up Faust, Sunrise, Tabu, Early Murnau, Blue Angel, Spione, Diary of a Lost Girl, Die Nibelungen, Destiny, Woman in the Moon, Der Golem, and City Girl from Eureka to go with The Spiders from Kino, and already had the aforementioned M and Häxan from Criterion to go with the Australian release of Metropolis and Eureka's Nosferatu and Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.

Those, and Lotte Eisner's Lang biography and The Haunted Screen, as well as From Caligari to Hitler and Noah Isenbarg's Wiemar Cinema.

Been on a bit of a binge, obviously.
Oh, ok, gotcha.
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I am still happy with my Citizen Kane blu-ray (digibook) - will the Criterion be a worthwhile upgrade?
You don't appear to have a 4K setup, so unless you're interested in the new extras (which there are plenty of), then I would say no.
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People on Sunday is a great film, can't believe I forgot about that one, as well as a great curiosity as you mentioned.

A pre-code film that is also great is...

Yes, that's one of my favorite films by Lubitsch. I guess it's pretty underrepresented as well, given how old it is. These are great too:



To Be or Not to Be is my other favorite, while Cluny is a great comedy, once again unjustly scuttled by the site reviewer.
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Still waiting on Amazon to price match Salo and Memories of Murder.
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A couple of blind-buys:

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Ashes and Diamonds is great.
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Just got this from B&N. The 4K releases are also included in the sale.

THE CRITERION COLLECTION
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Bling it on! The Barnes & Noble sale starts today! All Criterion Blu-rays and DVDs are 50% off, both online and in stores, through November 29.

Shop from over 1,000 films, including new editions of Once Upon a Time in China: The Complete Films, La strada, Devi, Ratcatcher, and The Incredible Shrinking Man. Plus: our new 4K UHD editions of Mulholland Dr., Citizen Kane, Menace II Society, and Uncut Gems!
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…shouldn’ta jumped the gun.
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Damn...and I already burned by movie collection.
For those that were BBQ before 1am, I happen to know where you can get replacement for 50% off

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What coupon? There is a coupon?
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Seems Amazon won't ship Criterions to Australia, and most of what I want isn't on the Amazon AU Global Store either. Fun.

EDIT: Seems B&N will ship direct, but they don't have The Phantom Carriage. WTF?
I wasn't aware they'd still ship. I thought the last couple sales they had blocked or cancelled most international order.
I know several of the item I looked at last specifically said "item can't ship outside US" but I'm not sure if that does for all movies/all Criterions or if it says that, but doesn't really mean it.


The main Sales page has this label -- hope it is more of a smoke screen
"Save 50% on hundreds of Criterion Blu-rays and DVDs now through November 29th!

We’re sorry, international shipping is currently unavailable for this promotion."

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Two people have already gotten confirmation that 4K is excluded.
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Easier just to wait 11 hours
Shoutout to hariseldon for always being a voice of reason. My least favorite posts are rumors and theories about releases. And when one runs on for pages it only invites more bunk “news”. All anyone had to do was wait a day for the answer.
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Shoutout to hariseldon for always being a voice of reason. My least favorite posts are rumors and theories about releases. And when one runs on for pages it only invites more bunk “news”. All anyone had to do was wait a day for the answer.
Wow. Dude. You’re still going on about this? Where have you been all morning? Did you just wake up? Yes, the 4Ks are included. There was misinformation posted in the deals thread that has since been corrected. Jesus.
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