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Evil666 · 01-08-2022, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jedidarrick

Shaft's getting added to the collection!

Awesome news!!! I can't wait and hope it will be a 4K.

regeyer · 01-08-2022, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Not that it would be completely pointless for Criterion to acquire it simply to release another Blu-ray of it, but I do feel it's enough of a prestige title that if there is a 4K scan/restoration of it available, it is very much deserving of a UHD release. I have no idea what the original BD's source was. If it turns out there's no 4K scan/restoration of it available, then obviously there's little choice for Criterion there. Extras were lacking on Warner's BD too, so either way, it's a good pick-up for Criterion.

I'm not questioning your logic, and I hope it is a 4K/UHD release. But I have seen them release movies on Blu-Ray that were already on Blu-Ray. All About Eve is but one example. I was hoping you had some insider knowledge.

Gacivory · 01-09-2022, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by regeyer

I'm not questioning your logic, and I hope it is a 4K/UHD release. But I have seen them release movies on Blu-Ray that were already on Blu-Ray. All About Eve is but one example. I was hoping you had some insider knowledge.

All About Eve also came out before they went 4K. So this could be a different situation, but we will find out when the announcement gets made by Criterion.

regeyer · 01-09-2022, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

All About Eve also came out before they went 4K. So this could be a different situation, but we will find out when the announcement gets made by Criterion.

True. It may very well be 4K and I hope it is. I was simply pointing out that it might not be and was hoping for some inside information. I guess we'll all know soon enough.

MifuneFan · 01-09-2022, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

All About Eve also came out before they went 4K. So this could be a different situation, but we will find out when the announcement gets made by Criterion.

Yeah, I was about to post that. Plus it's from Fox, so different than a Warner title, who we know Criterion can license 4K rights from.

jcs913 · 01-09-2022, 01:06 AM

Great news about Shaft!! It better be a 4K. The Warner blu is already pretty good.

Gacivory · 01-09-2022, 10:29 PM

If anyone is wanting, A Raisin in the Sun, and doesn’t want to wait for a sale. My Barnes had it on display with a 30% off sticker and the Barnes membership card worked and took an additional 10% off.

ShellOilJunior · 01-10-2022, 12:38 PM

Possible Friday announcements with the 15th being Saturday and MLK day being the 17th?

yoloswegmaster420 · 01-10-2022, 12:43 PM

Generally they will announce the titles on the 14th, if the 15th falls on a Saturday

guizhang · 01-10-2022, 11:50 PM

watched beyond the valley of the dolls last night. love it. fun and full of energy. thematically similar to valley of the dolls, but tonally way different. it was also my first russ meyer movie and sad to find out his presence on blu-ray is almost non-existent outside of this release.

StarDestroyer52 · 01-11-2022, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by guizhang

watched beyond the valley of the dolls last night. love it. fun and full of energy. thematically similar to valley of the dolls, but tonally way different. it was also my first russ meyer movie and sad to find out his presence on blu-ray is almost non-existent outside of this release.

The Russ Meyer estate stubbornly refuses to release his films on BluRay or license them out to any of the boutiques. And Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill! is long OOP.

guizhang · 01-11-2022, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StarDestroyer52

The Russ Meyer estate stubbornly refuses to release his films on BluRay or license them out to any of the boutiques. And Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill! is long OOP.

yeah, that's what i read and it's unfortunate. but beyond the valley of the dolls is the exception? just curious what the reasoning is behind that

Dailyan · 01-11-2022, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by guizhang

but beyond the valley of the dolls is the exception? just curious what the reasoning is behind that

20th Century Fox funded and distributed the film originally (I don't believe Meyer or his estate have any stake/ownership in it).

StarDestroyer52 · 01-11-2022, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dailyan

20th Century Fox funded and distributed the film originally (I don't believe Meyer or his estate have any stake/ownership in it).

That's correct. I also believe I read somewhere that Fox told Criterion if they wanted Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, they had to take Valley of the Dolls, but I'm not 100% certain of that.

huskersports · 01-11-2022, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jkoffman

You and me both, sister. I mailed it in on the first day it was announced. So much for being first in line.

I took a shot and e-mailed Criterion and actually got a response! They DID get my snapped-in-half disc and have my info. The rest: "The first round of replacement CITIZEN KANE Blu-ray 1 discs - including yours - are shipping out now, throughout January.

Please follow up with us if you do not receive your replacement by the end of January and we can investigate further at that time."

ShellOilJunior · 01-11-2022, 03:25 PM

Ethan Hawke and Greg Ruth visited Criterion.

https://twitter.com/GregRuth/status/1480891765733437446

yoloswegmaster420 · 01-11-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Ethan Hawke and Greg Ruth visited Criterion.

https://twitter.com/GregRuth/status/1480891765733437446

The previous tweet made by Greg Ruth before this one says that they were filming something for the Channel.

koberulz · 01-12-2022, 01:29 AM

Is the commentary for Oscar Micheux's Body and Soul that's available on the Criterion Channel not included on the Kino/BFI Blu-rays? Where did it come from?

jgogg · 01-12-2022, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by koberulz

Is the commentary for Oscar Micheux's Body and Soul that's available on the Criterion Channel not included on the Kino/BFI Blu-rays? Where did it come from?

I believe it came from the Criterion Paul Robeson box.

MifuneFan · 01-12-2022, 02:41 PM

So I was thinking about this yesterday. Do you think it's possible Criterion held off on starting 4K until they got their bigger box sets out the way? Stuff like Fellini, Wong Kar-wai, and perhaps even the Bergman set? Put another way, if Criterion started doing 4K releases in say 2019, would the reception to an all Blu-ray release for the Fellini set have been the same? Even when it was announced people were disappointed it wasn't at least partially in 4K, so imagine the reaction if it came out after they actually started releasing some? Perhaps it's too much of a conspiracy theory, but it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to get these big collections out of the way first, before finally transitioning to the format.

I also think it's telling that an individual release of La Strada was released in November, at the onset of their 4K lineup. Without that Fellini set existing, it's very possible Criterion would have done a 4K release instead. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but time will tell if they do the same for any eventual release of Nights of Cabiria (which has a 4K release internationally), and any other major title from these box sets.

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01-09-2022, 01:06 AM	#210386
jcs913 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:576	Great news about Shaft!! It better be a 4K. The Warner blu is already pretty good.

01-09-2022, 10:29 PM	#210387
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1121 Blu-ray collection:5612 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	If anyone is wanting, A Raisin in the Sun, and doesn’t want to wait for a sale. My Barnes had it on display with a 30% off sticker and the Barnes membership card worked and took an additional 10% off.

01-10-2022, 12:38 PM	#210388
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Possible Friday announcements with the 15th being Saturday and MLK day being the 17th?

01-10-2022, 12:43 PM	#210389
yoloswegmaster420 Power Member Member since:May 2015	Generally they will announce the titles on the 14th, if the 15th falls on a Saturday

01-10-2022, 11:50 PM	#210390
guizhang Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 4K collection:84 Blu-ray collection:924 DVD collection:110 Trading Score:1	watched beyond the valley of the dolls last night. love it. fun and full of energy. thematically similar to valley of the dolls, but tonally way different. it was also my first russ meyer movie and sad to find out his presence on blu-ray is almost non-existent outside of this release.

01-11-2022, 03:25 PM	#210396
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Ethan Hawke and Greg Ruth visited Criterion. https://twitter.com/GregRuth/status/1480891765733437446

01-12-2022, 01:29 AM	#210398
koberulz Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:May 2016 Location:Australia 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:2229 DVD collection:532 Trading Score:17	Is the commentary for Oscar Micheux's Body and Soul that's available on the Criterion Channel not included on the Kino/BFI Blu-rays? Where did it come from?

01-12-2022, 02:41 PM	#210400
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	So I was thinking about this yesterday. Do you think it's possible Criterion held off on starting 4K until they got their bigger box sets out the way? Stuff like Fellini, Wong Kar-wai, and perhaps even the Bergman set? Put another way, if Criterion started doing 4K releases in say 2019, would the reception to an all Blu-ray release for the Fellini set have been the same? Even when it was announced people were disappointed it wasn't at least partially in 4K, so imagine the reaction if it came out after they actually started releasing some? Perhaps it's too much of a conspiracy theory, but it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to get these big collections out of the way first, before finally transitioning to the format. I also think it's telling that an individual release of La Strada was released in November, at the onset of their 4K lineup. Without that Fellini set existing, it's very possible Criterion would have done a 4K release instead. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but time will tell if they do the same for any eventual release of Nights of Cabiria (which has a 4K release internationally), and any other major title from these box sets.

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