The Criterion Collection

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by randian

If Ritrovata is involved I will not be happy, they’ve deliberately botched too many releases. I don’t know why anybody uses their services.

Nowhere does it say they are involved.Spellbound wasn't, and Straight Story was supervised by Lynch, so it wouldn't matter who did it since he has final say.

[jedidarrick]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

A new 4K restoration of The Straight Story (1999), which was supervised by Lynch, will be shown at this year's Il Cinema Ritrovato Festival. It was done by Studiocanal, so I expect they will release a 4K in countries where they have rights. Unfortunately the title is locked up with Disney in the US, but perhaps Lynch can work some magic and get Disney to license it to Criterion.

https://festival.ilcinemaritrovato.i...traight-story/

I was expecting Wild at Heart to get a 4K restoration before The Straight Story specifically because of Disney. Glad to be proven wrong, and hopefully we get word about a physical release sooner rather than later.

[mrjohnnyb]

Originally Posted by Scottie

Any news on Criterion picking up any horror type titles?

I'm prematurely thinking about what could be announced for Halloween, but aside from some potential Cronenberg 4K upgrades, I can't think of much.

No news, but the following horrors are the highest on my blu-ray wish list:

Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
Braindead (Peter Jackson, 1992)
and
I Walked with a Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)

[alexrinse]

Originally Posted by randian

If Ritrovata is involved I will not be happy, they’ve deliberately botched too many releases. I don’t know why anybody uses their services.

Ritrovato host a (the best?) film-festival every year - Il Cinema Ritrovato. You can go on a tour of their lab while you're there and give them what for, if you like

They screen their own restorations and plenty of others' as well, not to mention a hefty amount of the programme on celluloid.

[jedidarrick]

Originally Posted by mrjohnnyb

No news, but the following horrors are the highest on my blu-ray wish list:

Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
Braindead (Peter Jackson, 1992)
and
I Walked with a Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)

I can see the Browning and the Tourneur as potential Criterion titles, but I don’t know if they would pony up the dough for Peter Jackson’s early films.

[randian]

Originally Posted by alexrinse

Ritrovato host a (the best?) film-festival every year - Il Cinema Ritrovato. You can go on a tour of their lab while you're there and give them what for, if you like

They screen their own restorations and plenty of others' as well, not to mention a hefty amount of the programme on celluloid.

Very nice, but irrelevant. As long as they think destroying works of art by yellow-washing them as a form of copyright is a good thing they deserve to crash and burn. It's artistic vandalism.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by mrjohnnyb

No news, but the following horrors are the highest on my blu-ray wish list:

I Walked with a Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)

Lewton's own personal favorite of his films, and despite the lurid title, a masterpiece of atmosphere. Baffling that this has not received deluxe treatment. I presume other films got preferential treatment because they had Karloff.

[trobrianders]

Originally Posted by randian

Very nice, but irrelevant. As long as they think destroying works of art by yellow-washing them as a form of copyright is a good thing they deserve to crash and burn. It's artistic vandalism.

Are you saying for a small monthly fee they can send you a code that unlocks the yellow grip?

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

Lewton's own personal favorite of his films, and despite the lurid title, a masterpiece of atmosphere. Baffling that this has not received deluxe treatment. I presume other films got preferential treatment because they had Karloff.

The Ghost Ship didn't, nor did the Cat People films.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by ravenus

The Ghost Ship didn't, nor did the Cat People films.

The Ghost Ship is available on blu from WAC (paired with Bedlam, so again Karloff).

Cat People is available from Criterion and Curse of the Cat People is available from Shout.

I am only overjoyed at the Lewton films that are on blu, I love the films he did with Karloff. Just baffling that Zombie is not.

[kmhofmann]

Originally Posted by randian

Very nice, but irrelevant. As long as they think destroying works of art by yellow-washing them as a form of copyright is a good thing they deserve to crash and burn. It's artistic vandalism.

It's not artistic vandalism and certainly has nothing to do with "copyright". It's them applying a film print LUT to try and match the appearance of a, well, film print of the era.

See an explanation here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=417

Yes, there is contention about the strength or even colorimetric calibration of these LUTs (cf. also Ritrovata/Eclair/others), but in general they're aiming to do the right thing here.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

The Ghost Ship is available on blu from WAC (paired with Bedlam, so again Karloff).

Cat People is available from Criterion and Curse of the Cat People is available from Shout.

I am only overjoyed at the Lewton films that are on blu, I love the films he did with Karloff. Just baffling that Zombie is not.

What I meant that those films don't have Karloff and got treated well on blu (apart from the moth boo-boo on TGS).

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by kmhofmann

It's not artistic vandalism and certainly has nothing to do with "copyright". It's them applying a film print LUT to try and match the appearance of a, well, film print of the era.

See an explanation here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=417

Yes, there is contention about the strength or even colorimetric calibration of these LUTs (cf. also Ritrovata/Eclair/others), but in general they're aiming to do the right thing here.

They have outright said publicly that they color things as yellow as they do specifically so their masters can be easily identified.

[kmhofmann]

Originally Posted by koberulz

They have outright said publicly that they color things as yellow as they do specifically so their masters can be easily identified.

No, they have not.

[HenryHill]

Originally Posted by jedidarrick

I can see the Browning and the Tourneur as potential Criterion titles, but I don’t know if they would pony up the dough for Peter Jackson’s early films.

How could you not buy "I kick ass for the Lord!"? Braindead is a classic, and certainly a lot better than Meet the Feebles.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

How could you not buy "I kick ass for the Lord!"? Braindead is a classic, and certainly a lot better than Meet the Feebles.

Frighteners still his best movie.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by jedidarrick

I can see the Browning and the Tourneur as potential Criterion titles, but I don’t know if they would pony up the dough for Peter Jackson’s early films.

I thought Arrow had the early PJ films?

[jedidarrick]

Originally Posted by Snicket

I thought Arrow had the early PJ films?

If they do, they surely haven't done anything with them.

[CRASHLANDING]

Originally Posted by kmhofmann

It's not artistic vandalism and certainly has nothing to do with "copyright". It's them applying a film print LUT to try and match the appearance of a, well, film print of the era.

See an explanation here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=417

Yes, there is contention about the strength or even colorimetric calibration of these LUTs (cf. also Ritrovata/Eclair/others), but in general they're aiming to do the right thing here.

I found this article online that discusses the question: https://filmmakermagazine.com/117844...-restorations/

It's long and rather technical, but very interesting. Towards the end, the author specifically interviewed the chief colorist at L'Immagine Ritrovata who basically confirmed that he's trying to match the look of release prints from that era - it even notes that he often watches a release print while making color corrections so he can match what is projected. It's a good read and helps give some context to the discussion, even though everyone will still have their own opinions about the various approaches.

[stonesfan129]

Can we get a 4K of Memories Of Murder? Using a transfer that isn't so dark and green? Really wish Criterion would have done their own instead of using the 4K restoration provided by CJ Entertainment.