The Criterion Collection

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

I guess Captain Blood isn't coming this year same with White Dog, The Year of Living Dangerously, Brother From Another Planet, Hud, The Time Masters, Red Beard, Drunken Angel, The Bad Sleep Well, and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore oh well there's always next year. As frustrating as that is I don't mind waiting on them longer. I just hope it's months from now, and not a few years from now. Other than that this year has been pretty freaking sweet, and super exciting release wise.

Maybe December might have a few of these titles in the lineup, but then again it might also be full of 4Ks too like last year. I hope December isn't just full of 4Ks though I hope it's different, and has more than 4 titles.

we still have December, and last year was pretty stacked with great titles.

[DimitriL]

Quite possible we’ll get some bangers - last year we got No Country and Eastern Condors, which were serious cherries on top.

Though honestly, I think January has tended to be a more stacked month than December in recent years. 2025 gave us JoJo Dancer, Winchester 73, The Grifters and The Mother and the Wh*re. 2024 gave us Lone Star, Trainspotting, the Chantal Ackerman box and the Apu 4k box.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by eightslicesofpie

Great to already have early confirmation about Frankenstein being released ~

Definitely excited to check that one out.

[koberulz]

Who's most likely to have Epstein's The Fall of the House of Usher?

[darrellmaclaine]

Re: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, I *don't* think it's with Criterion at the moment. I say this because Criterion's WB licences always apply in the UK as well, and Alice is still on an active licence to the BFI, whose DVD of it is still in print. While there is one precedent for Criterion breaking the terms of a BFI licence (Les Demoiselles de Rochefort, which Criterion UK put out in the Demy box while the BFI still held the licence to a standalone), I feel it's more likely to be a useful clue to what's going on and I wouldn't expect Alice for at least a year or two.

It is a very Criterion-y title I'll admit but I think that UK DVD is a factor in its limbo. It could even still surprise us all and come from WAC.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

Re: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, I *don't* think it's with Criterion at the moment. I say this because Criterion's WB licences always apply in the UK as well, and Alice is still on an active licence to the BFI, whose DVD of it is still in print. While there is one precedent for Criterion breaking the terms of a BFI licence (Les Demoiselles de Rochefort, which Criterion UK put out in the Demy box while the BFI still held the licence to a standalone), I feel it's more likely to be a useful clue to what's going on and I wouldn't expect Alice for at least a year or two.

It is a very Criterion-y title I'll admit but I think that UK DVD is a factor in its limbo. It could even still surprise us all and come from WAC.

This clearly isn't true. Criterion obviously didn't have UK rights to Barry Lyndon, or Citizen Kane when they licensed those titles from Warner.

[koberulz]

Or Eyes Wide Shut, if Criterion is to be believed.

[BoydR12]

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

Re: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, I *don't* think it's with Criterion at the moment. I say this because Criterion's WB licences always apply in the UK as well, and Alice is still on an active licence to the BFI, whose DVD of it is still in print. While there is one precedent for Criterion breaking the terms of a BFI licence (Les Demoiselles de Rochefort, which Criterion UK put out in the Demy box while the BFI still held the licence to a standalone), I feel it's more likely to be a useful clue to what's going on and I wouldn't expect Alice for at least a year or two.

It is a very Criterion-y title I'll admit but I think that UK DVD is a factor in its limbo. It could even still surprise us all and come from WAC.

Also DVD right are separate from Blu-ray which are also separate from 4K

[darrellmaclaine]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

This clearly isn't true. Criterion obviously didn't have UK rights to Barry Lyndon, or Citizen Kane when they licensed those titles from Warner.

There are specific exceptions for AAA titles such as the Kubricks or Citizen Kane, and of course any instance where a title is WB in the US but not in the UK, but it is absolutely true that Criterion's licencing of WB properties includes a UK extension as standard, even when they choose not to put that title out in Region B.

Originally Posted by BoydR12

Also DVD right are separate from Blu-ray which are also separate from 4K

The BFI's Alice deal was actually for Blu-ray rights as well - there was a disagreement over who was paying for the new master (each assumed the other, and the BFI couldn't use charity money to pay for a big studio to upgrade a master) so it never happened. Long story.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

There are specific exceptions for AAA titles such as the Kubricks or Citizen Kane, and of course any instance where a title is WB in the US but not in the UK, but it is absolutely true that Criterion's licencing of WB properties includes a UK extension as standard, even when they choose not to put that title out in Region B.

You specifically said always, now you're backtracking and saying there's "specific exceptions", so it's honestly hard to take anything you say seriously here as it really isn't based on anything besides shaky guesswork.

It's also comical to think that Criterion would turn down a chance to license Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore for the US only because they couldn't also get UK rights the same time. "Oh we can't release this in the UK, guess we won't release it at all, despite the US being our main and much bigger market" Like, do you not see how preposterous that notion sounds?

[darrellmaclaine]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You specifically said always, now you're backtracking and saying there's "specific exceptions", so it's honestly hard to take anything you say seriously here as it really isn't based on anything besides shaky guesswork.

I literally said it was guesswork in my first post where I used the word "think" twice to demonstrate I was thinking aloud? I am not quite sure why this justifies an interrogation as if I have claimed it as an objective fact? Half of this thread is people thinking aloud and showing their workings as to what they do or don't think might be coming soon.

Also, what does anyone have other than "guesswork" that Alice *is* imminent from Criterion? There are still plenty on here convinced that Killers Of The Flower Moon is coming, and it clearly isn't. So what is the defining factor that prevents speculation about Alice one way or the other?

And re: the UK cross-licencing, I don't know what is so hard to understand about there being exemptions to usual practice, that how Kubrick titles or Kane - being obvious and very prominent AAA titles - would be hard to understand as films WBUK would want to retain in its own catalogue. (Same thing seems to be the case for Some Like It Hot from the MGM library, and even pre-Disney Fox wouldn't let Criterion UK have Brazil.) Usually the cross-border licencing with WB stuff is so taken for granted that the UK arm recently jumped the gun by assuming Sorcerer was already secured when it turned out to be more complicated.

In short, calm the flip down.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

I literally said it was guesswork in my first post where I used the word "think" twice to demonstrate I was thinking aloud? I am not quite sure why this justifies an interrogation as if I have claimed it as an objective fact? Half of this thread is people thinking aloud and showing their workings as to what they do or don't think might be coming soon.

Also, what does anyone have other than "guesswork" that Alice *is* imminent from Criterion? There are still plenty on here convinced that Killers Of The Flower Moon is coming, and it clearly isn't. So what is the defining factor that prevents speculation about Alice one way or the other?

And re: the UK cross-licencing, I don't know what is so hard to understand about there being exemptions to usual practice, that how Kubrick titles or Kane - being obvious and very prominent AAA titles - would be hard to understand as films WBUK would want to retain in its own catalogue. (Same thing seems to be the case for Some Like It Hot from the MGM library, and even pre-Disney Fox wouldn't let Criterion UK have Brazil.) Usually the cross-border licencing with WB stuff is so taken for granted that the UK arm recently jumped the gun by assuming Sorcerer was already secured when it turned out to be more complicated.

In short, calm the flip down.

It's the fact that you're spewing bullshit like this and passing it off as fact:

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

I say this because Criterion's WB licences always apply in the UK as well

Are you now claiming that statement above is complete guesswork too, or are were you making a factual statement there? Since your entire post hinges on that one sentence, this is clearly important to know.

And then when I pointed out an obvious contradiction with that statement, you completely backtracked and wrote this:

Originally Posted by darrellmaclaine

There are specific exceptions for AAA titles such as the Kubricks or Citizen Kane, .

The fact is, I see you post misinformation on this forum more than most, and it gets rather tiring to see you making these repeated nonsense claims without people calling them out. I clearly fact-checked you, and you just moved the goalposts rather than any sort of acknowledgement of the error of your original statement.

I'm perfectly calm btw.

[Darth Marcus]

[Show spoiler]

[darrellmaclaine]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

It's the fact that you're spewing bullshit like this and passing it off as fact:

Are you now claiming that statement above is complete guesswork too, or are were you making a factual statement there? Since your entire post hinges on that one sentence, this is clearly important to know.

And then when I pointed out an obvious contradiction with that statement, you completely backtracked and wrote this:

The fact is, I see you post misinformation on this forum more than most, and it gets rather tiring to see you making these repeated nonsense claims without people calling them out. I clearly fact-checked you, and you just moved the goalposts rather than any sort of acknowledgement of the error of your original statement.

I'm perfectly calm btw.

I wouldn't stop there. I would take this to the police, the courts, the whole world's press. The people MUST know your detailed deconstruction of some speculation on a forum. The stakes are insurmountable.

And when you've done all that you can put your trousers back on.

[TV2693]

Originally Posted by eightslicesofpie

Great to already have early confirmation about Frankenstein being released ~

I was thinking the same thing until I realized we don't even know if its good yet.

[eightslicesofpie]

Originally Posted by TV2693

I was thinking the same thing until I realized we don't even know if its good yet.

That's true, but even if I end up disliking it, there are several streaming movies/shows that I think suck that got disc releases I'm still happy for so their fans can get them and they don't languish forever on a server only

[TV2693]

Originally Posted by eightslicesofpie

That's true, but even if I end up disliking it, there are several streaming movies/shows that I think suck that got disc releases I'm still happy for so their fans can get them and they don't languish forever on a server only

I hope, however unlikely, Netflix authorizes Fincher's 'The Killer' on disc. Some of the best work visually he's done in years.

Boy would that look great in 4K.

[TV2693]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You specifically said always, now you're backtracking and saying there's "specific exceptions", so it's honestly hard to take anything you say seriously here as it really isn't based on anything besides shaky guesswork.

It's also comical to think that Criterion would turn down a chance to license Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore for the US only because they couldn't also get UK rights the same time. "Oh we can't release this in the UK, guess we won't release it at all, despite the US being our main and much bigger market" Like, do you not see how preposterous that notion sounds?

Is Criterion doing 'Deliverance'?

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

I think at the end of the day it's perfectly fine to say a certain slate has no interest to someone. There is nothing wrong with it.

The problem is when you say something and members react as if you insulted one of their family members. Everyone has different tastes and art is pretty subjective. My opinion is that the November 2025 isn't a great one, but that's from the perspective of my interests.

I will give Criterion their due credit with the revival of the Eclipse line, as there is a lot of potential there. Still, October was a let down in terms of Criterion releases and November was another let down.

Still, we are at a point where there are simply too many labels and too many movies coming out, so when a label has a month where nothing interests me, it's almost at the point where it's a relief because it's becoming really hard to keep up.

There are so many labels doing great work. There is always something great coming, as you said.

[Querelle]

Really hope Four Nights of a Dreamer gets a release at some point. Apparently came out not that long ago from Potemkine in France but without English subs; I would import it otherwise. I was reminded recently that Radiance was outbid for licensing the film, but I'm not sure who was successful. Has it been confirmed Criterion has the rights?