The Criterion Collection

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

But, but, but, but... she has a film degree!

Then she needs to take it back and learn again.

She prob learned about Kurosawa, Bergman, Chaplin, Spielberg, Breathless, 400 Blows, Citizen Kane, etc.

This is what I call essential for film history-

Georges Méliès
René Clair (Under the Roofs of Paris)
Aleksandr Dovzhenko (Arsenal)
Sergei Eisenstein
Roberto Rossellini (Germany Year Zero)
Nicholas Ray
Jean-Luc Godard (Les Carabiniers, La Chinoise, Histoire(s) du cinéma)
Jean Renoir
Kenji Mizoguchi

Then you can do the others, like D.W. Griffith, John Ford, Fritz Lang, Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau, Otto Preminger, John Cassavetes.

This isn't a list of favs. This is a list of films and filmmakers that made film an artform, not just made "cool" movies.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I know quite a few people with degrees and most of them don't know their left foot from the right

Yep. My brother was telling me about some girl he knew who got a film degree from NYU. She was practically only interested in film circa 2000 to present.

[Miadaskate]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Yep. My brother was telling me about some girl he knew who got a film degree from NYU. She was practically only interested in film circa 2000 to present.

What's wrong with that?

Not everyone enjoys the classics.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by Miadaskate

What's wrong with that?

Not everyone enjoys the classics.

The hope would be that she loves pretty much all cinema (or just has an open minded approach) if she went so far as to get a film degree.

But from my experiences in school, this is far too optimistic of an outlook.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by Miadaskate

What's wrong with that?

Not everyone enjoys the classics.

oh lord.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by keldons

The hope would be that she loves pretty much all cinema (or just has an open minded approach) if she went so far as to get a film degree.

But from my experiences in school, this is far too optimistic of an outlook.

I've taken film classes. I've seen students leave early watching Raging Bull because the class time didn't adequately cover the film's length. I've been in a class where I was the only one that laughed during Dr. Strangelove.

I've been in classes where we were told to present a clip to the class to cover a topic and a student brings in "Dare Devil". (Thankfully, the whole class laughed at him).

[Beta Man]

And who is to say that one can't focus on aspects of cinema that AREN'T related to the history of cinema???

I'm going back to school to prove the Caine-Hackman theory

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by Miadaskate

What's wrong with that?

Not everyone enjoys the classics.

Those films borrow plenty from films of 1900's-1990's. Heck it's fair enough you could call Battleship Potemkin basically the inspiration of most American films since The Wild Bunch came out in 1969. I keep thinking of Potemkin everytime I watch a music video-ish movie.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by Miadaskate

What's wrong with that?

Not everyone enjoys the classics.

Well, it's like aspiring to become a writer and having no interest in Joyce, Proust, Hemingway, Fitzgerald, etc.

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

It looks like Frank Miller's "Sin City," does it not?

CC

Which looks alot like film noir films.

[Miadaskate]

Originally Posted by keldons

The hope would be that she loves pretty much all cinema (or just has an open minded approach) if she went so far as to get a film degree.

But from my experiences in school, this is far too optimistic of an outlook.

I understand where you're coming from. I have a basic degree, but took an introduction to american cinema class. This class basically sparked my interests into older films.

Originally Posted by retablo

oh lord.

I wasn't going to say anything, but after seeing your rude response which doesn't even reflect my own admiration of film in general, (I was just trying to point out that not everyone HAS to admire classic film) it just further proves what I was going to say earlier. Here goes :

The video the girl posted on Youtube is retarded, especially the way she acted. I will give you that, but she must read this thread because she is 100% right about the whole pretentious thing. That's how I feel. I'm sorry if I offend, but I just get this vibe that Criterion addicts think they are better than everyone. It's one thing to enjoy the history of cinema, but don't be a snob about it. What I'm trying to say is, just because these films are "classic" (and there is a lot of room for argument on what is considered classic here) or made by Criterion, doesn't make it a good film, and it doesn't make it better than any non-Criterion film. And it certainly doesn't make you a better person for owning all of them either. At the end of the day, they're mostly just expensive movies that people have never heard of until Criterion came along. Sorry but I needed to vent.

Thank you and have a good day.

[P@t_Mtl]

I have notice that a good portion of the young generation (don't jump on me I am not saying they are all like that) seem to have a very hard time watching older type of movies. Some of it may be that they have grown up at a time of very quick fast cut where everything move's fast in a none stop movement. Movies, music, video game, even television. I can see very well how they would have a hard time with older releases. I was watching Oyū-sama last night from director Kenji Mizoguchi and I just kept wondering how this young MTC generation would handle a movie like that. Long scenes where the camera is not moving, no music to bring up the drama...everything is left to the story, the actors and the cinematography. Most of them would probably not manage to make it into the first 30 minutes.

To be fair however, I also know quite older people who could not either. It might be just the times we are in and one's personality?

[Cocophone]

Per her youtube comment she says the video was done "jokingly"

We filmed this as a joke. A bit of humor. Please take it that way.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Miadaskate

At the end of the day, they're mostly just expensive movies that people have never heard of until Criterion came along.

HA HA HA HA HA! No one has never heard of Breathless because the world didn't start until I was born. That is what this sentence tells me.

which doesn't even reflect my own admiration of film in general

What is your film taste then, because your collection doesn't have me thinking your one for a good Soviet propaganda silent by Aleksandr Dovzhenko.

Sorry but I needed to vent.

You needed to vent (talk crap) in a Criterion thread, though do you even own any? Then what are you doing here, bashing or actually talking about the films?

[BasicGreatGuy]

Criterion hint at an upcoming release.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...820564&theater

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by BasicGreatGuy

Criterion hint at an upcoming release.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...820564&theater

A Columba Domínguez film.

[Beta Man]

What's the deal with all of the people saying "The Seventh Seal" ??? I don't have Facebook, but I would assume those who "Follow" Criterion on Facebook would have a little bit of knowledge about them

[SpiderBaby]

http://mubi.com/films/27825

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

What's the deal with all of the people saying "The Seventh Seal" ??? I don't have Facebook, but I would assume those who "Follow" Criterion on Facebook would have a little bit of knowledge about them

I chalk that up to those who have never seen said film making such a comment?

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

http://mubi.com/films/27825

That has been mentioned. Criterion hasn't replied on that yet. I have never heard of the film.