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Yankees0222 · 01-13-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I think because of the special camera used on Part 2? I think but yeah they are different aspect ratios. I am sure it is discussed in the extras I would think.

I am gonna try to watch CHE this weekend, or at least Part I

I didn't know that they used a different camera for part 2. I thought they used the RedOne camera for both parts.

Volume11 · 01-13-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222

I didn't know that they used a different camera for part 2. I thought they used the RedOne camera for both parts.

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Kevtronn · 01-13-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx

That's because Criterion has a very secretive selection process for determining who to ship out cases to first. A lot of things have to be taken into consideration, I think, including but not limited to the following...

1) how many Criterion discs a person owns (I hope everyone remembered to list that in your original order)

2) how many OPENED & WATCHED Criterions a person owns

3) how many complaints about not receiving the cases a person has made on message boards across the internet

4) miscellaneous purchases directly from the Criterion store... t-shirts, posters, gift cards, etc.

The list goes on... but, as you can see it's a much more complicated process than any of us could've thought.

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PowellPressburger · 01-13-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222

I didn't know that they used a different camera for part 2. I thought they used the RedOne camera for both parts.

I am sure I am wrong on that, but it is odd they switched ratios.

Xorp · 01-13-2010, 06:21 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_%28...al_photography

reallyagi · 01-13-2010, 06:24 PM

"Soderbergh shot Part 2 in a conventional aspect ratio, as opposed to the widescreen format of the first. With Che's capture, his world shrinks, and he's depicted more in isolated close-up." - excerpt from his review, Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune.

I guess both parts had a different feel and tone, so Soderbergh accommodated the appropriate aspect ratios to each part.

ChadFL · 01-13-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobsever

Weird, you just got your cases, which means they got a shipment in, yet I just received this email today.

So they were out of cases, got a shipment in, sent you yours, then send me an email saying they are out and expecting some in two MORE weeks?

You'd think after running out so many times, they'd stock up and order a lot of replacement cases...

Their whole replacement cases process makes no sense at all. This is one of the most inefficient processes I've ever seen from a business. Ya, I'll probably take heat for that but I'll bet once people get past their love of all things Criterion they'll know it's true.

Yankees0222 · 01-13-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by reallyagi

"Soderbergh shot Part 2 in a conventional aspect ratio, as opposed to the widescreen format of the first. With Che's capture, his world shrinks, and he's depicted more in isolated close-up." - excerpt from his review, Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune.

I guess both parts had a different feel and tone, so Soderbergh accommodated the appropriate aspect ratios to each part.

So there IS an artistic explanation for the aspect ratio change. Interesting.....

rezpekt · 01-13-2010, 06:31 PM

New hint from fresh newsletter:

reallyagi · 01-13-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rezpekt

New hint from fresh newsletter:

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse

jboss · 01-13-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I think because of the special camera used on Part 2? I think but yeah they are different aspect ratios. I am sure it is discussed in the extras I would think.

I am gonna try to watch CHE this weekend, or at least Part I

They talked about it a little bit in the documentary on this disc about the Red camera. They wanted a different look for each of the films. Part 1 is shot with an anamorphic lens, which in addition to setting the AR to 2.39:1 also made things look softer and more film-like. Part 2 is in 1.78:1 and was shot without an anamorphic lens and is therefore a bit sharper, in some cases "too sharp" for Soderburgh's preference.

There were artistic reasons for this that were at least partially touched on in the Red special feature - he mentioned in Part 1 he didn't do any closeups on Che on purpose (except in the "interview" footage).

I haven't seen any more of the making of footage, as I don't want to spoil the films before I see them, but I'm sure they go more in depth.

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Originally Posted by reallyagi

"Soderbergh shot Part 2 in a conventional aspect ratio, as opposed to the widescreen format of the first. With Che's capture, his world shrinks, and he's depicted more in isolated close-up." - excerpt from his review, Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune.

I guess both parts had a different feel and tone, so Soderbergh accommodated the appropriate aspect ratios to each part.

I suppose that's what I was looking for.

PowellPressburger · 01-13-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by reallyagi

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse

Nice! haha that would be hilarious!

BlackDevil · 01-13-2010, 06:49 PM

Wait Best Buy is selling Che early?!

horseflesh · 01-13-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Nice! haha that would be hilarious!

And also shi-

ChadFL · 01-13-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rezpekt

New hint from fresh newsletter:

Sunshine? I love that film.

stobbart · 01-13-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kndy

As for "Flesh for Frankenstein" or "Blood for Dracula", should of bought them back then.

Well I own them, but didnt buy them "back then". I paid a premium for them while they were OOP.

However, upscaled on the ps3 they look wonderful, and just seeing them in my CC is great.

A blu transfer would only just polish them up a bit, but considering the sources it most likly wont be such a dramatic difference as some other old releases

ChadFL · 01-13-2010, 06:58 PM

Could this be L'Eclisse?

captveg · 01-13-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by reallyagi

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse

LOL!

Oshima Eclipse set is the obvious answer.

jamal2 · 01-13-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by captveg

LOL!

Oshima Eclipse set is the obvious answer.

Yep. O shi = Oshima.

There's no blue in the pic, so I'm assuming DVD only.

captveg · 01-13-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jamal2

Yep. O shi = Oshima.

There's no blue in the pic, so I'm assuming DVD only.

It's an Eclipse set, so yeah, no Blu.

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01-13-2010, 06:21 PM	#4765
Xorp Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Trading Score:28	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_%28...al_photography

01-13-2010, 06:24 PM	#4766
reallyagi Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:182 Trading Score:5	"Soderbergh shot Part 2 in a conventional aspect ratio, as opposed to the widescreen format of the first. With Che's capture, his world shrinks, and he's depicted more in isolated close-up." - excerpt from his review, Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune. I guess both parts had a different feel and tone, so Soderbergh accommodated the appropriate aspect ratios to each part.

01-13-2010, 06:31 PM	#4769
rezpekt Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Estonia 4K collection:450 Blu-ray collection:1889 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	New hint from fresh newsletter:

01-13-2010, 06:49 PM	#4773
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