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Hawkguy · 08-03-2012, 06:39 PM

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More lists (and I don't really have an opinion on Tarr's films Darkcritic, like his list though):

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Thanks for the rest--really interesting what choices there are after those few mentioned (and I was surprised --in a good way-- that Farhadi was one of the filmmakers).

Darkcritic · 08-03-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

More lists (and I don't really have an opinion on Tarr's films Darkcritic, like his list though)

Wow, the other link didn't publish the best lists! Del Toro, Tarr, Dardennes, Joon-Ho and Weerasethakul are easily the best ones. Especially Tarr

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SlickDamian · 08-03-2012, 07:03 PM

Interesting choices from most of the filmmakers!

And did I hear on Roger Ebert's Twitter that Vertigo has dethroned Citizen Kane at number one? That's surprising.

octagon · 08-03-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian

Interesting choices from most of the filmmakers!

And did I hear on Roger Ebert's Twitter that Vertigo has dethroned Citizen Kane at number one? That's surprising.

Governor Dewey had a bad night too.

Banned User · 08-03-2012, 07:12 PM

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I expected His Girl Friday and Rolling Thunder. He also seems to talk down "arthouse" films these days in interviews (kind of being a hypocrite as he shows influences/homages and takes crap from those films in his). Funny though, I like his list better than the others. He should have just gave his top 10 "exploitation" films that he gave GrindhouseDatabase's website.

Maybe he doesn't want his fans seeing where he stole a lot of his ideas from.

octagon · 08-03-2012, 07:19 PM

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That is a decent price...but I've got the UK version on preorder (and owning the digi of NXNW made that decision even easier). For those purchasing this set, which version at you opting for and what is your reason (price is a valid reason)?

I'm not really crazy about the way either set is packaged but I'm sort of leaning toward the more compact US. Given that I already have NbN and Psycho and I'm at best ambivelant toward a handful of the others I'm going to be pretty price sensitive on this one.

I might even wait for individual releases.

Or I'll crack immediately. It could go that way too.

starman15317 · 08-03-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad1963

Because that was back when New Line/Fine Line were Time Warner owned but not under Warner Bros umbrella. A few years back Time Warner folded New Line into Warner Bros. Before then WHV distributed the films but it was a different management and operation for New Line. That is why Criterion has Short Cuts and My Own Pvt Idaho also. These agreements could actually go back to even before Time Warner owned New Line when it was owned by Turner.

So does this mean that Criterion could release Hedwig and the Angry Inch if they wanted?

octagon · 08-03-2012, 07:44 PM

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So does this mean that Criterion could release Hedwig and the Angry Inch if they wanted?

No, he's saying that even though they were owned by the same parent corportaion New Line and Warner Bros used to be separate studios with separate management and each made their own licensing and distribution deals.

That's no longer the case. New Line is now a part of Warner Bros and Warner Bros management calls the shots.

Which - for the time being at least - means no licensing deals.

(It's possible there are still some pre-acquistion New Line deals in effect but I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope on that)

Banned User · 08-03-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

I'm not really crazy about the way either set is packaged but I'm sort of leaning toward the more compact US. Given that I already have NbN and Psycho and I'm at best ambivelant toward a handful of the others I'm going to be pretty price sensitive on this one.

I might even wait for individual releases.

Or I'll crack immediately. It could go that way too.

You will crack I have no doubt in my mind on the matter. Maybe you might get through a few days. Hell you might even last a week, but before that week is out sweat will start to bead down your forehead and you will develop a twitch. Every time you visit this website and see the boxset you will have muscle spasms and be in great pain and agony! Eventually you will break down and buy the set to end your suffering!!!

Not that that has ever happened to me or anything. I'm just saying.

P@t_Mtl · 08-03-2012, 07:55 PM

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Governor Dewey had a bad night too.

that's funny!

P@t_Mtl · 08-03-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Banned User

Maybe he doesn't want his fans seeing where he stole a lot of his ideas from.

That might well be. His fans do hold him in very high regard, they would be crush to know that he's a stealer of ideas

EddieLarkin · 08-03-2012, 08:04 PM

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Agree. The perceived PQ difference between the Criterion and Studio Canal versions is grossly overstated. I wonder how many of the Criterion fanatics would accurately identify the CC and SC versions in a blind viewing test.

I'm not suggesting that the SC version isn't a fine disc, but it's pretty simple to identify which is which when they are side by side:

http://postimage.org/image/mzum1y0nj/full/

Grainy on one, smooth on the other

jaredc · 08-03-2012, 08:08 PM

I'm really getting into Jean-Pierre Melville of late. I loved Le Cercle Rouge and Army of Shadows. I even got Le Samourai on DVD and watched it. They were all great, if a little indulgent overall.

retablo · 08-03-2012, 08:10 PM

Cool list of "10 Bests"... i can accept pretty much any of those except "The Goonies" and "Fletch"... those people shouldn't be allowed to vote for anything.

starman15317 · 08-03-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

No, he's saying that even though they were owned by the same parent corportaion New Line and Warner Bros used to be separate studios with separate management and each made their own licensing and distribution deals.

That's no longer the case. New Line is now a part of Warner Bros and Warner Bros management calls the shots.

Which - for the time being at least - means no licensing deals.

(It's possible there are still some pre-acquistion New Line deals in effect but I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope on that)

Oh, I see. That would have to mean that the DVDs for Hoop Dreams, Short Cuts and My Own Private Idaho are OOP though and that we shouldn't expect a Criterion Blu-Ray of these titles soon, right? (even though Hoop Dreams isn't exactly a film meant for HD) I thought those DVDs were still in print.

octagon · 08-03-2012, 08:19 PM

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Maybe he doesn't want his fans seeing where he stole a lot of his ideas from.

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That might well be. His fans do hold him in very high regard, they would be crush to know that he's a stealer of ideas

I know you guys are half-kidding but that's not really a fair rap on Tarantino.

He's always been pretty upfront about the fact that he remakes/recasts/reinvents things that came before. Not only that, he's pretty good at it.

It's one thing to do a spoof or knock-off of revenge flicks or low-budget martial arts movies. It's another thing entirely to capture the spirit and the fun of those films in an interesting shell of your own making.

octagon · 08-03-2012, 08:25 PM

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No matter the source of the list Sunrise deserves to be on it IMO.

I've had that for a while and watched it all the way through for the first time last night. Then I watched the outtakes with commentary and then I watched the entire film again with commentary.

I almost never get through an entire commentary let alone right after watching the entire film.

The funny part is I didn't have any strong, visceral 'omg this is awesome' reactions but it obviously grabbed me on some level.

starman15317 · 08-03-2012, 08:26 PM

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I know you guys are half-kidding but that's not really a fair rap on Tarantino.

He's always been pretty upfront about the fact that he remakes/recasts/reinvents things that came before. Not only that, he's pretty good at it.

It's one thing to do a spoof or knock-off of revenge flicks or low-budget martial arts movies. It's another thing entirely to capture the spirit and the fun of those films in an interesting shell of your own making.

Agreed.

surfdude12 · 08-03-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian

Interesting choices from most of the filmmakers!

And did I hear on Roger Ebert's Twitter that Vertigo has dethroned Citizen Kane at number one? That's surprising.

Ebert's list:

Aguirre, Wrath of God (Herzog)
Apocalypse Now (Coppola)
Citizen Kane (Welles)
La Dolce Vita (Fellini)
The General (Keaton)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)
Tokyo Story (Ozu)
The Tree of Life (Malick)
Vertigo (Hitchcock)

octagon · 08-03-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Riddler The Slag

A film I would love to see get a full Criterion treatment for would be the 1953 version of War of the Worlds. It was given a full bare-bones release on DVD by Paramount and if ever there was a film screaming for a re-master and such this would be a prime candidate.

Thoughts?

Well, it's at least as good a whacky-C candidate as The Blob (and like The Blob, I would buy it in a second...or a second after the B&N sale went live, anyway).

That said, if it were up to me I'd probably prefer something like that be released by Paramount directly or maybe Olive.

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Originally Posted by jaredc

I'm really getting into Jean-Pierre Melville of late. I loved Le Cercle Rouge and Army of Shadows. I even got Le Samourai on DVD and watched it. They were all great, if a little indulgent overall.

Don't overlook Leon Morin, Priest. It's a bit different from his other stuff but it's extremely good.

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Originally Posted by starman15317

Oh, I see. That would have to mean that the DVDs for Hoop Dreams, Short Cuts and My Own Private Idaho are OOP though and that we shouldn't expect a Criterion Blu-Ray of these titles soon, right? (even though Hoop Dreams isn't exactly a film meant for HD) I thought those DVDs were still in print.

Out of my depth. I don't know when previous deals were signed, how long they run, if they can be extended, whether a dvd deal automatically means they can issue an upgrade, etc, etc, etc.

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08-03-2012, 07:03 PM	#51963
SlickDamian Expert Member Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Canada 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:642 DVD collection:160	Interesting choices from most of the filmmakers! And did I hear on Roger Ebert's Twitter that Vertigo has dethroned Citizen Kane at number one? That's surprising.

08-03-2012, 08:08 PM	#51973
jaredc Member Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:252	I'm really getting into Jean-Pierre Melville of late. I loved Le Cercle Rouge and Army of Shadows. I even got Le Samourai on DVD and watched it. They were all great, if a little indulgent overall.

08-03-2012, 08:10 PM	#51974
retablo Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hollywood Blu-ray collection:1307 Trading Score:1	Cool list of "10 Bests"... i can accept pretty much any of those except "The Goonies" and "Fletch"... those people shouldn't be allowed to vote for anything.

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