The Criterion Collection

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by repulsed

no, it's the Bluray
surprised it was in a condition worth purchasing
those bins destroy cases but i get lucky quite often

Thanks for the heads up.. I hate Wal-Mart, but there are always exceptions.

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

I too have started weeding down my collection some, generally movies that I know i'll never watch again, or that I just don't care about... and ripping cds that I know are just going to go on my iPod for workouts or car trips. Before I bought a house and then got marrried I was the guy who could drop a hundred or so a week on cds, dvds, and blu-rays because they looked good, or i just had the cash to do so. No I'm older and have different priorities. I try to only buy what I really want, and things I know i'll enjoy over and over. Not a movie snob, though I can be at times (or so my wife says), but I do try to be more discerning in my purchases. My Criterion obsession started with Chasing Amy. Now I love their releases, and want to buy more, which makes me need more room... vicious cycle.

So yeah, with age I've started to change and so has my "must upgrade" attitude. I do what I can when I can.. and frankly, my 42" plasma plays my blu-rays well and I am happy with what I have.

Oh wow, Im in the same boat too - somewhat downgrading some titles that really arent that special to me. I also used DVDs to fund blu rays, but lately Ive been going through a lot of movies to see if they are worth keeping and if not, trade the movie in for something Id really like to have. Im mostly into horror and sci fi - so I have been going through some of the older classics (gangster flicks and some melodramas).
I also bought an HD TV - 40" after I learned the other one I had was obsolete ( 720) and too small to enjoy HD. I dont want to buy anymore TVs for a long time !!

[lordmorpheus72]

Originally Posted by dsman71

Oh wow, Im in the same boat too - somewhat downgrading some titles that really arent that special to me. I also used DVDs to fund blu rays, but lately Ive been going through a lot of movies to see if they are worth keeping and if not, trade the movie in for something Id really like to have. Im mostly into horror and sci fi - so I have been going through some of the older classics (gangster flicks and some melodramas).
I also bought an HD TV - 40" after I learned the other one I had was obsolete ( 720) and too small to enjoy HD. I dont want to buy anymore TVs for a long time !!

yeah, my tv is fine for the next few years I hope. Would a bigger one be nice? yeah, but i only sit 6 0r 7 feet away, I don't need a 50" for that.

And sorry to all for the continued derailment of the thread! but hey, it's all related right, I watch my Criterion on wmy tv and that's what I'm buying right now.

btw, dsman71, huge Godzilla fan here!

[14728]

Imagine if criterion started releasing albums. That would be one of the best days of my life
I would like to see:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (the Beatles)
Some Girls (The Rolling Stones
Queen II (Queen)
Highway 61 Revisited (Bob Dylan)
Abbey Road (The Beatles)

[starman15317]

If Criterion released albums, Pop by U2 would be at the top of my list.

Anyways, this is off topic, but I've noticed that the Before Sunrise/Sunset double feature DVD is $5 on Amazon and Wal-Mart.com. Has anyone seen this in Wal-Mart stores?

[14728]

Originally Posted by starman15317

If Criterion released albums, Pop by U2 would be at the top of my list.

I was just listening to the Joshua Tree. That would be a great release, too.

[starman15317]

Originally Posted by 14728

I was just listening to the Joshua Tree. That would be a great release, too.

It'd be hard to improve on the 20th anniversary remastered box set, but I'm sure they would.

[14728]

Originally Posted by starman15317

It'd be hard to improve on the 20th anniversary remastered box set, but I'm sure they would.

I'm just getting into U2, so all I Have is an Under a Blood Red Sky CD from 1983, and a Case-less Joshua Tree from 1987. I think I'll get the Deluxe Edition box set with their first 3 studio albums (Boy, October, and War)

[starman15317]

Originally Posted by 14728

I'm just getting into U2, so all I Have is an Under a Blood Red Sky CD from 1983, and a Case-less Joshua Tree from 1987. I think I'll get the Deluxe Edition box set with their first 3 studio albums (Boy, October, and War)

Ah, I have that set. If you're not too concerned with buying special editions, you can find the basic CD versions of their albums for cheap prices online and in music stores. Seriously, it actually breaks my heart seeing a bunch of U2 CDs for $1 in stores. Achtung Baby is my favorite U2 album.

[Abdrewes]

Considering Traffic is part of the collection, I just wanted to let you guys know that I created a thread on the Top 10 "hyperlink" films.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...09#post8000609

[14728]

Originally Posted by starman15317

Ah, I have that set. If you're not too concerned with buying special editions, you can find the basic CD versions of their albums for cheap prices online and in music stores. Seriously, it actually breaks my heart seeing a bunch of U2 CDs for $1 in stores. Achtung Baby is my favorite U2 album.

Well I like all the extra goodies, so I'll pick up the box set soon.
Also, seeing that Achtung Baby is your favorite, do you have the Uber edition of the album? I would pick it up, but it's about $500.00

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by 14728

Imagine if criterion started releasing albums. That would be one of the best days of my life
I would like to see:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (the Beatles)
Some Girls (The Rolling Stones
Queen II (Queen)
Highway 61 Revisited (Bob Dylan)
Abbey Road (The Beatles)

Sgt. Pepper would most likely be at the top of their list, though for the Stones I'd go with Out of Their Heads, and for Queen, A Night at the Opera.

Criterion being Criterion, they'd also dip into other genres, so I think two other top picks would be Dave Brubeck's Time Out and Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall.

Other pop music choices...let's see...Cream's Wheels of Fire, Led Zeppelin's first album, The Doors' first album, Jethro Tull's Aqualung, The Pogues' If I Should Fall from Grace with God, Simon & Garfunkel's Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme, Santana's first album, The Eagles' Hotel California, Linda Ronstadt's Heart Like a Wheel, Kate Bush's Hounds of Love, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, The Who's Tommy, Warren Zevon's Excitable Boy, and far too many others to list.

[14728]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Sgt. Pepper would most likely be at the top of their list, though for the Stones I'd go with Out of Their Heads, and for Queen, A Night at the Opera.

Criterion being Criterion, they'd also dip into other genres, so I think two other top picks would be Dave Brubeck's Time Out and Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall.

Other pop music choices...let's see...Cream's Wheels of Fire, Led Zeppelin's first album, The Doors' first album, Jethro Tull's Aqualung, The Pogues' If I Should Fall from Grace with God, Simon & Garfunkel's Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme, Santana's first album, The Eagles' Hotel California, Linda Ronstadt's Heart Like a Wheel, Kate Bush's Hounds of Love, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, The Who's Tommy, Warren Zevon's Excitable Boy, and far too many others to list.

I've never listened to Out of our Heads, and I would've said A Night at the Opera, but that would be too obvious.
Also, I think Tusk is a Very underrated album. Have it on vinyl

[starman15317]

Originally Posted by 14728

Well I like all the extra goodies, so I'll pick up the box set soon.
Also, seeing that Achtung Baby is your favorite, do you have the Uber edition of the album? I would pick it up, but it's about $500.00

I have the 2nd biggest box set, the "Super Deluxe" or whatever the hell it's called. It was a Christmas present and cost about $150. Even I don't want to drop the cash on the Uber set (though those replica Fly sunglasses would be nice to have.)

[starman15317]

Originally Posted by sc1957

Well, then people would complain every month because there's no Elvis Costello.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by MattvonSyborg

With the music analogy, it's also interesting to note that no digital format with better quality than cd has ever taken off - they've been stuck on the level of success Blu Ray/HD-DVD had the first years. Strictly for enthusiasts. That segment of the market uses cd, vinyl or flac files now, while the average consumer doesn't need better quality than mp3s or streaming. And on that note, I definitely think that Netflix streaming, for example, has much better quality than the average consumer needs. I'd guess that the "cap" is around 720p, but who knows.

I think it's interesting that Criterion made the move to Dual Format. I wonder how long it'll be before DVD truly is dead.

I stopped buying compact discs (CDs) about 15 years ago. Well, at least I stopped buying them on a regular basis about 15 years ago. I still occasionally might purchase new CDs (or used ones) if they are remastered versions of an album that I love (pending on the reviews I read), but mostly today's remasterings are all about "loudness" and the loudness wars are not my thing. Dynamic range is destroyed and all you have is distortion with this extreme compression. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

CDs released in the 1990s and prior don't suffer from this terrible CD mastering phenomenon. There are some bands that obviously self-release their own music and one band that completely understands the importance of preserving dynamic range is My Bloody Valentine. Their new album MBV is also awesome. I like bands that don't let their music be ruined by record company producers making sure the disc is LOUD without having to turn up the volume.

In any case, I download only FLAC or from my 800+ CD collection, I have begun the process of digitizing everything to lossless format. I'm not quite done yet bringing everything into lossless format (previously I had digitized my entire CD library into 192 CBR MP3 format, prior to knowing about ALAC or FLAC formats). But that was well over 10 years ago.

Now back on the main topic...

I think that Criterion's decision to release in Dual Format is a great marketing strategy and is a sign that DVDs will eventually be no longer part of Criterion's future plans. It might be another 5-7 years before Criterion stops releasing DVDs but I think it will happen eventually.

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Where are you getting this info from?

Not only are CDs still very popular, but vinyl sales are also up.

The fluctuations on the market go both ways - for digital and physical media. In fact, I have been following the market very closely for a number of years now and at this point I feel pretty confident that the music industry's weakness has very little to do with the introduction of digital purchase options and pretty much everything to do with the fact that the overall quality of the music content the studios wish to sell is between average to very poor:

http://www.hitfix.com/news/us-album-...ch-record-lows


For your information, digital full-length sales comprise only 43% of the total market, so to speculate that CDs are somehow no longer popular is pretty strange.

http://www.spin.com/articles/music-s...ital-album-cd/

Pro-B

I'm getting this information from personal opinion. I guess I should have noted that CDs aren't popular anymore (in my life) but I forgot to add that. I still love CDs though, as I prefer a physical medium for music still (especially Vinyl records which I find to be the ultimate format in that they can be played without any electricity even - so if the power grid goes down permanently or some apocalypse strikes, my Vinyl records will still be playable on old fashioned turntables). I can't say the same thing about CDs or any other music/movie/media format for that matter.

I think the reason why CDs and digital music isn't selling well anymore is that people are obtaining their music for free now. There are also private bit-torrent sharing websites and blogs that offer ripped music for free. With people getting their music for free more and more now, I am not sure how the music industry is going to increase sales. I think the one area where they will always win is in ticket sales, as bands make a lot of money on that more than music sales. Fans can't forge Ticketmaster's tickets and bypass security, so in that area, the music industry and artists win. With album and music sales, they lose.

Originally Posted by onetet

I have a projector throwing its image onto a 100" pull-down screen, and every day I'm blown away by how close home-video technology has come to exhibition quality. I also still love going to the cinema; I could spend the rest of my life watching movies these two ways and be very, very happy.

May I ask what kind of HD digital projector you have? I've been looking at the Epson V11H501020 1080P home theater projector but that thing still costs a lot ($1,600).

Originally Posted by sc1957

Always remember, it's just "stuff," and you should be able to abandon (or replace) "stuff" with no qualms.

Thinking musically, I've had 33 1/3 and 45 RPM records (and a few 78s), 8-tracks, cassette tapes, CDs, and iPods. Lately most of my purchases and my listening have been digital. I still have some CDs (and still occasionally buy them, though I general make digital copies and listen to those). And I've had all the equipment to play all those media carriers. Most of it I no longer have. It's just "stuff," and it's gone.

True, its just stuff. Stuff can be addicting though.

I agree though, digital FLAC/lossless is the way I go for music these days. But sometimes I love holding a CD in my hand too.

[starman15317]

*raises hand* I still buy CDs

[the sordid sentinel]

Originally Posted by starman15317

*raises hand* I still buy CDs

Me too. Only about 5-8 a yr., but I still buy them. Never owned an IPod, don't intend to.

[lordmorpheus72]

I imagine that a Criterion music release would be something like the Immersion box sets they've done for The Wall, Wish You Were Here, and Dark Side of the Moon (or the Classic Albums dvd series). I'd love to see some classic, and new classic albums given that treatment.

I'd like to see:
U2 - Joshua Tree
Sigur Ros
Billy Joel
Elton John
Elvis Costello
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
John Coltrane
Depeche Mode
Elvis
Johhny Cash

[14728]

I like buying CDs over iTunes because if your computer crashes, the data might be lost. But with CDs, you won't lose your data (unless your clumsy). Plus you can play em in your car, so that's alway's a plus. And it's a bit more satisfactory to look at your big CD collection, but not as rewarding to stare at your iPod, plus you can put CDs onto your computer (and then you can have the songs physically and digitally), You can let friends borrow them, and Box Sets are much better Physically, because you get a lot of physical extras, like Coffee table books, posters, and other extras.

That's a lot of pros