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Old 07-03-2014, 03:22 AM   #104401
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Well I guess you're the best.
Not getting in the middle of the argument, but thank god I chose to watch Moonrise Kingdom two years ago and was turned into a fan. Not everyone has to be a fan, but I'm glad he has maintained his style all the way from Bottle Rocket to The Grand Budapest Hotel. He deserves praise for that regardless.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:23 AM   #104402
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I love Franju's Eyes Without a Face, so I'm intrigued by JUDEX, but have never seen it. I've heard the story is on the campy side but visuals are solid...is it a worthy addition?
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:34 AM   #104403
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Excellent haul! You truly can't go wrong with any of those.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:43 AM   #104404
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Not getting in the middle of the argument, but thank god I chose to watch Moonrise Kingdom two years ago and was turned into a fan. Not everyone has to be a fan, but I'm glad he has maintained his style all the way from Bottle Rocket to The Grand Budapest Hotel. He deserves praise for that regardless.
Exactly. I never criticized anyone for being a fan, I expressed why I don't care for his work. Unfortunately, some Anderson fans on here are über-sensitive anytime anyone states they don't like his work. And it's not just today, it's been for years.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:55 AM   #104405
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When is Moonrise Kingdom getting a release?




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Old 07-03-2014, 03:56 AM   #104406
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The dance scene in Band of Outsiders is one of my favorite movie moments.
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I was thinking of getting Babette's Feast tomorrow but will probably wait for November, as it just has that Thanksgiving feel. It was one of the most pleasant surprises I've had this year.
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Not getting in the middle of the argument, but thank god I chose to watch Moonrise Kingdom two years ago and was turned into a fan. Not everyone has to be a fan, but I'm glad he has maintained his style all the way from Bottle Rocket to The Grand Budapest Hotel. He deserves praise for that regardless.
I would agree. I think sometimes directors deviate too much from their comfort zone that it causes irreparable damage to their career. For Anderson, he's been successful with what he does so there's little reason to change.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:10 AM   #104409
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I hope they do release it soon, I really enjoyed it. The regular Blu is down to $10 but I just know a Criterion release is inevitable, so I've been holding off.
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I hope they do release it soon, I really enjoyed it. The regular Blu is down to $10 but I just know a Criterion release is inevitable, so I've been holding off.
Maybe the same day they release the Lena Dunham Girls Collection?
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:17 AM   #104411
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I hope they do release it soon, I really enjoyed it. The regular Blu is down to $10 but I just know a Criterion release is inevitable, so I've been holding off.
It'll probably be a couple of years yet. And then a couple more before Grand Budapest Hotel. I don't know if I can hold out...particularly for the latter. I may just buy the regular BD for Grand Budapest Hotel, then upgrade to the Criterion when it drops (like I did with Fantastic Mr. Fox)...if history is any indicator, the 20th Century Fox extras won't carry over to the Criterion, so it may be worth having both, either way.

On the other hand, Universal hardly gave Moonrise Kingdom anything in the way of extras, so in that case, it might be worth holding out for the Criterion.
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Nah, I'd say Moonrise is sooner rather than later (it's already been licensed to Criterion, given its having clips included on Mr. Fox features and it was mentioned in the Costco magazine that Anderson was recording a new commentary for one of his films at the Criterion studio the other month). Maybe not before the end of the year but possibly early next year.
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I don't even understand what this means. I don't think "Quirky" is a criticism anymore than "green" is.

There are so few auteurs worth anything making movies now, thank goodness for Anderson. We need more filmmakers with a voice.
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imo, there's no such thing as naturally quirky

I enjoy Wes Anderson's movies because they're over the top and cartoon-y, not because they're "real" and/or raw
I like Wes Anderson for many reasons, including these, among them is casting Bill Murray in his films. Anderson knows genius when he sees it.
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I spent my night watching Satyagit Ray films for the first time in my life. I know he gets a lot of praise on and off the forums, so I decided that now was as good of a time as any to get through some more of my unwatched Criterion films.

The first film I watched was the 1958 drama, The Music Room. I did not go into the film with too high of expectations, despite only hearing positive things about this one. Unfortunately, I did not enjoy it to the degree that I had hoped that I would. I do not think that there was anything wrong with the film per say. I just found it to be okay - nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps some of my criticism stems from my ignorance of the Indian culture, but one of the main things that turned me off from the film was the key part of the film - the music. I was never the biggest fan of Indian music, but I was willing to overlook this as I watched the film. Music is, after all, the one thing that makes and ultimately breaks this film. What I found was that much of the film is composed of long, drawn out scenes from these music rooms. The story felt pretty insignificant to me, in terms of the two main characters, one of an older generation and one of a newer generation, trying to one up the other. I thought the ending was nice, though, and brought the film to a solid conclusion, especially because Lord Roy was a changed man by the end. Unfortunately, I just can't overlook everything that transpired in between.

The second film I watched was Ray's 1963 film, The Big City. I would never in my wildest dreams imagine that I would have liked this film. When it was first announced, it did not sound like something that I would enjoy. As such, I put off watching it for the several months that I owned it. All of that changed when I decided to watch the film. The time flew by rapidly. My assessment of the film is as follows. The film is (get ready for the hyperbole) one of the greatest films of all time. Without spoiling too much, I will simply state that this is one of the most powerful films out there. Who would have thought that a woman gaining a great deal of independence in a rather patriarchal society would have such drastic implications? From challenging the family dynamic, to ultimately making or breaking a marriage, the film covered many important subjects in such a short amount of time. It's one of the nicest family dramas out there.

I hope more people pick up his films this sale, especially the latter one that I discussed.
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:20 AM   #104415
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The first film I watched was the 1958 drama, The Music Room. I did not go into the film with too high of expectations, despite only hearing positive things about this one. Unfortunately, I did not enjoy it to the degree that I had hoped that I would. I do not think that there was anything wrong with the film per say. I just found it to be okay - nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps some of my criticism stems from my ignorance of the Indian culture, but one of the main things that turned me off from the film was the key part of the film - the music. I was never the biggest fan of Indian music, but I was willing to overlook this as I watched the film. Music is, after all, the one thing that makes and ultimately breaks this film. What I found was that much of the film is composed of long, drawn out scenes from these music rooms. The story felt pretty insignificant to me, in terms of the two main characters, one of an older generation and one of a newer generation, trying to one up the other. I thought the ending was nice, though, and brought the film to a solid conclusion, especially because Lord Roy was a changed man by the end. Unfortunately, I just can't overlook everything that transpired in between.
You seem to have missed a lot of the depth and universal truths in Ray's narrative that make it one of the most significant and timelessly relevant films ever made (in my opinion). I think it is important to realize one does not need to be versed in Indian culture, or a fan of Indian music, to appreciate the genius of this film.

I know, because two years ago, I was a initially a big sceptic about blind buying - or even renting - The Music Room. All I knew about it was what I could find on YouTube. I found three clips, all focused on the three performances that take place in the music room during the course of the film. I thought the singing on display in two of these performances was really dreadful. No way I was going to watch this, I thought. But there was enough praise for the film that I decided to take a chance (thanks, SpiderBaby!). I had never seen a Satyajit Ray movie.

I am so glad I blind bought The Music Room. It is, without a doubt, one of the highlights of the Criterion Collection. Not only is the film's restoration a marvel to behold, the story is compelling and the acting superb. It is a tale of sacrifice with little hope of redemption; about how a vain, proud Bengali zamindar (a land holding aristocrat) remains willfully oblivious while his land - the source of his wealth - falls into neglectful decay. Because of this lack of investment, his income is shrinking in a steady downward spiral, yet he "fiddles while Rome burns" and maintains his haughty airs, especially toward an upstart commoner, a business man who is a new neighbor. Blood triumphs above all, in the zamindar's world view. The business man is not shy about using his new riches to celebrate in a princely style. The difference between them is that the commoner is more judicious about his wealth. He is a bit of an uncouth slob, but he is shrewd and works extremely hard. The reward is that the business man's wealth is growing and his world looks to the future, while the aristocrat's world is a relic of the past that is no longer sustainable.

There are many memorable scenes in this film. One of the most poignant makes the viewer realize that the uncultured and illiterate peasants and town dwellers do not value the new self-made status of the business man, who is closer to them in social origin, as much as they value the old traditions of homage to the princes. We get a strong sense that this, too, must pass away for India to fulfill her destiny.

The black and white PQ is luminous, possibly one of the most astonishing restorations I have ever seen. As for my take on the music in the film itself, the soundtrack outside of the set piece music room performances is outstanding. There are passages where the music adds a real emotional element to the visuals on the screen. However, after watching the movie several times, my views toward the singing displayed by the first two performers in the music room itself have not changed since I first experienced them in YouTube clips. I cannot stand it. Especially the second performer, the old man with the enormous beard, who at one point sounds like a cat being strangled. I did find the third performance, that of the energetic kathar dancer, to be mesmerizing and I enjoy watching it.

It is a testament to the power and brilliance of this film that I can overlook a relatively small film element that I greatly dislike, to write glowing praises about what Ray created. The Music Room is great stuff, and I highly recommend it.

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Anyone got any words to say about World Cinema Foundation Vol. 1? Kinda forgot about it and didn't know if I should think about picking it up during sale or not. Much obliged.
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Exactly. I never criticized anyone for being a fan, I expressed why I don't care for his work. Unfortunately, some Anderson fans on here are über-sensitive anytime anyone states they don't like his work. And it's not just today, it's been for years.

You seem to not stop attacking Wes Anderson and that's probably why the poster is replying in such a way. This is like the 5th post you mentioned you don't care for his work, we get it by now.
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Anyone got any words to say about World Cinema Foundation Vol. 1? Kinda forgot about it and didn't know if I should think about picking it up during sale or not. Much obliged.
I'd say they're all worth seeing at least once. The ones worth buying on their own (if they were available that way) and with the most replay value are easily THE HOUSEMAID and DRY SUMMER, especially THE HOUSEMAID. If you appreciate Indian cinema then A RIVER CALLED TITAS is also quite good, although it drags on way too long and gets sidetracked before finally getting back to its main plot thread. Getting the set on a half-price sale is easily worth it for those three alone, with the other three considered as bonus features. There are not a lot of supplements for the films, but what's there is interesting.
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I'm trying to put together a second, more lengthy order for the B&N sale, and I was interested in Rosetta. Haven't seen much discussion about it around here though, so I was curious what the general consensus is. I've been wanting to get into the Dardennes and it seemed like a good place to start. Is it worth a blind buy?
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Nah, I'd say Moonrise is sooner rather than later (it's already been licensed to Criterion, given its having clips included on Mr. Fox features and it was mentioned in the Costco magazine that Anderson was recording a new commentary for one of his films at the Criterion studio the other month). Maybe not before the end of the year but possibly early next year.
Time will tell, but I still don't see them releasing it for a while yet. Fantastic Mr. Fox took four years. Life Aquatic took even longer, and they've had the license to that one all along.
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