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[SammyJankis]

That quote is being misconstrued a tad:

It’s been a while since somebody has come out with such a big vision to things. Even the elements, the fact that dust is everywhere, and they’re living in this dust bowl that is just completely enveloping this area of the world. That’s almost something you expect from [Andrei] Tarkovsky or [Terrence] Malick, not a science fiction adventure movie.

He doesn't necessarily say it's on par with their work (I can't imagine Tarantino being incredibly taken with their films); just that expectations for a sci-fi epic should be adjusted.

I don't see any Kubrick comparisons. From what I remember around the Kill Bill days, Tarantino isn't particularly fond of him.

[brandon_260]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Time for an upgrade:

It's got to be coming. I saw a beautiful restoration of it this summer. Superb film.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by Ausjdm

Just read an article where Tarantino just compared interstellar to Kubrick and Tarkovsky?! Even PTA says it should be seen in IMAX only it's beautiful... Bold statement. Off-topic I know, but atleast those 4 directors are or will be in CC one day.

I have hard time believing this too - I expect it will be great, I loved Inception and I do really enjoy his films, but for me his better films are his first few. He needs to go back to his routes. I think they are sort of doing this as friends and to help public the film - I may be wrong. I can't wait to see it but because of these statements people will go in and be expecting th next Kubrick/Tarkovsky film, and they may end up disappointed.

I can't judge fairly without seeing, so I will probs come back on Friday with a better response.

Also I think any director would recommend seeing an IMAX film in an IMAX cinema. I do have so much respect for these directors and Nolan - he does stand by cinema and what it truly means, he has refused to use 3D gimmicks that have been forced on him (imagine Inception in 3D yuck!).

It would be great if this film did have the depths and boldness 2001, Solaris etc all have, but we will soon see!

Originally Posted by Ausjdm

I love Noe's I stand alone and Irreversible tremendously, enter the void not so much. (It was a good 30 min movie then blek) I'm afraid he will become a burnout tho lol. Polaroid, Def watch this 4 part Vice video with him very good!

http://www.vice.com/video/gaspar-noe-part-1-of-3--2

Well he has made 3 superb films with incredible depth and emotion, I trust him, he's been away for a while now so i'm sure he has thought this film out and the statements made in the active are there purely to gain interest and cause a stir I believe. Like I said above I can't judge without seeing or even seeing trailer but here is hoping it is on par with his other 3 films .

I'll be really let down if it is really bad - and thanks for the link

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by jw007

I'm probably too late to the party but I just wanted to agree with iScottie on the Tarantino comparisons of Nolan's film to Kubrick and Tarkovsky. Obviously he's seen the film and we have not, but 2001: A Space Odyssey is only 1 of 2 films I rank a perfect 10 out of 10 on this website (the other 10 out of 10 film being Apocalypse Now).

I am personally "psyched" to see Interstellar. But will it not let me down like Prometheus and Gravity did? Who knows. I was really looking forward to those 2 aforementioned films but in the end it was more about style rather than substance. When an ambitious science fiction film tries to do too much, rather than be minimalistic and mysterious like 2001 was, that is where it fails in my opinion. Still to this day I don't understand quite everything in 2001 but a movie such as Prometheus I understand and wish I didn't. The stunt film Gravity had ZERO philosophy and mystery but sure, it was one heck of a first class thrill ride! I'm not looking for thrill rides though, I'm looking for f'ing meaning.

I look forward to any film dealing with space exploration. Growing up, I loved the stuff from the '50s that were often set in the distant future of the 1970's that showed routine travel to the planets and, of course, the consequences, good and bad, of visiting them. Finding Zsa Zsa Gabor on Venus; not so bad. Finding Ray "Crash" Corrigan (aka "It") on Mars; very bad, especially when he decides to hitchhike back to Earth. All that stuff was silly but fun but occasionally there were some deeper films like Destination Moon, Forbidden Planet, Day the Earth Stood Still, etc.-usually big budget films.
Nowadays, the big budget Sci-Fi films seem more routine and it's often the little films that impress me. Something like Europa Report or Moon.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by jw007

I'm probably too late to the party but I just wanted to agree with iScottie on the Tarantino comparisons of Nolan's film to Kubrick and Tarkovsky. Obviously he's seen the film and we have not, but 2001: A Space Odyssey is only 1 of 2 films I rank a perfect 10 out of 10 on this website (the other 10 out of 10 film being Apocalypse Now).

I am personally "psyched" to see Interstellar. But will it not let me down like Prometheus and Gravity did? Who knows. I was really looking forward to those 2 aforementioned films but in the end it was more about style rather than substance. When an ambitious science fiction film tries to do too much, rather than be minimalistic and mysterious like 2001 was, that is where it fails in my opinion. Still to this day I don't understand quite everything in 2001 but a movie such as Prometheus I understand and wish I didn't. The stunt film Gravity had ZERO philosophy and mystery but sure, it was one heck of a first class thrill ride! I'm not looking for thrill rides though, I'm looking for f'ing meaning.

For me, the trailers for Prometheus were better than the actual film. I know they had changes in the writing department and such. For me that was the issue, there was very stupid choices made by the characters, the film editing for me was pretty poor and it just lacked the suspense an mystery the trailer had. I get this was for scifi than horror, but it did have the horror elements and I wish he kept it similar to Alien, Alien had such so much mystery and unknown to it. I wanted that in Prometheus - I wanted to leave asking more questions and trying to solve the puzzle. Its got some really great acting in it and the special effects are incredible. But for me the writing and editing ruined it for me. The score was used too much at times and used at times it didn't need it.

He got it so right with Alien, and I really trust him with Prometheus, and he convinced me to see in 3D which did not work for me (not like Gravity).

I love Gravity, especially 3D version at cinema. The visuals are stunning and I loved the performances throughout, I have always struggled to like Sandra Bullock, but she convinced we she could act in this (ignoring few other roles) but mostly she does stuff I can't stand. Clooney was also pretty good, but not the best, I preferred him in Solaris lol.

Gravity wasn't there for depth and mystery though, its a survival story and how we face challenges an duh our selves each day. It could have had more depth I agree and stuff, but I think it is nice having a simple film every once in a while.

But also I think Gravity was made more for the technical efforts and side of things, almost a demo to show what the director and his crew are capable of. The camera work was stunning, from Lubezski of course! :P

Sorry I ramble and don't explain myself well!

Originally Posted by hoytereden

I look forward to any film dealing with space exploration. Growing up, I loved the stuff from the '50s that were often set in the distant future of the 1970's that showed routine travel to the planets and, of course, the consequences, good and bad, of visiting them. Finding Zsa Zsa Gabor on Venus; not so bad. Finding Ray "Crash" Corrigan (aka "It") on Mars; very bad, especially when he decides to hitchhike back to Earth. All that stuff was silly but fun but occasionally there were some deeper films like Destination Moon, Forbidden Planet, Day the Earth Stood Still, etc.-usually big budget films.
Nowadays, the big budget Sci-Fi films seem more routine and it's often the little films that impress me. Something like Europa Report or Moon.

I think Moon is an incredible film, I love it! I was a bit let down by Europa Report, but it was still really well made!

[inderweltsein]

Originally Posted by Ausjdm

Just read an article where Tarantino just compared interstellar to Kubrick and Tarkovsky?!

Or to Malick and Tarkovsky..

All that shows is that Tarantino has not seen a Malick, a Tarkovsky, or a Kubrick film for a long time ...

Because (having seen it one week ago), Interstellar has nothing to be compared to anything directed by them. It is not even remotely close.
There are only some very clumsy, lumpish, obvious references to 2001, but nothing fine, any average writer/director could have made them.

Even this Tarantino sentence is absurd:
"It’s been a while since somebody has come out with such a big vision to things."

Does Tarantino watch anything apart from the Big 4/Big 5 blockbusters ?

I was also ROTFL when I read Nolan saying he was inspired by The Mirror.. That he had just discovered (the last sentence is the most funny part of the joke)

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Also, aside from Boyhood, A Separation, and The Tree of Life, I really cannot think of too many other films that could eventually be regarded as a "classic" from this decade. Care to refresh my memory?

There's plenty. I'd have no problem declaring any of the films that have topped my year-end charts over the past few years as masterpieces fit to stand alongside 2001 and Solaris. Adieu au langage, The Master, Blue Is The Warmest Colour, Hors Satan, Tabu, This Is Not A Film, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia and The Great Beauty are all towering works that I am confident will stand the test of time.

[inderweltsein]

There are only some very clumsy, lumpish, obvious references to 2001, but nothing fine, any average writer/director could have made them.

(NB: This is not a spoiler, but as I do not want to upset anyone... This is just an short comparison of how 2001 would be if it was written like Interstellar. )

[Show spoiler]Imagine a final twist explaining the monolith, and the Beyond the infinite part, at the end of 2001.

That's the way in which Interstellar is written...

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by inderweltsein

(NB: This is not a spoiler, but as I do not want to upset anyone... This is just an short comparison of how 2001 would be if it was written like Interstellar. )

[Show spoiler]Imagine a final twist explaining the monolith, and the Beyond the infinite part, at the end of 2001.

That's the way in which Interstellar is written...

[Show spoiler]there was an explanation at end of 2001 originally but kubrick removed it ^^ best decision he made for that film haha

[Ausjdm]

Oops I started a war here over my interstellar post!.

I'm going to see it no question in IMAX. will I love it more than Solaris or 2001 I doubt it.

In general I've enjoyed all of Nolan films. He's high-end on the style side of directing. My only issue is I feel he definitely borrows/gets inspired by other movies from the past, and I can't recall if he ever admits to any of this?? Also it seems like his fan base online believe he can do no wrong.

[Polaroid]

Originally Posted by Ausjdm

Oops I started a war here over my interstellar post!.

I'm going to see it no question in IMAX. will I love it more than Solaris or 2001 I doubt it.

In general I've enjoyed all of Nolan films. He's high-end on the style side of directing. My only issue is I feel he definitely borrows/gets inspired by other movies from the past, and I can't recall if he ever admits to any of this?? Also it seems like his fan base online believe he can do no wrong.

Yah its frustrating with his die hard fans, even when you give an obvious fault or any critism all you get as a response is go watch transformers! .. I'm like ok. Lol.

I wish he would go back to his routes though, I want more like Following and Memento!

[blu-bry]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Is anyone else lukewarm towards The Leopard? I really enjoyed Burt Lancaster's performance and I think the cinematography and scenery were drop dead gorgeous, but I was a bit bored and underwhelmed by the entire thing.

I'm willing to give it another chance because I'm not sure if I was exactly "feeling" it last night when I watched it. Still, films dealing with the aristocracy are not typically my thing.

I'm dead-on with you. My wife couldn't even finish it. I finished it, but it was a struggle. Thankfully it was a rental.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Nowhere did I state that "the new is not good". I have enjoyed more films this decade than I could have possibly imagined.

I am taking a premature approach to Interstellar, yes, as all of the trailers are making it out to be more of a visual spectacle than anything else. Furthermore, many of the early reviews of the film are very mixed. I understand that film is a subjective art medium, but it would still be better to feel reassured. Also, I am trying my best to not criticize Quentin Tarantino, but it is really freaking hard to top such films as 2001: A Space Odyssey and Solaris. They are two of the deepest and most profound films to ever be made, regardless of whether or not they are part of the science-fiction genre or not.

Also, aside from Boyhood, A Separation, and The Tree of Life, I really cannot think of too many other films that could eventually be regarded as a "classic" from this decade. Care to refresh my memory?

Originally Posted by adamhopelies

There's plenty. I'd have no problem declaring any of the films that have topped my year-end charts over the past few years as masterpieces fit to stand alongside 2001 and Solaris. Adieu au langage, The Master, Blue Is The Warmest Colour, Hors Satan, Tabu, This Is Not A Film, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia and The Great Beauty are all towering works that I am confident will stand the test of time.

I agree with Scott, but would add Blue is the Warmest Color to the three films he mentions. I think recent film history is pretty thin on “enduring classics.” I think, however, that time rewards certain films in ways that we are not clairvoyant enough to understand right now. It might be the half dozen that adamhopelies or it could be different films. I’m hopeful for that Godard movie, but time has not rewarded his last 40 years of work, so I’m skeptical.

Also, when new films (or even new music) is prefaced with “this film conjures up feelings of x classic film” or “these guys are great – they sound like the Rolling Stones”… that usually means that we are not talking about enduring works of art.

[JJJ225]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Also, aside from Boyhood, A Separation, and The Tree of Life, I really cannot think of too many other films that could eventually be regarded as a "classic" from this decade. Care to refresh my memory?

I think it's very hard to see any film as classics at the time of release. There will of course be many, many more films that came out recently will be regarded as classics.

[Polaroid]

Variety Artisans: The Seamless Look of 'Birdman' - YouTube

http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/wat...seamless-shot/

For those who have shown interest in the film sorry its not Criterion related!

[TheHighRoller]

Originally Posted by Ausjdm

Just read an article where Tarantino just compared interstellar to Kubrick...?!

Coming from him, I doubt that's a good thing.

Didn't he say that he disliked Mr. K? In fact, he said "f*ck him", but this was in his Pulp Fiction days, so he might have changed his mind.

I love Kubrick and Tarantino though, and I'll still be seeing Interstellar in IMAX, regardless of any praise or comparisons (I actually like Christopher Nolan). I'm sure Tarantino sprayed his pants over it though because it was shot on IMAX film, and is being screened as a 70mm alternative, which Tarantino is nuts for.

[bwdowiak]

A little while back someone was asking about Criterion titles that take place over the course of a specific date. I’ve got one: Cleo From 5 to 7 takes place between 5 and 7 (everyone knows that much, I’m sure ) on June 21st. One of the characters acknowledges that it is the longest day of the year. June 21st, the first day of summer is that day.

Any fans of this film? I’m hopeful for a 2015 blu-ray release.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by iScottie

Also, aside from Boyhood, A Separation, and The Tree of Life, I really cannot think of too many other films that could eventually be regarded as a "classic" from this decade. Care to refresh my memory?

That depends a lot on how one defines classic. Is Blow Out a classic? Is Thief? What about The Blob?

A lot of good films have been released over the past ten years. Are there a lot of Citizen Kanes or The Godfathers in there? I dunno.

But I'll bet one could find a pretty healthy number of Rear Windows and maybe even an Eyes Wide Shut or three.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by octagon

That depends a lot on how one defines classic. Is Blow Out a classic? Is Thief? What about The Blob?

A lot of good films have been released over the past ten years. Are there a lot of Citizen Kanes or The Godfathers in there? I dunno.

But I'll bet one could find a pretty healthy number of Rear Windows and maybe even an Eyes Wide Shut or three.

Well, no… because Rear Window is an enduring and undisputed all-time classic.
If there are a lot of Rear Window quality films out there, you might as well call this the golden age of cinema.

[octagon]

Just off the top of my head...

Cache/Hidden
Melancholia
both Dragon Tattoos
Zodiac
The Secret in Their Eyes
The Lives of Others
No Country for Old Men
Revanche
Carlos
...are all on par with Rear Window.