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Bates_Motel · 08-29-2018, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisKid

It's certainly an unconventional film, but I liked it, being the first Kurosawa I've watched. It certainly lives up to it's title- the film has a dream-like flow to it, scenes just pass by, with no "true" conclusion to any dream. I recommended it, but you may have to be in a mood for it.

The presentation is absolutely beautiful on it, BTW.

Other than the revisionist teal push, it looks great.

theater dreamer · 08-29-2018, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

It says "Kurosawa" on it, doesn't it... ?

That's all I'd need to know to spend my money. It's not a question of "will I buy everything Akira Kurosawa has ever done", it's more a matter of, "in what order will I buy what I don't yet have?"

So far, I have:

Rashomon
Ikiru
Seven Samurai
Throne of Blood
Yojimbo
Sanjuro
Kagemusha
Ran (the StudioCanal 4k import)

There are few certainties in life: death, taxes, and the Milwaukee Brewers choking down the stretch. Add to that an unwavering confidence that any film Kurosawa shot in his lifetime is going to be masterfully executed. The man could do no wrong in my eyes, and if a film doesn't absolutely knock me over the first time, it's not his fault-I just wasn't paying close enough attention.

Rich Pure Doom · 08-30-2018, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by qw0aszx

DVDBeaver review of Scenes from a Marriage: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...ge_blu-ray.htm

Judging from the screenshots, I think the compression is awful...

Yeah I agree. Wow does that look terrible.

theEXORCIST · 08-30-2018, 01:22 AM

Fanny and Alexander has awful compression. Hopefully the Bergman boxset has a new disc

Kakihara · 08-30-2018, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thebratpackwrangler

What is one movie that everyone is hoping for in December?

Lost Highway

bsend · 08-30-2018, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakihara

Lost Highway

Second this along with a Walker upgrade.

Kyle15 · 08-30-2018, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

Yeah I agree. Wow does that look terrible.

How can they just give stuff a pass like that? It's probably going to be the same in the boxset.
All these movies Criterion claims are important must...not really be so.

stobbart · 08-30-2018, 05:40 AM

Speaking of Kurosawa where is Dersu Uzala?

Scholer · 08-30-2018, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Other than the revisionist teal push, it looks great.

No way, the DVD was a lot tealer! The blu-ray has a warm and vivid look which clearly feels more authentic than the cooler tealish look on Warner's old DVD.

Scholer · 08-30-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stobbart

Speaking of Kurosawa where is Dersu Uzala?

The master Criterion is playing on FilmStruck is adequate, but given the film was shot on 70MM, it can look way better. So I'm waiting eagerly to hear about a proper restoration first, and Criterion releasing the current transfer would some serious bullshitting on their part since the telecine is at least more than a decade old.

nitin · 08-30-2018, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle15

How can they just give stuff a pass like that? It's probably going to be the same in the boxset.
All these movies Criterion claims are important must...not really be so.

Not saying the compression isn’t botched, but respected disc authoring expert David M has said on another forum that whatever software dvdbeaver uses adds some (bad) processing to whatever is on disc. David was specifically commenting on the caps posted for Second Sight’s set of Berlin Alexanderplatz and not anything released by Criterion. But it may be worth waiting for another site to put up caps because dvdbeaver continues to put up inreliable caps.

MifuneFan · 08-30-2018, 01:38 PM

Unless I missed it, DVDBeaver only did caps of the TV version, and none for the theatrical version. The TV version is 5 hours long, so I don't think anyone should be expecting very high bitrate stuff there. I do have to imagine the theatrical looking much better in this regard.

Kyle15 · 08-30-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin

Not saying the compression isn’t botched, but respected disc authoring expert David M has said on another forum that whatever software dvdbeaver uses adds some (bad) processing to whatever is on disc. David was specifically commenting on the caps posted for Second Sight’s set of Berlin Alexanderplatz and not anything released by Criterion. But it may be worth waiting for another site to put up caps because dvdbeaver continues to put up inreliable caps.

I'm referring to Criterion's history of less than nicely optimized discs. If it's DVDbeaver's problem on this one then good, but if it's that bad for real I wouldn't be surprised.

MifuneFan · 08-30-2018, 04:58 PM

Naruse will finally be getting some love on Blu-ray by way of Carlotta Films in France. They have a box set upcoming for five films of his.

https://www.amazon.fr/Mikio-Naruse-G...=%5Bblu-ray%5D

Includes:

Sound of the Mountain (1954)
Flowing (1956)
When A Woman Ascends the Stairs (1960)
Yearning (1964)
Two in the Shadow (1968)

Hopefully Criterion follows suit and starts putting out some of his films too.

Banned User · 08-30-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theater dreamer

That's all I'd need to know to spend my money. It's not a question of "will I buy everything Akira Kurosawa has ever done", it's more a matter of, "in what order will I buy what I don't yet have?"

So far, I have:

Rashomon
Ikiru
Seven Samurai
Throne of Blood
Yojimbo
Sanjuro
Kagemusha
Ran (the StudioCanal 4k import)

.

You don't have The Hidden Fortress?

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Originally Posted by stobbart

Speaking of Kurosawa where is Dersu Uzala?

There's another film that had a recent restoration and no BD release. Really want this on BD. Wasn't it shot on 70mm?

regeyer · 08-30-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Banned User

You don't have The Hidden Fortress?

Hidden Fortress is a must have, as far as I am concerned. Not as good as Seven Samurai, but an excellent film nonetheless.

Sommerswerd · 08-30-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stobbart

Speaking of Kurosawa where is Dersu Uzala?

Mosfilm uploaded a HD version of the film on Youtube last year. But it doesn't seem like it is available any more.

StarDestroyer52 · 08-30-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Banned User

You don't have The Hidden Fortress?

Yeah as a Kurosawa fan this is must-have.

regeyer · 08-30-2018, 06:17 PM

An update on FilmStruck:

I recently became a FilmStruck Member and I was originally delighted to have such easy access to so many Criterion releases, as well as other classic films.

Unfortunately, it's not a perfect service. For one, the PQ appears to be lacking with many of the films. Admittedly, some of these have not been released on Blu-Ray, so what I am seeing may be as good as it gets. But it appears that the PQ is lacking, even when compared to other streaming services, such as Netflix or Amazon Prime.

The service also has a number of technical glitches. They are hard to describe, but essentially something happens where the services stops and logs me out. When I return I can sometimes start watching where I left off. Sometimes I can't.

Last night, I was Watching Godzilla vs Mothra. I had never seen it before and I figured I'd give it a go. What a terrible film. Just terrible. But, as usual, I sat through the whole thing just hoping it would get better. It didn't.

With less than 2 minutes until the end the system crashed again - it had already crashed two times prior to that. When I logged back in I had to start the movie all over and fast forward to where I left off. I almost said, "screw it." But being the purist I am, who keeps a diary of every movie he watches, I needed to finish it. Then some errors came up saying that the film was not available in my area. So I had to start again and the glitch resolved itself, allowing me to watch the last two minutes of this dreadful film.

Anyway, I have mixed feelings on FilmStruck. I like the access to so many Criterion and classic movies, but the interface is terrible and doesn't work well. I'm not sure how long I'm going to remain a subscriber.

Bates_Motel · 08-30-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scholer

No way, the DVD was a lot tealer! The blu-ray has a warm and vivid look which clearly feels more authentic than the cooler tealish look on Warner's old DVD.

No, it wasn't. I own both. I re-colored the blu to match the DVD, which whites actually being white instead of green, and the blue ghost soldiers actually blue instead of teal.

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a...=89195&i=9&l=0

CLEARLY the old DVD isn't teal at all. It skews slightly magenta, as many DVDs did, but otherwise matches what was shown in theaters. Not sure why you are posting blatant misinformation when there's proof right in front of you.

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08-30-2018, 01:22 AM	#179684
theEXORCIST Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Minneapolis Mn 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:930	Fanny and Alexander has awful compression. Hopefully the Bergman boxset has a new disc

08-30-2018, 05:40 AM	#179688
stobbart Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:1199 Trading Score:6	Speaking of Kurosawa where is Dersu Uzala?

08-30-2018, 01:38 PM	#179692
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	Unless I missed it, DVDBeaver only did caps of the TV version, and none for the theatrical version. The TV version is 5 hours long, so I don't think anyone should be expecting very high bitrate stuff there. I do have to imagine the theatrical looking much better in this regard.

08-30-2018, 04:58 PM	#179694
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	Naruse will finally be getting some love on Blu-ray by way of Carlotta Films in France. They have a box set upcoming for five films of his. https://www.amazon.fr/Mikio-Naruse-G...=%5Bblu-ray%5D Includes: Sound of the Mountain (1954) Flowing (1956) When A Woman Ascends the Stairs (1960) Yearning (1964) Two in the Shadow (1968) Hopefully Criterion follows suit and starts putting out some of his films too.

08-30-2018, 06:17 PM	#179699
regeyer Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2009 Trading Score:3	An update on FilmStruck: I recently became a FilmStruck Member and I was originally delighted to have such easy access to so many Criterion releases, as well as other classic films. Unfortunately, it's not a perfect service. For one, the PQ appears to be lacking with many of the films. Admittedly, some of these have not been released on Blu-Ray, so what I am seeing may be as good as it gets. But it appears that the PQ is lacking, even when compared to other streaming services, such as Netflix or Amazon Prime. The service also has a number of technical glitches. They are hard to describe, but essentially something happens where the services stops and logs me out. When I return I can sometimes start watching where I left off. Sometimes I can't. Last night, I was Watching Godzilla vs Mothra. I had never seen it before and I figured I'd give it a go. What a terrible film. Just terrible. But, as usual, I sat through the whole thing just hoping it would get better. It didn't. With less than 2 minutes until the end the system crashed again - it had already crashed two times prior to that. When I logged back in I had to start the movie all over and fast forward to where I left off. I almost said, "screw it." But being the purist I am, who keeps a diary of every movie he watches, I needed to finish it. Then some errors came up saying that the film was not available in my area. So I had to start again and the glitch resolved itself, allowing me to watch the last two minutes of this dreadful film. Anyway, I have mixed feelings on FilmStruck. I like the access to so many Criterion and classic movies, but the interface is terrible and doesn't work well. I'm not sure how long I'm going to remain a subscriber.

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