The Criterion Collection

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

The difference is that every other distributor doesn't create huge, oversized digipack packaging made out of flimsy cardboard in order to accommodate their dual format releases like Criterion did.

Well, if that was "the problem", Criterion had a far simpler and cheaper solution to that at hand, as well.

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Well, if that was "the problem", Criterion had a far simpler and cheaper solution to that at hand, as well.

Actually, for the three disc (1 Blu-ray + 2 DVDs) releases they didn't. The 3-disc Scanavo case wasn't available until the last few dual-format releases. (and for the record, they shouldn't have stopped releasing in dual-format. I don't understand why they caved.)

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by dwk

Actually, for the three disc (1 Blu-ray + 2 DVDs) releases they didn't. The 3-disc Scanavo case wasn't available until the last few dual-format releases.

You know that digipack and Scanavo aren't the only two packaging options in the world, right? Somehow pretty much every other distributor manages to put together 3-disc releases... almost like it's not that big a challenge!

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by kvnbhovis

I will not be doubledipping on UHD except for future new releases of films I don't have on blu-ray. That is unless a great deal of restoration has been done to the films. I prefer the older films anyway and they never were meant to be released in such high definition. Many of the Golden Age film directors preferred a soft focus for many of the scenes (particularly with women) and were never meant to be hd, Plus when I was a child I had to endure bad antennae reception and many stations came in not so good. I'm not that old but I remember the 70's before cable was in houses. Thank God I don't have to deal with that anymore. But I'm thankful for what I have.

I won't be double dipping either except for films that are my favorite. For example, I'd grab a UHD of Seven Samurai, assuming there is a significant improvement over the Blu-Ray. But for most of my collection, both Criterion and non-Criterion, I will not be upgrading unless (1) the film is one of my favorites and (2) the UHD shows an improvement in picture quality.

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

You know that digipack and Scanavo aren't the only two packaging options in the world, right? Somehow pretty much every other distributor manages to put together 3-disc releases... almost like it's not that big a challenge!

Yes, but they weren't going to start using the standard Blu-ray cases for 3-disc sets.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by regeyer

I will not be upgrading unless (1) the film is one of my favorites and (2) the UHD shows an improvement in picture quality.

(1) For me, it has to be a favorite for me to buy it at all.

(2) 99% do.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by kvnbhovis

I prefer the older films anyway and they never were meant to be released in such high definition. Many of the Golden Age film directors preferred a soft focus for many of the scenes (particularly with women) and were never meant to be hd, Plus when I was a child I had to endure bad antennae reception and many stations came in not so good. I'm not that old but I remember the 70's before cable was in houses. Thank God I don't have to deal with that anymore. But I'm thankful for what I have.

This is...very wrong. On several levels.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

(1) For me, it has to be a favorite for me to buy it at all.

For the past few years I've tried to limit my purchases to favorites as well. But, can something really be considered a favorite if you watch it once every few years? As my collection grows, I couldn't possibly watch all of them once a year. But there are certain titles that I will watch several times a year. Those are my favorite favorites.

[BenOswald]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Question for those who’ve seen Dead Man:

...was Iggy Pop Billy Bob Thornton’s b!tch?

Speaking of Dead Man, and as a desire to circumvent the boring UHD discussion here, does anyone else feel that this movie, and many other Jarmouch movies are strongly indebted to both The Hit (1984) and Wim Wenders early movies?

Semi-competent /quasi cool bad guys, solo guitar score, ironic violence, Robby Muller.

I like all of them, but when I saw The Hit, it seems like that was the seed of so much late 80s indie cinema.

[evercuriousgeek]

I had no idea Criterion had so many titles on iTunes, and most of them seem to be on sale for $9.99 today. Obviously not the bigger studio titles from Disney and Sony, but there are a small handful I'm considering (The Player, The War Room, Time Bandits). The one title I really wanted in digital (Gimme Shelter) isn't available though. Bummer.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by regeyer

For the past few years I've tried to limit my purchases to favorites as well. But, can something really be considered a favorite if you watch it once every few years? As my collection grows, I couldn't possibly watch all of them once a year. But there are certain titles that I will watch several times a year. Those are my favorite favorites.

Yeah, everyone has to find their own place to draw the line. The point I was going for is that if I'm going to buy something, it means I like it enough to want to have the best available version.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by BenOswald

Speaking of Dead Man, and as a desire to circumvent the boring UHD discussion here, does anyone else feel that this movie, and many other Jarmouch movies are strongly indebted to both The Hit (1984) and Wim Wenders early movies?

Semi-competent /quasi cool bad guys, solo guitar score, ironic violence, Robby Muller.

I like all of them, but when I saw The Hit, it seems like that was the seed of so much late 80s indie cinema.

Haven’t seen The Hit.

But the Wim Wenders influence on JJ is pretty apparent.

...at least to me.

[BamaDullard]

Originally Posted by BenOswald

Speaking of Dead Man, and as a desire to circumvent the boring UHD discussion here, does anyone else feel that this movie, and many other Jarmouch movies are strongly indebted to both The Hit (1984) and Wim Wenders early movies?

Semi-competent /quasi cool bad guys, solo guitar score, ironic violence, Robby Muller.

I like all of them, but when I saw The Hit, it seems like that was the seed of so much late 80s indie cinema.

In an interview at the Lincoln Center for Dead Man, he says he was thinking of Eric Clapton's score from The Hit when he considered using Neil Young for the soundtrack.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Well, if that was "the problem", Criterion had a far simpler and cheaper solution to that at hand, as well.

The real reason that Criterion stopped the dual format releases was nothing to do with blu-ray collectors. It was DVD collectors, and there are still many of them out there as anyone who has watched a closet video will know, who objected to paying more money for a DVD because it came with a blu-ray which they had no intention of watching anyway particularly as Criterion releases as seen to be pricey to begin with.

And personally, as a blu-ray collector I was irritated at being stuck with 2 extra DVDs half the time that I didn't need or want particularly when they came in larger sized packaging to accommodate them.

If Criterion do start going down the UHD route I speculate it would be simpler to do blu-ray / UHD dual releases simply because they won't need multiple discs to get all of the features on there like they did with DVDs and they can fit both discs in a single, regular sized plastic case.

[Hellspawn28]

It looks like Arrow's Alejandro Jodorowsky boxset is UK only. I hope Criterion could do their own Alejandro Jodorowsky boxset for the R1 market.

[BenOswald]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Haven’t seen The Hit.

But the Wim Wenders influence on JJ is pretty apparent.

...at least to me.

Both Christopher Nolan & I love The Hit:
https://www.criterion.com/current/to...nolan-s-top-10

Maybe is we can get you on board CC will upgrade it to blu

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by BenOswald

Both Christopher Nolan & I love The Hit:
https://www.criterion.com/current/to...nolan-s-top-10

Maybe is we can get you on board CC will upgrade it to blu

More people need to see The Hit! It’s great!

[bonehica]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

More people need to see The Hit! It’s great!

All this talk about it certainly has my interest piqued!!

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

More people need to see The Hit! It’s great!

I've been waiting for a blu ray upgrade, but maybe I'll just bite the bullet and watch it in SD. I notice that it's streaming on the Criterion Channel.

[Scottie]