2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Navster]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

It was morons who did that to her!

Don't generalize now!

told you the Yankees wouldnt get Lee or Crawford...

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sawzalot

We never spit on Cliff Lees Wife

Only because he hasn't pitched in Philly while playing for a rival team. You seriously think Philly has less crazies than NY?

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

With Lee gone, Yankees preaching patience

Source : http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/...s_nyy&c_id=nyy

What is that supposed to mean? If there waa a large quantity of aces available I'd say ya, the Yankees will get by without Lee just fine. But there just aren't. The article mentions guys like Garza, but they cannot sign him on the open market. They'd have to give up significant prospects in a trade, something the Yankees seem increasingly reluctant to do these days.

[sawzalot]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Only because he hasn't pitched in Philly while playing for a rival team. You seriously think Philly has less crazies than NY?

Not even for a moment but I will say that they are every where as I have said all along, ya know the Philly bashing gets old to an older fan like myself that actually appreciates professional sporting events, D-Bags are every where and it always puts things in a different perspective for all major sports cities.

[sawzalot]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

It was morons who did that to her!

Don't generalize now!

I will not generalize and usually I dont, I just point out that this shite really does happen every where and the effects are very detrimental to our teams, I mean look where Lee decided to go instead of to the pinstripes, just saying.

[toef]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Maybe the Yanks should sign Hall then.

Haha, I was mostly joking, but maybe they should. At least they'd get to sign someone finally (although they did get Martin today, so maybe they're closing down the checkbooks).

I realize Crawford is better for scoring runs, so I intentionally presented the stats that made Hall look like the better hitter.

And defense is completely overrated, as far as I'm concerned. Great fielders save how many runs for their team per year? And how many extra RBIs do great hitters get per year?

Pitching > hitting > huuuuuuuuuge space > defense

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Put his wife in the stands in Phily with her husband pitching for the opponent's team and she'd probably get much worse. That sort of thing isn't unique to NY. Though I'm sure it did leave some negative impression on the Lee's.

It was a Phillies fan, after all, that threw up on a little girl at a game. That's a bit worse than spitting, I think (though both are completely uncalled for).

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I'm confused as to why you think the AL East will be so much more difficult hitting. The Jays and O's have terrible pitching. The Rays and Yankees are pretty good. All in all my guess if Gonzalez will put up at least as good if not better numbers with the Red Sox. He'll also have a better group of guys hitting ahead of him.

I should've probably thought this out a bit. SF and PHI have the best rotations in baseball, but I still think the AL pitching is better than NL pitching, overall.

I'm not trying to crap on Gonzalez, I'm just not going to fall for the hype until he actually produces. Some people are acting like Boston is the new Murderers' Row because they picked up A-Gon and Crawford. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

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While passing some time, I started to think of what the Yankees could do to make up for their embarrassment (assuming, of course, that there's some embarrassment involved in not being able to "get their guy", or having Lee taken away from them yet again). So...

Felix Hernandez

If the Yankees could somehow work out a deal for him, I think that would create a bit of a shakeup. I know he's only 1 year into his recent 5 year deal, but that doesn't mean the M's won't trade him, if the deal is right. And with the Yankees possibly feeling a need to do something big, the M's might be able to get quite a deal out of them.

Long shot? Yes. Impossible? No.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by toef

Felix Hernandez

If the Yankees could somehow work out a deal for him, I think that would create a bit of a shakeup. I know he's only 1 year into his recent 5 year deal, but that doesn't mean the M's won't trade him, if the deal is right. And with the Yankees possibly feeling a need to do something big, the M's might be able to get quite a deal out of them.

Long shot? Yes. Impossible? No.

Not a bad idea. I hadn't really thought of him. My guess is either Seattle would flat out say no or ask for far too much in the was of top prospects for Felix. But for the Yankees they might as well give it a shot. Felix is one of the best starters in baseball.

[sawzalot]

I would like to add that it is a very exciting time for the Phillies Fans right now as this surely has to be one of the most powerful rotations ever assembled, this will surely help this team be one of the strongest for the next few years and knowing full well that any one or two of these guys can fall off some from their respective dominant play and this whole thing will come to an end, it sure will be awesome for the immediate future. Now back to Football D. Burgess was a nice pickup now to find a linebacker .

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sawzalot

I would like to add that it is a very exciting time for the Phillies Fans right now as this surely has to be one of the most powerful rotations ever assembled, this will surely help this team be one of the strongest for the next few years and knowing full well that any one or two of these guys can fall off some from their respective dominant play and this whole thing will come to an end, it sure will be awesome for the immediate future. Now back to Football D. Burgess was a nice pickup now to find a linebacker .

Well I'm a Braves fan and I'll just say congrats. It's probably a lot like how I felt back in 1992 when Atlanta signed Maddux to add to an already great starting staff. The Phillies now have starting pitching that is as good or better than the Braves staff of the mid-late 90's.

[Navster]

Originally Posted by sawzalot

I would like to add that it is a very exciting time for the Phillies Fans right now as this surely has to be one of the most powerful rotations ever assembled, this will surely help this team be one of the strongest for the next few years and knowing full well that any one or two of these guys can fall off some from their respective dominant play and this whole thing will come to an end, it sure will be awesome for the immediate future. Now back to Football D. Burgess was a nice pickup now to find a linebacker .

Hats off to the Phils for pulling this off... easliy the best starting rotation in baseball and quite possibly one if the best ever, but only time will tell if everyone can stay healthy....

Halladay
Lee
Oswalt
Hamels



Also just wanted to add that the Giants did beat all of these guys 2 or more times last year....

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by NavsterKing

Halladay
Lee
Oswalt
Hamels

I'll take a Healthy Beckett, Lester, Lackey, and Buchholz over it

[Navster]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I'll take a Healthy Beckett, Lester, Lackey, and Buchholz over it

i'll take Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Sanchez/Zito over both of those anyday...

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by NavsterKing

i'll take Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Sanchez/Zito over both of those anyday...

good luck with that...













Oh wait the Giants won the world series

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Not a bad idea. I hadn't really thought of him. My guess is either Seattle would flat out say no or ask for far too much in the was of top prospects for Felix. But for the Yankees they might as well give it a shot. Felix is one of the best starters in baseball.

After what Seattle pulled on the Yankees last season with the Cliff Lee deal, the Yankees will never do business with the M's again.

[Navster]

Originally Posted by supersix4

good luck with that...













Oh wait the Giants won the world series

My point exactly

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

After what Seattle pulled on the Yankees last season with the Cliff Lee deal, the Yankees will never do business with the M's again.

Seattle is getting theirs lmao first they trade for Lee and get nothing, giving up prospects, they are still recovering for the butt violation the Orioles gave them with the Bedard trade . At least be happy about that

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

After what Seattle pulled on the Yankees last season with the Cliff Lee deal, the Yankees will never do business with the M's again.

Good point. I'd forgotten about that. I'm not sure what chocked me mre the Rangers snagging Lee out of the blue mid-season or the Phillies landing him when few even knew they were in the running till last night. It did seem like the Mariners were acting a little underhanded with the Lee trade to Texas.

[toef]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

After what Seattle pulled on the Yankees last season with the Cliff Lee deal, the Yankees will never do business with the M's again.

Perhaps, but I think their grudge only lasts until the M's have something new the Yankees want.

As Chad said, it wouldn't hurt the Yankees to test the waters on a Hernandez deal, but the M's would probably ask for a lot.

The Red Sox reportedly tried to trade for Hernandez last year (mid-2009 season) and the Mariners wanted a lot for him. Now coming off a Cy Young season, I suspect they'd want even more.

The main two reasons I don't see the deal happening are:

1) The M's are trying to build a team, and are waiting on a few prospects to develop, and then maybe have a successful Cinderella type season. Trading their ace away would be a set-back to those plans.

2) George Steinbrenner died. If this were a couple years ago, and the Yankees just lost their most sought-after free agent to another team, George would be throwing a fit, and go after a new big signing, regardless of the cost. Cashman, Hank and Hal aren't as reactive, which (in the long run) is probably a good thing.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by toef

The main two reasons I don't see the deal happening are:

1) The M's are trying to build a team, and are waiting on a few prospects to develop, and then maybe have a whippersnapper of a team that can make a run at the playoffs in a couple years. Trading their ace away would be a set-back to those plans.

2) George Steinbrenner died. If this were a couple years ago, and the Yankees just lost their most sought-after free agent to another team, George would be throwing a fit, and go after a new big signing, regardless of the cost. Cashman, Hank and Hal aren't as reactive, which (in the long run) is probably a good thing.

If the Yankees do a good job scouting, drafting and developing young talent it will definately pay off. It's always a risk trying to build a team from the ground up and the Yankees havn't done much of that since the mid to late 90's. But honestly the Yankees best years (mid 90's-early 00's) happened by developing young talent with a relatively lower payroll. It really seemed like the Yankees went into a bit of a title slump post 2000 when they traded away most of their young talent in favor of often badly overpriced free agents/veterans.

[Tcan21]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Well I'm a Braves fan and I'll just say congrats. It's probably a lot like how I felt back in 1992 when Atlanta signed Maddux to add to an already great starting staff. The Phillies now have starting pitching that is as good or better than the Braves staff of the mid-late 90's.

Im a Braves fan as well and that was my first thought as well...hopefully the Braves dont stand pat with the Uggla trade, probably still need another outfield bat.

Halladay
Lee
Oswalt
Hamels

Maddux
Glavine
Smoltz
Avery/Neagle