2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Batman1980]

FOX Sports' Jon Paul Morosi reports that Fausto Carmona is garnering plenty of interest on the trade market.
Morosi said it's possible that even more teams have asked about Carmona than Zack Greinke given the Royals' high asking price. He adds that the Indians aren't looking to move Carmona but are in "listen and explore" mode, possibly looking to capitalize on a thin starting pitching market. Morosi thinks the Yankees and Rangers could both be in on Carmona if they're unable to work out a trade for Greinke. Carmona is coming off a solid bounce-back season, posting a 3.77 ERA and 1.31 WHIP over 31 starts. Dec. 15 - 1:37 pm et

Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...310456&id=1313

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by toef

In terms of Yankee deals, I think Mussina worked out pretty well. He went 92-53 over those 6 years, and stuck around for a couple after that ended. That record doesn't exactly sound amazing, but I think the Yankees got what they were looking for.

Many people has stated that the Mussina Yankee deal is possible one of the best (if not the best) deals in the history of free agency.

What I find bizzare is that Vegas odd have the Red Sox have better odds than the Yankees to win the WS in 2011 (the Phillies have the best odds). The RS have a lefty heavy line up (teams are just going to line up 3 lefty starters when they face them and the reason I know this is because this happened to the Yankees in 2008) with only two sure thing starters and a suspect bullpen (outside of Daniel Bard) and even their closer Pap is suspect now and is very close to punching is ticket out of Boston. The Yankees are in the same boat starter wise (CC and Hughes are the only two sure things but if Pettitte returns, it'll make three). If anything, the odds for both teams should be equal. I guess they just jumped on the banwagon based on the signings and didn't look under the surface.

[Batman1980]

SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees expect Andy Pettitte to decide within the next few days if he'll pitch in 2011.
Heyman says the Yankees are "cautiously optimistic" about his decision. You can bet the Bronx Bombers will do everything within their power to convince the 38-year-old to come back after they were spurned by Cliff Lee. Pettitte went 11-3 with a 3.28 ERA in 21 starts this past season. Dec. 15 - 3:01 pm et

Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...310468&id=2021

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...310468&id=2021

Lee not signing may make Andy want to pitch this year to try and help the team... thats the only thing id say making him possibly returning

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

Lee not signing may make Andy want to pitch this year to try and help the team... thats the only thing id say making him possibly returning

You mean, improves his bargaining position so that he can demand more money to return.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Many people has stated that the Mussina Yankee deal is possible one of the best (if not the best) deals in the history of free agency.

I don't think so lol Reggie Jackson was better, Catfish Hunter, and maybe B. Williams.

and thats just the Yankees

We aren't even talking FA pickups like Manny for the Sox, Maddux, Bonds, Ichiro, Ortiz, Nolan Ryan, exc.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I don't think so lol Reggie Jackson was better, Catfish Hunter, and maybe B. Williams.

and thats just the Yankees

We aren't even talking FA pickups like Manny for the Sox, Maddux, Bonds, Ichiro, Ortiz, Nolan Ryan, exc.

Best trade ever has to be the Red Sox sending ol' Babe to the hated Yankees, making that one of the most intense rivalries in sports.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

You mean, improves his bargaining position so that he can demand more money to return.

i dont see Pettitte doin that...

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

As a Cubs fan I pray the Yankees wanting Zambrano is true. He's an overpaid headcase that doesn't work hard and can't handle the Chicago media, and I have little doubt he'd blow up on the New York media within days. The Cubs should offer to give Zambrano to the Yanks for nothing in return.

The Cubs may need to throw something additional into the mix to get the Yankees to bite. Maybe throw in a year of free big macs for Carlos or something like that.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Best trade ever has to be the Red Sox sending ol' Babe to the hated Yankees, making that one of the most intense rivalries in sports.

Over the last 85+ years there hasn't been a real Red Sox-Yankees rivalry for more than maybe 15 different seasons in that stretch. For something to be called a rivalry both teams have to be competitive against one another. The Red Sox have rarely ever been competitive with the Yankees until the past decade or so.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Many people has stated that the Mussina Yankee deal is possible one of the best (if not the best) deals in the history of free agency.

I still find it funny how bad Mussina's luck was.

Yankees win World Series 1998,1999,2000
2001 - Yankees get Mussina
Yankees win zero World Series between 2001-2008
2009 - Mussina retires, Yankees win World Series

That's terrible luck. And Mussina was a decent post-season starter too.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

The Cubs may need to throw something additional into the mix to get the Yankees to bite. Maybe throw in a year of free big macs for Carlos or something like that.

Perhaps a lifetime supply of prozac for him.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I still find it funny how bad Mussina's luck was.

Yankees win World Series 1998,1999,2000
2001 - Yankees get Mussina
Yankees win zero World Series between 2001-2008
2009 - Mussina retires, Yankees win World Series

That's terrible luck. And Mussina was a decent post-season starter too.

At least he played in a WS. Mattingly only made on PO appearance (1995). The Yankees were in the WS in 1981 (lost to the Dodgers). Mattingly came up in 1982 thru 1995 and in 1996, the Yanks went to and won the WS. Now that's bad luck.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I don't think so lol Reggie Jackson was better, Catfish Hunter, and maybe B. Williams.

and thats just the Yankees

We aren't even talking FA pickups like Manny for the Sox, Maddux, Bonds, Ichiro, Ortiz, Nolan Ryan, exc.

You can't look at it that way. It's kind of hard to explain it though.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Perhaps a lifetime supply of prozac for him.

Carlos is just a terrible teammate and shows up when he feels like it. My gut feeling is that he'd be a disaster for the Yankees. I know Jeter is a great guy for team captain but I'm not sure Dr. Phil could keep Zambrano from an epic blowup.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Carlos is just a terrible teammate and shows up when he feels like it. My gut feeling is that he'd be a disaster for the Yankees. I know Jeter is a great guy for team captain but I'm not sure Dr. Phil could keep Zambrano from an epic blowup.

Most likely is that there's no real leadership in that clubhouse in Chicago. Yankees have plenty of leaders there and have a low tolerance for nonsense. Before anything, they are will sit with him and tell him straight out, "if you f up just once, you're gone". Trust me, if he f's up just once, they'll send him ass home so fast (cut him) he won't know what happened and his MLB career will basically be over because if he would act like that with the Yankees, he'll be like that with any team.

[toef]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

Lee not signing may make Andy want to pitch this year to try and help the team... thats the only thing id say making him possibly returning

I think it could work both ways. If Lee signed, that might've encouraged Pettitte to come back, because they'd be looking good for another WS run, which might make it worth Pettitte's while to come back for one last year.

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I still find it funny how bad Mussina's luck was.

Yankees win World Series 1998,1999,2000
2001 - Yankees get Mussina
Yankees win zero World Series between 2001-2008
2009 - Mussina retires, Yankees win World Series

That's terrible luck. And Mussina was a decent post-season starter too.

Mixed somewhere in there (2001? I think) was the time he was 1 out away (even 1 strike away) from a perfect game, against the Red Sox, in Fenway Park. Could've been amazing.

Some of the Yankee perfect games (or almost-perfect games) have a weird way of connecting themselves.

David Wells went to the same high school as Don Larsen.

David Cone's perfect game came on Yogi Berra Day at Yankee Stadium, in which Don Larsen threw out the ceremonial first pitch to Berra.

And in the game that Mussina ultimately came up short in, David Cone was the SP for the Red Sox.

[Wingman1977]

Update on the Russel Martin deal is that it's a one year deal. Low risk/high reward. Seems like they are planning on Jesus Montero to take over the starting catcher role in 2011 (unless Martin has a monster season and they bring him back and Montero gets dealt).

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by toef

I think it could work both ways. If Lee signed, that might've encouraged Pettitte to come back, because they'd be looking good for another WS run, which might make it worth Pettitte's while to come back for one last year..

yea im not sure what to think...i mean, hes got the rings..i believe that he was thinking... if the yanks get Lee, then they dont need me... but, now they didnt get Lee, so the Yanks need him... could go either way though as you said

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by toef

I think it could work both ways. If Lee signed, that might've encouraged Pettitte to come back, because they'd be looking good for another WS run, which might make it worth Pettitte's while to come back for one last year.



Mixed somewhere in there (2001? I think) was the time he was 1 out away (even 1 strike away) from a perfect game, against the Red Sox, in Fenway Park. Could've been amazing.

Some of the Yankee perfect games (or almost-perfect games) have a weird way of connecting themselves.

David Wells went to the same high school as Don Larsen.

David Cone's perfect game came on Yogi Berra Day at Yankee Stadium, in which Don Larsen threw out the ceremonial first pitch to Berra.

And in the game that Mussina ultimately came up short in, David Cone was the SP for the Red Sox.

The one World Series that still blows my mind is the Marlins beating the Yankees in 6 games in 2003. I still have a hard time believing that actually happened. I honestly thought Florida would be lucky to win 1 game that Series. The Yankees were far superior that season in practically every respect. But that's baseball. Sometimes one red hot pitcher (Beckett) can carry a team to a title.