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View Poll Results: Which team will win the 2019 World Series?
Washington Nationals in 4 games 2 11.11%
Washington Nationals in 5 games 4 22.22%
Washington Nationals in 6 games 8 44.44%
Washington Nationals in 7 games 1 5.56%
Houston Astros in 4 games 0 0%
Houston Astros in 5 games 0 0%
Houston Astros in 6 games 2 11.11%
Houston Astros in 7 games 1 5.56%
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:36 PM   #11941
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MLB is taking over the Los Angeles Dodgers due to what Bud Selig called "deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Dodgers."

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6397488
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:37 PM   #11942
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MLB is taking over the Los Angeles Dodgers due to what Bud Selig called "deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Dodgers."

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6397488
Wow i didnt realize it was getting that bad..
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:40 PM   #11943
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Wow i didnt realize it was getting that bad..
Ya good ridance Frank!! He had to take a 30 mill loan just to cover payroll
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:41 PM   #11944
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Ya good ridance Frank!! He had to take a 30 mill loan just to cover payroll
Looks like its going from bad to Worst.. i actually feel sorry for Dodger Fans

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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 PM   #11945
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MLB is taking over the Los Angeles Dodgers due to what Bud Selig called "deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Dodgers."

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6397488
Long overdue. Can't believe it had to come to this. It sounded to me like McCourt was badly over-leveraged even when he bought the team. Not sure why MLB ever ok'ed him buying the team to begin with.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #11946
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TMZ says the IRS is investigating the Dodgers and owners Frank and Jamie McCourt because the McCourts apparently took $145 million from the team and paid no taxes as well as the McCourt children receiving a salary from the team but performing no duties.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/20/jamie-...all-audit-tax/
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #11947
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I hope the Dodgers don't close up shop. They are a really good rival team for my Giants and it would hurt the NL West if they were disbanded.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:19 PM   #11948
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I hope the Dodgers don't close up shop. They are a really good rival team for my Giants and it would hurt the NL West if they were disbanded.
MLB won't let it happen. They'll sell the team. The Dodgers are a attractive franchise for someone/group to own.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:52 PM   #11949
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CHICAGO -- If Chicago has been willing to believe that a cow caused the Great Chicago Fire, maybe it will buy this one: The White Sox got the idea to throw the 1919 World Series after the Cubs did the same thing one year earlier.

That's the suggestion -- more of a hint, really -- from Eddie Cicotte, one of the infamous Black Sox banned from baseball after their tainted World Series against Cincinnati.

In a 1920 court deposition the Chicago History Museum recently put on its website, Cicotte said "the boys on the club" talked about how a Cub or a number of Cubs were offered $10,000 to throw the 1918 Series they lost 4-2 to the Boston Red Sox.

Cicotte is as vague as vague can be, failing to name any names or provide any details about how the players might have done it or even if he believes the Cubs threw the Series. But if what he suggests is true it means that when it came to fixing ball games in the early 20th century, Chicago was nobody's Second City.

"It is interesting to me as a Cubs fan and a historian of Chicago that both teams could be involved in back-to-back years," said Peter Alter, an archivist at the museum who examined the document and other artifacts that the museum paid $100,000 for at auction.

If Cicotte's deposition lacks specifics, it does offer a glimpse into the life of a player when their lives were a lot more like the working stiffs who rooted for them than the wealthy owners they played for.

Players commonly groused about being underpaid and there wasn't anyone in the majors who didn't hear rumors about fixes. It was impossible not to see the gamblers at the games, the lobbies of the hotels where they stayed or in the taverns where they drank.

And they talked about such rumors all the time, including, Cicotte said, on a long train ride from Chicago to the East Coast.

"The ball players were talking about somebody trying to fix the National League ball players or something like that," Cicotte is quoted as saying in the deposition.

"Well anyway there was some talk about them offering $10,000 or something to throw the Cubs in the Boston Series," he said. "Somebody made a crack about getting money, if we got into the Series, to throw the Series."

Cicotte apparently likes the sound of $10,000 because that is what he said somebody left in his hotel room for his role in the fix of the 1919 Series. He died in 1969.

Whether any of this is true is unknown, but an author who wrote about the 1918 Series after examining the deposition and other material said not only was such a fix possible, it was understandable.

"They didn't make much money," said Sean Deveney, a reporter with The Sporting News whose book, "The Original Curse," said a fix by the Cubs was likely. "They had the incentive to do something like that."

Both the Cubs and the Red Sox were upset that the teams' owners were not paying their fair share of the World Series receipts, Deveney said. Before one Series game in Boston, the two squads refused to come on the field until the owners paid them what they were promised.

"The owners said no," Deveney said.

Deveney said the players quickly understood that they could not win a public relations battle by refusing to play a game during World War I, not in a ball park filled with soldiers. So they played.

So did the Cubs throw the Series? No great hitter suddenly forgot how to hit, and the Cubs pitchers were terrific, finishing the Series with an astonishing 1.04 ERA.

Still, "there were definitely some suspicious plays," Deveney said, and most of them involved outfielder Max Flack.

In the fourth game, Flack was picked off not once, but twice. Flack turned a catchable fly ball in the sixth and final game into an error that allowed two runs to score in the Red Sox's 2-1 win.

And there was the time Babe Ruth came to the plate for the Red Sox -- a pitcher at the time, but emerging as one of the game's best hitters -- and the Cubs' pitcher, Lefty Tyler, saw that Flack was not playing deep enough in right field.

"He waved him back and Flack just stood there," Deveney said. "Sure enough, Babe hit one over his head" for a triple that scored two runs.

Later in the game, Cubs pitcher Phil Douglas came in the game long enough to field a grounder and throw the ball over the first baseman's head, allowing the decisive run to score in the Red Sox's 3-2 win.

A few years later, Douglas was banned from baseball for what the papers called "treachery" after proposing that another team in the pennant race pay him to leave the team and "go fishing."

All six games in the 1918 Cubs-Red Sox Series were close -- Boston never won a game by more than a run -- and it would only take a dropped ball here or a badly thrown ball there to turn victory into defeat.

"It didn't take much to throw a game," Deveney said. "It really didn't."

If there is a record of a baseball official asking Cicotte a single question about the 1918 World Series, Deveney doesn't know about it.

"Baseball didn't want to investigate," he said. "They wanted to make it all about the Black Sox and say, 'OK, gambling's gone."

And what if the Cubs -- a team that hasn't won a World Series in 103 years, blaming the curse of a goat and the glove of a fan named Steve Bartman along the way -- had actually beaten Boston back in 1918?

"It would have bumped the curse up a decade," joked Alter. "We could be looking at a century [without winning a World Series] seven years from now."


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So it looks like it could be a case of bad karma instead of the curse of the billy goat for the Cubs.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:21 PM   #11950
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So it looks like it could be a case of bad karma instead of the curse of the billy goat for the Cubs.
LOL That's too funny. It would mean Babe Ruth's scoreless inning streak in the World Series as a pitcher for the Red Sox was the result of a fix. Babe went 2-0 as a starter that Series with a 1.06 ERA. He won Game 1 by a 1-0 score, pitching a shutout
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:27 PM   #11951
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Sporting events back then were much more corrupt, as the players made very little relative to what they make today. It was easy to bribe them to affect their play. It is why we still see major bribery scandals in college sports today, because the athletes basically earn nothing while millions are bet on the sport. Look at the NBA, you never see accusations anymore about point shaving among the players. It is only the refs, who make normal salaries.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:31 PM   #11952
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Sporting events back then were much more corrupt, as the players made very little relative to what they make today. It was easy to bribe them to affect their play. It is why we still see major bribery scandals in college sports today, because the athletes basically earn nothing while millions are bet on the sport. Look at the NBA, you never see accusations anymore about point shaving among the players. It is only the refs, who make normal salaries.
These days most betting scandels are caught by Vegas oddsmakers. Casinos have all sorts of systems for detecting unusual betting activities. They are the ones who more often than not catch college basketball point-shaving in recent years. But ya, that type of blantant cheating mostly happens among college players who don't make any money these days.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:51 PM   #11953
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Bad day for the Giants. 10-2....ouch.
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Bad day for the Giants. 10-2....ouch.
winning the series 2/3.. I'll take it
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:11 AM   #11955
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Very true.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:19 AM   #11956
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It's not the Yankees fault that other teams would rather not spend money and instead take the revenue sharing money and make a huge profit. The Yankees choose to reinvest their profits in their team each year and thanks to that are a contender every season. The Blue Jays could easily afford to spend $100 million+ per year on salary if they wanted but they have no interest in spending the money and that's why in today's baseball climate they won't get better than third in their division year after year. The Blue Jays have one of the richest corporate owners in all of sports but the owners are perfectly content having a bottom ten payroll and not contending for the playoffs each year.



Aren't the Blue Jays televised on their owner's network?
This year they are exclusively on Roger's Sportsnet. In the past it was 2 sometimes 3 different networks carrying the games, and not all were shown.

The continued regular season failures of this ballclub may soon lead to contraction as the average attendance drops every year (for the most part). The Yanks are our biggest draw and there were only 25,000 at last night's ballgame. I never said it was the Yankees fault other teams don't spend like they do. Other teams simply don't have the resources the Yankees have. How much is their deal with the "YES" Network worth annually? I'm sure if they averaged 15,000 fans a night they'd still turn a profit, even after paying those huge salaries.

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Old 04-21-2011, 12:22 AM   #11958
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You left out the World Series ring. Even if he doesn't return to top form (he has looked good so far this year) He has at least helped us win a ring so I am happy we signed him.
He's all yours.....Enjoy watching his ERA go up.
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This year they are exclusively on Roger's Sportsnet. In the past it was 2 sometimes 3 different networks carrying the games, and not all were shown.

The continued regular season failures of this ballclub may soon lead to contraction as the average attendance drops every year (for the most part). The Yanks are our biggest draw and there were only 25,000 at last night's ballgame. I never said it was the Yankees fault other teams don't spend like they do. Other teams simply don't have the resources the Yankees have. How much is their deal with the "YES" Network worth annually? I'm sure if they averaged 15,000 fans a night they'd still turn a profit, even after paying those huge salaries.
Um, the Yankees own YES.
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This year they are exclusively on Roger's Sportsnet. In the past it was 2 sometimes 3 different networks carrying the games, and not all were shown.

The continued regular season failures of this ballclub may soon lead to contraction as the average attendance drops every year (for the most part). The Yanks are our biggest draw and there were only 25,000 at last night's ballgame. I never said it was the Yankees fault other teams don't spend like they do. Other teams simply don't have the resources the Yankees have. How much is their deal with the "YES" Network worth annually? I'm sure if they averaged 15,000 fans a night they'd still turn a profit, even after paying those huge salaries.
The Yankees actually own YES network.
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