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View Poll Results: Which team will win the 2019 World Series?
Washington Nationals in 4 games 2 11.11%
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Washington Nationals in 6 games 8 44.44%
Washington Nationals in 7 games 1 5.56%
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:30 PM   #19281
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Angels are stupid, they don't need more offense, they need pitching, although a middle lineup consisting of Trout/Pujols/Hamilton omg
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:31 PM   #19282
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I'm a little surprised he got 5 years, but I knew he'd get more than the 3 years the Rangers were willing to offer. That's going to be a very good offense with Hamilton, Trout, Trumbo, Kendrys Morales, Howie Kendricks, and Pujols.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:35 PM   #19283
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I'm a little surprised he got 5 years, but I knew he'd get more than the 3 years the Rangers were willing to offer. That's going to be a very good offense with Hamilton, Trout, Trumbo, Kendrys Morales, Howie Kendricks, and Pujols.
Didn't we all think the Sox were going to have an amazing offense


Jacoby Ellsbury
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:38 PM   #19284
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F U Josh!!!! I really liked that guy. Now I don't know why I ever did.
I can't really fault the guy when the Rangers were offering $80 million and the Angels gave him $125 million. He wanted to stay in Texas, but that's too much money to leave on the table.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:43 PM   #19285
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I can't really fault the guy when the Rangers were offering $80 million and the Angels gave him $125 million. He wanted to stay in Texas, but that's too much money to leave on the table.
The Angels?!?! That's like him telling all of us Rangers fans, "F U!!!" Well, you know what Josh? F U.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:46 PM   #19286
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Didn't we all think the Sox were going to have an amazing offense


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Very true...
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #19287
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The Angels?!?! That's like him telling all of us Rangers fans, "F U!!!" Well, you know what Josh? F U.
The Rangers did everything possible to drive Josh's free agent contract down in price. All their signals seemed to indicate they didn't want him back. Apparently Daniels thought Hamilton would give them a chance to match whatever contract offer he received, but honestly the Angels are now in a better position to win than the Rangers for the next few years. It looks like Josh took some of the backbiting personally from Nolan Ryan and others on the team.

The Angels now have three of the five best hitters in baseball, in the same lineup.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #19288
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Very true...
I mean on paper LA is far better, but Pujols could fall Arod style anytime, Hamilton can get hurt or go off the rails equally as quick.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:05 PM   #19289
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All I know is I will be more then happy to drive up to Anaheim and watch the Angels play.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:10 PM   #19290
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Angels are stupid, they don't need more offense, they need pitching, although a middle lineup consisting of Trout/Pujols/Hamilton omg
Don't forget Trumbo as well. That part of the lineup is deadly.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:11 PM   #19291
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The Angels?!?! That's like him telling all of us Rangers fans, "F U!!!" Well, you know what Josh? F U.
If anyone is to blame here it's the Rangers for being cheap and not giving Hamilton what he deserves... like fate said, can't blame Hamilton here
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:11 PM   #19292
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I mean on paper LA is far better, but Pujols could fall Arod style anytime, Hamilton can get hurt or go off the rails equally as quick.
Well, one stopped using roids. The other has never legitimately been tied to them.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:54 PM   #19293
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If anyone is to blame here it's the Rangers for being cheap and not giving Hamilton what he deserves... like fate said, can't blame Hamilton here
You really can't blame him. Not only that but Ryan heavily criticized him going into the offseason of his contract year. Not exactly a great way to entice your best player to re-sign. On paper it looks good, but you still got to go out and play. Tell that to all the Yankee teams from 2003-2008.

As an example, Rays fans can't really be pissed that CC signed with the Red Sox for an ungodly amount. They were never going to come even close to that amount and the Red Sox signed him to way more than any other team was going to offer. It sucks, but only one to blame is the front office.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:58 PM   #19294
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I can't blame Hamilton for taking the money, but he's far too much of a head-case to deserve 5 years.

I won't say this will bite them as bad as the Pujols deal will, but it has the potential to go off a cliff.

I certainly won't blame the rangers for not overpaying.

I'd blame the lack of a salary cap and the fact that all it takes is one moron to overpay.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #19295
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I can't blame Hamilton for taking the money, but he's far too much of a head-case to deserve 5 years.

I won't say this will bite them as bad as the Pujols deal will, but it has the potential to go off a cliff.
How many times has he slipped up since bouncing back? 3? I think its pretty good for someone whose been down the road he has.

I'd worry about injury anyway

Still isn't worth that contract (although I'd rather have him than Jason Werth)
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:09 PM   #19296
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I can't blame Hamilton for taking the money, but he's far too much of a head-case to deserve 5 years.

I won't say this will bite them as bad as the Pujols deal will, but it has the potential to go off a cliff.

I certainly won't blame the rangers for not overpaying.

I'd blame the lack of a salary cap and the fact that all it takes is one moron to overpay.
I would gladly take 30 HRs and 100+ RBIs. Especially when you consider how dreadful his first couple months were. He was also a 300 hitter in the second half.

Anybody that really views Pujols as a disappointment wrote him off after a month and a half.
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How many times has he slipped up since bouncing back? 3? I think its pretty good for someone whose been down the road he has.

I'd worry about injury anyway

Still isn't worth that contract (although I'd rather have him than Jason Werth)
3 slips up off the field and at least half a dozen...just...weird crap on the field, from the fact that his "blue eyes" made him hit worse in the sun, to the fact that caffeine overdose sidelined him for 5 games.

He's only guaranteed 120 days a year even if not injured, and some spurts of that he's not going to try and will be bad.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:10 PM   #19298
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If Hamilton had been even remotely consistent last season I'd be sad to see him leave, but with how low his lows were on both offense and defense I'd rather see someone good rather than "great" replace him than overpay for lackluster performance.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:11 PM   #19299
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No Athlete is worth the contract these guys are getting kinda sad Detroit didn't go after him for left field for that price tho.
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I would gladly take 30 HRs and 100+ RBIs. Especially when you consider how dreadful his first couple months were. He was also a 300 hitter in the second half.

Anybody that really views Pujols as a disappointment wrote him off after a month and a half.
No, people who view Pujols as a bad deal are saying that 8 years from now he won't be worth anywhere near the money he is going to be paid.

Hell, 3 years from now it'll be dubious. In 8 years it's almost a certainty to be a terrible deal.
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