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Old 05-04-2009, 12:02 AM   #261
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Anyone think they are going to have to change the new Yankee Stadium's dimensions? Homers are flying out to rightfield easier than ever, and this is without A-Rod, one of the greatest homerun hitters of all-time. Rumors are that Cashman is deeply concerned, considering he just sank a ton of money into Sabathia and Burnett.
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The Redsox are a big market team, they have the resources to spend that type of money. This doesn't mean that they throw money at every single problem they have like the Yankees do.

Take a look at the Redsox farm system, they have talent at all levels and Theo has loaded up on young, solid arms.

They are built to be competitive year in and year out spending money on key free agents while building a core of home grown players.

This is something the Yankees have failed to do since the 90s.
Couldn't of said it any better. So true
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:22 AM   #263
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Five hours and 15 innings later, the Mariners take another series from Oakland. Baseball is definitely fun around here this year. Go Mariners!!!
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:33 AM   #264
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Anyone think they are going to have to change the new Yankee Stadium's dimensions? Homers are flying out to rightfield easier than ever, and this is without A-Rod, one of the greatest homerun hitters of all-time. Rumors are that Cashman is deeply concerned, considering he just sank a ton of money into Sabathia and Burnett.
Don't think it will make a difference. Balls are still going to fly out of there. One way to prevent it is if he puts a retractable roof on the stadium so the ball won't carry. There saying when the old Yankee Stadium gets torn down that the wind current is going to get worse making it a hitters paradise. Well it is now but just think. Royals beat the Yanks 30-15 with 20HR's
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:21 AM   #265
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Anyone think they are going to have to change the new Yankee Stadium's dimensions? Homers are flying out to rightfield easier than ever, and this is without A-Rod, one of the greatest homerun hitters of all-time. Rumors are that Cashman is deeply concerned, considering he just sank a ton of money into Sabathia and Burnett.
A-Fraud... greatest scumbag ever in baseball.

And no there is nothing wrong with Yankee stadium... blown way out of proporation because the stadium just opened. Even the guys on the YES Network said this. ANd they don't get any more pro Yankee than the YES Network.

Truth is... Sabathia and Burnette are way overpaid. Burnette, all he does is walk ppl and give up long balls like he did in Toronto.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:24 AM   #266
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Jays look good and of course O's have zero quality pitching lol our 2 best starters would be 3-5 starters on any quality staff...


if the jays just get 1-2 good closers they could be rays like.

Wells crushed us as usual lol

its scary to think how good the jays could be with a bit more of payroll money if they'd spent some green on Krod and burnett
I disagree man, they are fine with what they got. Everyone wrote them off because they never signed a FA and look at them now. They are the best team in Baseball since last July under Cito Gaston. They don't need to go out and waste money on FAs... all these guys in Toronto are home grown first rounders mainly and finally hitting their stride.

PS Burnette sucks... he has the Jays late season offence to thank for his 18 wins and HUGE almost 5.00 ERA. The guy is not that good.

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Old 05-04-2009, 04:57 AM   #267
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I disagree man, they are fine with what they got. Everyone wrote them off because they never signed a FA and look at them now. They are the best team in Baseball since last July under Cito Gaston. They don't need to go out and waste money on FAs... all these guys in Toronto are home grown first rounders mainly and finally hitting their stride.

PS Burnette sucks... he has the Jays late season offence to thank for his 18 wins and HUGE almost 5.00 ERA. The guy is not that good.

Go Jays
I just didn't like what I saw from the relief that faced the O's especially the hits given up to are below average team in the late innings.

downs seems like he could breakout I just got that feeling watching a few of the rps that it could be trouble if they get to the playoffs

nothing like talking playoffs in May lol

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Old 05-04-2009, 05:39 AM   #268
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its scary to think how good the jays could be with a bit more of payroll money if they'd spent some green on Krod and burnett
Burnett was a bum and I'm glad the Jays got rid of him.

Anyone who does average performance then ramps it up when there's the possibility of a big contract or a trade is an @$$clown.

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Old 05-04-2009, 11:15 AM   #269
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Burnett was a bum and I'm glad the Jays got rid of him.

Anyone who does average performance then ramps it up when there's the possibility of a big contract or a trade is an @$$clown.

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Old 05-04-2009, 11:17 AM   #270
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I just didn't like what I saw from the relief that faced the O's especially the hits given up to are below average team in the late innings.

downs seems like he could breakout I just got that feeling watching a few of the rps that it could be trouble if they get to the playoffs

nothing like talking playoffs in May lol
I agree the Jays don't have that dominate closer but downs is one of the best in relief. There are a couple of candidates though... I would like to see Jason Fraser given a shot at closer or Brandon League when he stops walking people. Both guys throw high 90s. Fraser is probably the better of the two.

PS... You guys need to get rid of Greg Zaun haha... Because we had him last season and missed Aaron Hill most of last season, i'm pretty sure thats why the Jays never made the playoffs lol
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:18 AM   #271
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Wow... Yanks really can't beat the Red Sox can they?!?!
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:07 PM   #272
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Wow... Yanks really can't beat the Red Sox can they?!?!
I hope it continues as they got a good game from Lester last night, his best of the young season so far.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:33 PM   #273
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I hope it continues as they got a good game from Lester last night, his best of the young season so far.
When I passed out he had nine strikeouts, but had just given up back-to-back homers...did he last much longer than that? Was glad to hear they kept their lead through the last three...
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:46 PM   #274
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When I passed out he had nine strikeouts, but had just given up back-to-back homers...did he last much longer than that? Was glad to hear they kept their lead through the last three...
Yeah the game was pretty late because of the rain delay, last thing I saw was the back to back homers after Girardi got ejected. I know Lester finished with 10Ks but not sure how many innings, but since he had 9 in the 5th, probably not much longer after the homers.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:47 PM   #275
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Anyone see Ankiel hit the wall while trying to make a catch last night? Pretty brutal, as he was going he slipped and went head first and had to get taken off on a stretcher. Luckily everything is ok and he should miss little or no time.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:31 PM   #276
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Yankees fan to the rescue.

Sabathia is having a pretty rough time, isn't he? But that's the only thing worth noting right now.

Teixeira is notorious for having a slow start, so if his stats don't improve in another few weeks, then maybe its time to worry, but right now, not really.

Burnett may not be the greatest pitcher in the league, but it sounds like a bit of bitterness that he left the Blue Jays is the reason why people aren't giving him enough credit for how good he actually is. If he was still a Blue Jay, Blue Jay fans would think he was one of the top 5 pitchers in the league.

The seats at Yankee Stadium are empty, yes, but if you look at the attendance every night, they're doing quite well. In fact, they're leading the league in attendance... go figure. Considering the average ticket price at YS is ~$75 and the average ticket price for the rest of MLB is ~$25, the fact that they still lead in attendance is pretty impressive.

So why the empty seats? Because most seats were gobbled up by ticket brokers, who thought they'd make a killing re-selling the tickets online (Stubhub, eBay, wherever). The problem is nobody wants to pay $600 for a $100 ticket, so the seats look empty. The Yankees already got their money from selling the season tickets to the brokers.

The time to worry will be during Jan/Feb when tickets for the 2010 season go on sale. If the ticket brokers realized they can't make money buying/re-selling tickets anymore, then they're not going to renew their season tickets next year, and then the Yankees might be concerned that they priced season tickets out of the range of normal fans.

The person who said the Yankees don't try to build up their own talent anymore has no idea what they're talking about. Sure, they're notorious for gobbling up big name free agents, but they've become very protective of their prospects in the last few years. The core of the team through the WS years, Jeter/Posada/Bernie/Rivera were all home-grown. Today add in Melky and Cano, Joba (who should be trained as Rivera's successor, not a starter), Hughes, Pena (who will probably be groomed to replace Jeter in the next couple of seasons), and others.

They also have Austin Jackson waiting in the wings, ready to eventually take over in the outfield. Since the Yankees probably won't be re-signing Damon or Matsui, Jackson could become a starter by next season... unless the Yankees do something ridiculous like go after Matt Holliday.

Ignoring the standings, since it's still early... the Red Sox are the team to beat in the East. The Blue Jays will be lucky if they're not in 4th place by July.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:41 PM   #277
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PS... You guys need to get rid of Greg Zaun haha... Because we had him last season and missed Aaron Hill most of last season, i'm pretty sure thats why the Jays never made the playoffs lol
I cant stand him can't hit can't get anyone out half the time its wild arse pitches to 2nd if he even tries...

we have weiters just waiting and they should just bring him up and let him finish out the season.

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Yankees fan to the rescue.

Sabathia is having a pretty rough time, isn't he? But that's the only thing worth noting right now.

Teixeira is notorious for having a slow start, so if his stats don't improve in another few weeks, then maybe its time to worry, but right now, not really.

Burnett may not be the greatest pitcher in the league, but it sounds like a bit of bitterness that he left the Blue Jays is the reason why people aren't giving him enough credit for how good he actually is. If he was still a Blue Jay, Blue Jay fans would think he was one of the top 5 pitchers in the league.

The seats at Yankee Stadium are empty, yes, but if you look at the attendance every night, they're doing quite well. In fact, they're leading the league in attendance... go figure. Considering the average ticket price at YS is ~$75 and the average ticket price for the rest of MLB is ~$25, the fact that they still lead in attendance is pretty impressive.

So why the empty seats? Because most seats were gobbled up by ticket brokers, who thought they'd make a killing re-selling the tickets online (Stubhub, eBay, wherever). The problem is nobody wants to pay $600 for a $100 ticket, so the seats look empty. The Yankees already got their money from selling the season tickets to the brokers.

The time to worry will be during Jan/Feb when tickets for the 2010 season go on sale. If the ticket brokers realized they can't make money buying/re-selling tickets anymore, then they're not going to renew their season tickets next year, and then the Yankees might be concerned that they priced season tickets out of the range of normal fans.

The person who said the Yankees don't try to build up their own talent anymore has no idea what they're talking about. Sure, they're notorious for gobbling up big name free agents, but they've become very protective of their prospects in the last few years. The core of the team through the WS years, Jeter/Posada/Bernie/Rivera were all home-grown. Today add in Melky and Cano, Joba (who should be trained as Rivera's successor, not a starter), Hughes, Pena (who will probably be groomed to replace Jeter in the next couple of seasons), and others.

They also have Austin Jackson waiting in the wings, ready to eventually take over in the outfield. Since the Yankees probably won't be re-signing Damon or Matsui, Jackson could become a starter by next season... unless the Yankees do something ridiculous like go after Matt Holliday.

Ignoring the standings, since it's still early... the Red Sox are the team to beat in the East. The Blue Jays will be lucky if they're not in 4th place by July.
Didn't last year teach us Red Sox or Yankee fans to not take up and coming teams lightly? And i just heard Posada to the d.l. which is not good for the yanks.
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Burnett may not be the greatest pitcher in the league, but it sounds like a bit of bitterness that he left the Blue Jays is the reason why people aren't giving him enough credit for how good he actually is. If he was still a Blue Jay, Blue Jay fans would think he was one of the top 5 pitchers in the league.
Um no, Burnette sucks. He missed most of his first 2 seasons with the Blue Jays and then on a contract year he won 18 games with an ERA approaching 5.00. Thanks to the second half offensive explosion by the Blue Jays he has a good season. He did not steal any games for the Jays and you can have him as far as i am concerned. Not many Jays fans were upset to see him go.

We are better off without his walks and homeruns that he gives up. Clearly. Enjoy his stay of 5 years or whatever it is with a .500 record if he is lucky, many trips to the DL and a terrible ERA.

And PS toefer... Jays have the best record in the AL since last July... thought I would let you know! The team is built with many past number 1 draft picks and a coaching staff that was there for 3-4 playoff appearances and 2 world series wins. This is no fluke.

Jays are headed in the right direction for the first time since that damn strike in 1994. Jays ruled the AL EAST from 1985 to 1993. Remember, the decade and a half when the Yankees sucked? Funny how history repeats itself.

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Um no, Burnette sucks. He missed most of his first 2 seasons with the Blue Jays and then on a contract year he won 18 games with an ERA approaching 5.00. Thanks to the second half offensive explosion by the Blue Jays he has a good season. He did not steal any games for the Jays and you can have him as far as i am concerned. Not many Jays fans were upset to see him go.
Yes, Burnette, whoever that guy is, probably sucks. In the AL, an ERA under a 4.00 means you're one of the top 20 pitchers in the league (ERA-wise). It's not that Burnett's a bad pitcher, he just played for a team that couldn't score runs.

The Blue Jays have only scored more than 800 runs once in the last 8 or 9 seasons. By comparison, the Yankees have only scored less than 800 runs once in that same time. The Yankees nearly scored 1,000 runs 2 years ago... which is a feat that's only been seen once in the last 60 years.

Toronto's now on pace for 960 runs this year, and based on their past history, I'm really supposed to believe that's going to hold up? I don't think so.

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And PS toefer... Jays have the best record in the AL since last July... thought I would let you know! The team is built with many past number 1 draft picks and a coaching staff that was there for 3-4 playoff appearances and 2 world series wins. This is no fluke.

Jays are headed in the right direction for the first time since that damn strike in 1994. Jays ruled the AL EAST from 1985 to 1993. Remember, the decade and a half when the Yankees sucked? Funny how history repeats itself.
That's great, except that a season is from April-October, not July-May. And I wouldn't say the Jays ruled the AL East. They barely won 90 games. That's not exactly dominating the competition.

Using your years:

85: Blue Jays won the East by 2 games over the Yankees
86: Blue Jays finished in 4th place
87: Blue Jays finished in 2nd place
88: Blue Jays finished in 4th place (2 games ahead of the 5th place Yanks)
89: Blue Jays won the East by 2 games over the Orioles
90: Blue Jays finished in 2nd place
91: Blue Jays won the East by 7 games, the first time you can consider using the word ruled
92: Blue Jays won the East by 4 games
93: Blue Jays won the East by 7

So to revise the statement, I think it's only fair to say the Blue Jays ruled the East from 91-93, and I'm not sure how much you really want to call that ruled.

And I noticed you said "ruled the AL EAST" because you wanted to leave out what happened to the Blue Jays once they hit the post-season. With the exception of 92 and 93, they were lucky to win 1 game in the playoffs.

From 85-93 the Blue Jays won 825 games, and the Yankees (in what is historically probably their crappiest time in franchise history) won 737 games. That's an average of 91 per year for the Jays, 81 for the Yankees. 10 games is dominating? Maybe.

From 95-2004 the Yankees won 966 games, and the Jays won 772. If you're keeping score, that means 96 per year for the Yanks, and 77 for the Blue Jays. +19, in an average year, is a lot more dominating.

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