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View Poll Results: Which team will win the 2019 World Series?
Washington Nationals in 4 games 2 11.11%
Washington Nationals in 5 games 4 22.22%
Washington Nationals in 6 games 8 44.44%
Washington Nationals in 7 games 1 5.56%
Houston Astros in 4 games 0 0%
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Houston Astros in 6 games 2 11.11%
Houston Astros in 7 games 1 5.56%
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:06 PM   #29481
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Cheap shot from a sore loser. Guy didn't even have his hands up. How brave, I mean, what a puss...

I agree with bwdowiak. I'm sure it isn't a reflection of Indians fans, but of just a sore loser who felt the need to take it out on a outnumbered Cub fan.
Umm, no. Cubs fan was the instigator.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/03/chicag...d-out-witness/
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Old 11-04-2016, 01:06 AM   #29482
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I don't believe everything I read or see on the internet, especially from a "reliable" source such as TMZ. They sure do love to stir the pot and cause controversy, don't they? Regardless of what went down, the supposed drunk Cub fan should not have been punched. You fight to defend yourself or someone else, that's it. You don't hit a defenseless person because they hurt your feelings. This was not a fight, and it doesn't matter if this was in Cleveland, Chicago, New York, Boise, doesn't matter. It's inexcusable. Why'd the two run away afterwards? They clearly knew what they did was criminal. Both these pricks are pusses.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:03 AM   #29483
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Umm, no. Cubs fan was the instigator.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/03/chicag...d-out-witness/
I still don't like what I see in the video, but apparently the Cub fan is a 1st class schmuck.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/03/cubs-f...ot/?adid=hero1
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:50 AM   #29484
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Food for thought. The Cubs had not won a World Series since 1908... 108 years.

They won in the 10th inning while scoring 8 runs.

10-8
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Old 11-04-2016, 01:30 PM   #29485
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Umm, no. Cubs fan was the instigator.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/03/chicag...d-out-witness/
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I still don't like what I see in the video, but apparently the Cub fan is a 1st class schmuck.]
If true, that jerk was asking for it, but to punch someone with their hands down is cowardly. It's best to walk away from idiots like that. Why risk your life? You never know these days if someone is packing or has a knife. In my twenties I was quick to fight back and it didn't work out to well for me one time. Some guy confronted me, so we got into it, and before I knew it, I was getting my ass kicked by 8-9 of his friends. Nothing I could do as I was being punched and kicked on the ground. It's not worth it.

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Food for thought. The Cubs had not won a World Series since 1908... 108 years.

They won in the 10th inning while scoring 8 runs.

10-8
A baseball has 108 stitches.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:11 PM   #29486
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Indians picked up Francona's club options for 2019 and 2020

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Old 11-04-2016, 05:19 PM   #29487
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I still don't like what I see in the video, but apparently the Cub fan is a 1st class schmuck.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/03/cubs-f...ot/?adid=hero1
I had to step away from this crazy rally on tv... My God there are millions down there!!!! I did that when I was younger in 1991 for the Bulls rally and will never do it again...

Brad, as you probably know, it's no different than the thousands that are around Wrigley on a daily basis. They limit the drinking at the park, but it still doesn't help. Young, dumb and drunk is a bad combo, especially when you are at a visitors ballpark...

Lastly, the guy that punched him needs to be in jail, regardless of what the stupid Cubs fan said. It's flat-out assault and battery regardless of the words coming out of the Cubs fan's mouth...
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:55 PM   #29488
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Indians not picking up Coco Crisp's option.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:26 PM   #29489
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I had to step away from this crazy rally on tv... My God there are millions down there!!!! I did that when I was younger in 1991 for the Bulls rally and will never do it again...

Brad, as you probably know, it's no different than the thousands that are around Wrigley on a daily basis. They limit the drinking at the park, but it still doesn't help. Young, dumb and drunk is a bad combo, especially when you are at a visitors ballpark...

Lastly, the guy that punched him needs to be in jail, regardless of what the stupid Cubs fan said. It's flat-out assault and battery regardless of the words coming out of the Cubs fan's mouth...
As an attorney who has practiced criminal defense, this is a case that I would gladly take to a jury trial. No way a Cleveland jury convicts the Cleveland fan after the Cubs fan, a drunkard who has a history of harassing and stalking women, taunted the Cleveland fan about the Indians loss (immediately after said loss) and literally dared the Cleveland fan to punch the Cubs fan. Automatic jury nullification.

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Indians not picking up Coco Crisp's option.
Not surprising since the option was for $13 million. But, the Indians should definitely re-sign him if he can be had for a few million.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:47 PM   #29490
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As an attorney who has practiced criminal defense, this is a case that I would gladly take to a jury trial. No way a Cleveland jury convicts the Cleveland fan after the Cubs fan, a drunkard who has a history of harassing and stalking women, taunted the Cleveland fan about the Indians loss (immediately after said loss) and literally dared the Cleveland fan to punch the Cubs fan. Automatic jury nullification.
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Only a litigator would respond like that. I think you are missing the point. I am impressed though that you knew the Cubs fan had previous 'problems', great detective work there. You are all set to try this case...
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:44 PM   #29491
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As an attorney who has practiced criminal defense, this is a case that I would gladly take to a jury trial. No way a Cleveland jury convicts the Cleveland fan after the Cubs fan, a drunkard who has a history of harassing and stalking women, taunted the Cleveland fan about the Indians loss (immediately after said loss) and literally dared the Cleveland fan to punch the Cubs fan. Automatic jury nullification.



Not surprising since the option was for $13 million. But, the Indians should definitely re-sign him if he can be had for a few million.
Before I replied w the link about the Cubs fan being a jerk, I had already typed a reply asking you which part constitutes provocation in the "eyewitness account" link.

A taunt lead to an argument. That argument lead to the Indians fan saying "fight me." A few words (the "dare") doesn't justify getting knocked out cold and according to that account, it was the Indians fan who said something about fighting first.

If the Cub fan is a jerk than maybe he got what he was looking for, but the Indians fan did something criminal there. Theres no doubt about it.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:02 PM   #29492
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Before I replied w the link about the Cubs fan being a jerk, I had already typed a reply asking you which part constitutes provocation in the "eyewitness account" link.

A taunt lead to an argument. That argument lead to the Indians fan saying "fight me." A few words (the "dare") doesn't justify getting knocked out cold and according to that account, it was the Indians fan who said something about fighting first.

If the Cub fan is a jerk than maybe he got what he was looking for, but the Indians fan did something criminal there. Theres no doubt about it.
Juries don't always make decisions based upon the facts and evidence, they are easily swayed by emotion - even more so when the complaining witness in a criminal case is unsympathetic. The decision in the Bundy case is the latest and most glaring example of that. Whether or not the actions of the Cubs fan fit the legal definition of provocation is irrelevant in this instance.

A bench trial in this case would most likely result in a conviction. But, a jury trial in Cleveland, no way.

Of course, the Cleveland fan's attorney could always plead him out to a lesser charge before trial. But, this is a case begging to go to trial with a Cleveland jury. If you aren't familiar with the Cleveland jury pool - and, if you have never been in a Cleveland courtroom, you wouldn't be - then it isn't so easy to see why this would be a "slam dunk" case for the defense in a jury trial.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:21 PM   #29493
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:42 PM   #29495
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PM me if you'd be willing. Thanks.
What do you want to know? I've got a boat load of good Chicago tips when it comes to the Cubs and Wrigley Field.

PM me if you'd like.
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Thad Levine has been named the Twins' new vice president and general manager.
He had been working as the Rangers' assistant general manager under Jon Daniels since 2005. Levine, 44, will operate under new Twins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey, who was hired to that post in September at age 33. It's a completely fresh look for the Minnesota front office, which is trying to emerge out of the stone age ahead of the 2017 baseball season.
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The architect of the Braves dynasty, GM John Scheurholz, will be inducted into the Hall of Fame next summer. He joins Bobby Cox, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz to be the 5th member of the 90s Braves to make the HOF, with Chipper Jones close behind.
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The architect of the Braves dynasty, GM John Scheurholz, will be inducted into the Hall of Fame next summer. He joins Bobby Cox, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz to be the 5th member of the 90s Braves to make the HOF, with Chipper Jones close behind.
Glad he made it. Well deserved.

Bud Selig on the other hand...
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Lol @ Harper wanting 10 year, $400M deal. Get out of here.

Encarnacion is supposedly in serious talks with Cleveland - WOW!!
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