2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Goldensuitcase

You guys act as if this isn't the way it should be. There is a reason the AL has the DH. Their offensive production was so putrid years ago, they needed more runs.

You AL fans knock the NL as if they are nothing yet they have won the world series four out of the last eight years.

And come on, you can't tell me a St. Louis or Philadelphia team does not scare the crap out of any team. Those teams, with their pitching, closers and lineups are very comparable to the Yankees, the Red Sox and the Angels.

And yes, I am biased. I am a METS fan. And 2010 couldn't come soon enough.

Ha! Sorry, big time AL guy here... but I do respect the everything about the NL other than the pitcher batting hehe

[TheForce8686]

Originally Posted by Goldensuitcase

You guys act as if this isn't the way it should be. There is a reason the AL has the DH. Their offensive production was so putrid years ago, they needed more runs.

You AL fans knock the NL as if they are nothing yet they have won the world series four out of the last eight years.

And come on, you can't tell me a St. Louis or Philadelphia team does not scare the crap out of any team. Those teams, with their pitching, closers and lineups are very comparable to the Yankees, the Red Sox and the Angels.

And yes, I am biased. I am a METS fan. And 2010 couldn't come soon enough.

You know 7 of the top 9 offenses are American league teams and the Cardinals are 16th. World Series titles go 11 -7 in favor the American league since 1990 and then there is the whole All star game thing.

[Goldensuitcase]

Originally Posted by TheForce8686

You know 7 of the top 9 offenses are American league teams and the Cardinals are 16th. World Series titles go 11 -7 in favor the American league since 1990 and then there is the whole All star game thing.

Let's be fair. The All-Star game thing is a joke. Of course, it shows the AL is better, but to base such a meaningless game on anything is ridiculous.

It's clear, the AL has an advantage, but how is that not a given? They have an extra hitter who doesn't have to play any position and a pitcher doesn't hvae to hit. It's comletely different.

Regardless of the league, a Carpenter/Wainwright or Lee/Hamels duo is better than a Sabathia/Burnett.

[TheForce8686]

Originally Posted by Goldensuitcase

Let's be fair. The All-Star game thing is a joke. Of course, it shows the AL is better, but to base such a meaningless game on anything is ridiculous.

It's clear, the AL has an advantage, but how is that not a given? They have an extra hitter who doesn't have to play any position and a pitcher doesn't hvae to hit. It's comletely different.

Regardless of the league, a Carpenter/Wainwright or Lee/Hamels duo is better than a Sabathia/Burnett.

I dont think the pitching is that far off (especially since I think Petitte is the game 2 starter in a series for the Yanks) and the Offense more then makes up the difference. I understand the Pitcher/DH difference but the Yankees have more than 100 runs scored then the Cards and for only one more hitter that still is a lot. We can opinionate back and forth all we want but it wont matter till we see it played out in October.

[Jellybeans]

I have a feeling Yankees win lose today!

[Jellybeans]

Yankees lost today against Jays!

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

Yankees lost today against Jays!

Welcome back to Toronto Josh Tee-Ball Towers... the same guy who beaned A-Rod a couple years back and got in a fight with Tony Pena(Yanks Bench Coach), called him a quitter for leaving the Royals... funny how things work out in life hehe.

[Clark Kent]

The last week has pretty much finished my Braves from contention for the wild card. The offense has gone stone cold, with Chipper looking like a shell of his former self. His batspeed from the left side is non-existent. If he is not injured, this is the beginning of the end for his career.

[Jellybeans]

Originally Posted by hc666

Welcome back to Toronto Josh Tee-Ball Towers... the same guy who beaned A-Rod a couple years back and got in a fight with Tony Pena(Yanks Bench Coach), called him a quitter for leaving the Royals... funny how things work out in life hehe.

I did predict they would lose! I had a gut feeling about it!

Yankees will win tomorrow!

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

I did predict they would lose! I had a gut feeling about it!

Yankees will win tomorrow!

Was a wild one... glad to see that Randy Ruiz was ok after taking the pitch in the face from Josh Towers.

Funny that Rios is batting .170ish with the White Sox with 1 HR while his replacement Mr Ruiz is batting .300 with 6 monster HR in only a hand full of games. I hope we have found our scary DH for next season! It's been awhile since we had a monster like him who could actually hit.

[Jellybeans]

Yanks win both games in Double-Header

[Louisville Slugger]

[sfmarine]

It was a great game. Swisher also adds a great vibe to the team. He cherishes every moment in pinstripes.

[toef]

I mostly like Swisher.... probably like 95% of the time or something. But I buy into all the Yankee-tradition stuff, and once in a while he does something that seems more like he's still on a college team, or playing in Oakland. For the most part though, he seems like a great addition to the team, and the clubhouse.

That being said, his walk-off HR last night had to be one of the weakest/cheapest home runs I've ever seen.

Edit: Remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzxLArgdZSU

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by toefer

I mostly like Swisher.... probably like 95% of the time or something. But I buy into all the Yankee-tradition stuff, and once in a while he does something that seems more like he's still on a college team, or playing in Oakland. For the most part though, he seems like a great addition to the team, and the clubhouse.

That being said, his walk-off HR last night had to be one of the weakest/cheapest home runs I've ever seen.

Edit: Remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzxLArgdZSU

haha ya...he's like a kid but you can't blame him. Everyday he's living my dream. He replaced Shelley Duncan for the most part. He brought a lot of energy to the club as well.

How 'bout Jeter tying the Iron Horse? It's amazing but he's got another 10 years lol. He'll certainly bypass Pete Rose.

[toef]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

haha ya...he's like a kid but you can't blame him. Everyday he's living my dream. He replaced Shelley Duncan for the most part. He brought a lot of energy to the club as well.

How 'bout Jeter tying the Iron Horse? It's amazing but he's got another 10 years lol. He'll certainly bypass Pete Rose.

Haha. I'm not a big Jeter fan, for whatever reason. Just something about him that annoys me, I guess. It might be his funny haircut, or maybe his stoic, no-fun "I'm a statue" demeanor.

It's certainly a big achievement, but in no way does it mean he's better than ol' Lou.

Jeter tied Lou for hits, despite playing in 50 fewer games, but that sort of masks the real truth.

Jeter has been a leadoff hitter for most of his career, and has averaged about 0.5 more at-bats per game than Gehrig. That might not seem like much, but that's 80 extra at-bats per year, multiplied by 15 years or so, and suddenly it seems huge.

So anyway, I don't mean to attack Jeter, because he's certainly a lock for the HoF, but I wonder if even he would think of himself as being in the same league as Gehrig (and based on how humble he's seemed in the past, I doubt he does).

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

He'll certainly bypass Pete Rose.

That's a stretch -- not impossible, but not very likely either.

Derek has been pretty healthy throughout his career. I think him and Ichiro have a legitimate chance to reach Pete Rose's 4,256 all-time career hits record. Right now Jeter has 2,721 career hits throughout 2,119 games. Therefore he needs 1,535 more hits to tie Pete Rose’s record. Jeter has averaged about 142 games throughout 14 seasons.

(4,256 hits – 2,721 hits) / (2,721 hits / 2,119 games) / (1,985 games / 14 seasons) equals about 8.43 seasons or about 8 seasons and 70 games to reach 4,256 hits.

A big IF, but if Jeter puts up career type numbers for the next 8 plus seasons and stays healthy he has a legitimate chance at Pete Rose's record.

Ichiro on the other hand:

(4,256 hits – 2,000 hits) / (2,000 hits / 1,403 games) / (1,280 games / 8 seasons) equals about 9.89 seasons or 9 seasons and 144 games. Ichiro is also 35 and would basically have to stay healthy and continue to put up career numbers for about another 10 years until he reaches 45.

Thing about Ichiro is he has 1,278 hits when he played in Japan. If only he came to the US in 1993 instead of 2001. If he played his career in the US he would easily have over 3,000 hits by now.

Only time will tell, and I do think 3,000 plus hits for both players is more likely than 4,000, but who knows. I definitely think they’re both Hall of Fame material.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

A big IF, but if Jeter puts up career type numbers for the next 8 plus seasons and stays healthy he has a legitimate chance at Pete Rose's record.

I wouldn't mind seeing him do it... One of the select few yankees I like (bought about 4 of his autos ) But you are right, I'd really be impressed if he kept his pace up for 5 more years, but 8+ I doubt it especially at lead off in the AL East.

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I wouldn't mind seeing him do it... One of the select few yankees I like (bought about 4 of his autos ) But you are right, I'd really be impressed if he kept his pace up for 5 more years, but 8+ I doubt it especially at lead off in the AL East.

I am just happy I am witnessing history! I am so glad I get to see guys like Jeter play.

Jeter needs about 1.53 seasons to reach 3,000 hits. (Age: 36)
Jeter needs about 4.28 seasons to reach 3,500 hits. (Age: 39)
Jeter needs about 7.02 seasons to reach 4,000 hits. (Age: 42)

Again ASSUMING he stays healthy and puts up career numbers.

Ichiro needs about 4.38 seasons to reach 3,000 hits. (Age: 39)
Ichiro needs about 6.57 seasons to reach 3,500 hits. (Age: 41)
Ichiro needs about 8.77 seasons to reach 4,000 hits. (Age: 43)

Again ASSUMING he stays healthy and puts up career numbers.

Oh, and I think after today his autograph definitely went up in value,

[toef]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

Only time will tell, and I do think 3,000 plus hits for both players is more likely than 4,000, but who knows. I definitely think they’re both Hall of Fame material.

Well basic math says that 3,000 hits is more likely than 4,000.

I agree though. 4,000 is a long shot for Jeter, but it certainly can't be ruled out yet.

I agree about Ichiro too. Kind of a shame he didn't get here sooner.

But I'm not sure Jeter's autograph would suddenly be going up, because people saw this coming a long time ago.

The one weird thing about Jeter is that people, for some reason, don't think he can play much longer. Maybe 3-4 more seasons, if he's lucky, and 5-6 if he's really lucky.

Yet A-Rod is under contract with the Yankees through the 2017 season (that's 8 more season after this year, for those counting at home... though to be fair, he is a whopping 1 year younger than Jeter).

I guess the argument might be that Jeter and A-Rod will both have to DH at the end of their careers, and if the Yankees can only pick one, it seems like they'd take the prideful-power-production glamour man over the humbled hit-for-average captain.

Whatever.

I hope one day Posada becomes the Yankee skipper.