2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

It's roughly triple the payroll. And oddly enough triple is about the same gap between top and bottom payroll teams these days.

Inflation?

[sycro]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Inflation?

That's one hell of an inflation.

The actual inflation rate would only put the salary at around 75 million.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Inflation?

I imagine that's part of it. A very small part though. Inflation hasn't been anywhere close to that high. I have trouble figuring out how teams are operating on triple the payroll and still making a profit. These teams can't be raking in triple what they did barely a decade and a half ago.

When did the luxury tax and revenue sharing start? I suppose that's how the lower level teams stay profitable. The Yankees (and to a lesser extent other big market teams) payroll exploding over that period probably caused some trickle-down effect.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sycro

That's one hell of an inflation.

The actual inflation rate would only put the salary at around 75 million.

Here's some depressing deflation...

Braves 2012 payroll - $ 83,309,942
Braves 2003 payroll - $ 106,243,667 (Our peak team payroll)

This is what happens when you go from a great owner who cares about winning to a bunch of money-grubbing d-bags.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I imagine that's part of it. A very small part though. Inflation hasn't been anywhere close to that high. I have trouble figuring out how teams are operating on triple the payroll and still making a profit. These teams can't be raking in triple what they did barely a decade and a half ago.

When did the luxury tax and revenue sharing start? I suppose that's how the lower level teams stay profitable. The Yankees (and to a lesser extent other big market teams) payroll exploding over that period probably caused some trickle-down effect.

TV contracts have also exploded during this time, largely because of companies like ESPN showing how much you can charge for sports.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Here's some depressing deflation...

Braves 2012 payroll - $ 83,309,942
Braves 2003 payroll - $ 106,243,667 (Our peak team payroll)

This is what happens when you go from a great owner who cares about winning to a bunch of money-grubbing d-bags.

I'm sure they'll be selling it off in the next few years. Their tax benefit ends this year.

[Wingman1977]

We beat The Rays and The Jays beat the O's. We back in 1st alone (1 game).

[Navster]

Dbacks pitcher Cahill has not allowed a hit through 6, Giants can't get anything going

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

The funny thing is that the majority of the people at the game are Yankee fans. The Rays should move to a state a little further north (like North Carolina to the city of Charlotte).

That's why I rooted r the phillies in that rays world series as much as I despise Philly seeing all those clappers and cow bells they had in the packed rays stadium just gave me the wrong vibe cause you knew they were all bandwagoners. And then they price hiked season tickets on guys like dick vitale who was going to like every game lol

[hakstone]

Why is it, every year, when the penant race gets hot and the boston/yankee fans start to sweat, the subject is about the rays fans. Last time I checked, a teams win/lose record decided things, not fan attendance.

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Here's some depressing deflation...

Braves 2012 payroll - $ 83,309,942
Braves 2003 payroll - $ 106,243,667 (Our peak team payroll)

This is what happens when you go from a great owner who cares about winning to a bunch of money-grubbing d-bags.

And $106,243,667 is about $132,287,223 in today's dollars.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by sycro

TV contracts have also exploded during this time, largely because of companies like ESPN showing how much you can charge for sports.

Sadly this is it right here, its also a very big reason TV costs for the consumer have risen. Rising ticket prices and MLBPA have also screwed the fans and the game. MLB seriously needs a hard cap like the NFL and NHL it is the only way that things will stop getting out of control and back to normal. There is no reason anyone in MLB should be making 200 million plus for a kids game.

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[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Its' not even that. I'm a Girardi fan but it's just would just be time for a change (Tony Pena?). What really kills me is that the offense doesn't even try to play small ball or manufacture a run. What what has me pulling my hair out.

and i blame the whole no small ball on Girardi..guy has no balls...i wanted Mattingly but yea, we need a change

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

We beat The Rays and The Jays beat the O's. We back in 1st alone (1 game).

and got a 4 game series against the O's starting tonight.... im excited

Originally Posted by hakstone

Why is it, every year, when the penant race gets hot and the boston/yankee fans start to sweat, the subject is about the rays fans. Last time I checked, a teams win/lose record decided things, not fan attendance.

maybe becuase the yankees JUST played the Rays, therefore its relevant??? its just an observation, which is true

[sycro]

Back-to-back 1-0 wins for the Braves over the Rockies! First time the Braves have done the back-to-back 1-0 wins since 1971!

Also, the Braves only run in both games were scored on errors.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

and i blame the whole no small ball on Girardi..guy has no balls...i wanted Mattingly but yea, we need a change



and got a 4 game series against the O's starting tonight.... im excited



maybe becuase the yankees JUST played the Rays, therefore its relevant??? its just an observation, which is true

We need to take at least 3 out of 4 from the O's.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

We need to take at least 3 out of 4 from the O's.

I'd be happy with a split.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sycro

Back-to-back 1-0 wins for the Braves over the Rockies! First time the Braves have done the back-to-back 1-0 wins since 1971!

Also, the Braves only run in both games were scored on errors.

I'm shocked that didn't happen in the 1990's. Probably because our awful relief pitching would blow those 1-0 games.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

I'd be happy with a split.

Then we'd leave still with a 1 game lead. Not good enough. We need to put some distance from them.

[Hatter]

Back to back 1-0 wins (via an unearned run both times) by the Braves.

Must be a first for that to happen.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I'm shocked that didn't happen in the 1990's. Probably because our awful relief pitching would blow those 1-0 games.

Probably also had to do with only scoring 1 run twice in a row.