2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Navster]

Barry Zito with arguably the best performance of his career and it couldn't come at a better time, I will never say another bad thing about you .... Back to SF, one game at a time

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I was looking around at all-time franchise records and came across this. Franchises with the most Hall of Famers. Here are the top 16 teams, founded in 1901 or earlier before the expansion era. These numbers do include HOF'ers from all cities the franchises played in. The Twins were the Washington Senators from 1901-1960. I was a little surprised the Yankees were that low and the Giants easily #1. Not a lot of correlation between HOF'ers and championships won as the teams at #4, 5 and 8 on this list have the most championships.

1. Giants - 55
2. Dodgers - 46
3. Braves - 45
4. Yankees - 44
5. Cardinals - 42
6. Cubs - 41
7. Pirates - 38
8. Athletics - 36
9. Red Sox - 34
10. Reds - 34
11. Phillies - 32
12. Indians - 31
13. Orioles - 28
14. White Sox - 27
15. Twins - 23
16. Tigers - 21

You can add Jeter and Mariano to the Yankees total.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Navster

Barry Zito with arguably the best performance of his career and it couldn't come at a better time, I will never say another bad thing about you .... Back to SF, one game at a time

Ya, sure you won't. Until he goes back to sucking next season. You've paid him $99 mill so far for a 58-69 record with a 4.47 ERA.

[filmnut5]

Originally Posted by Navster

Barry Zito with arguably the best performance of his career and it couldn't come at a better time, I will never say another bad thing about you .... Back to SF, one game at a time

ZITES = .....


GO GIANTS.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

You can add Jeter and Mariano to the Yankees total.

Yankees definitely have a few coming. I've always thought Posada deserved consideration too, but I doubt he'll make it. Now that Ichiro is a Yankee he'd count as another. I really don't see Ichiro not making the HOF despite playing so many years in Japan.

Braves should have Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and Chipper in the not too distant future.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I was looking around at all-time franchise records and came across this. Franchises with the most Hall of Famers. Here are the top 16 teams, founded in 1901 or earlier before the expansion era. These numbers do include HOF'ers from all cities the franchises played in. The Twins were the Washington Senators from 1901-1960. I was a little surprised the Yankees were that low and the Giants easily #1. Not a lot of correlation between HOF'ers and championships won as the teams at #4, 5 and 8 on this list have the most championships.

1. Giants - 55
2. Dodgers - 46
3. Braves - 45
4. Yankees - 44
5. Cardinals - 42
6. Cubs - 41
7. Pirates - 38
8. Athletics - 36
9. Red Sox - 34
10. Reds - 34
11. Phillies - 32
12. Indians - 31
13. Orioles - 28
14. White Sox - 27
15. Twins - 23
16. Tigers - 21

I wonder what percentage of these players had lengthy times with a club. For instance, 14 players (Dan Brothers, Cy Young, Ed Walsh, Rogers Hornsby, Burleigh Grimes, Babe Ruth, Al Simmons, Earl Averill, Lloyd Waner, Ernie Lombardi, Joe Medwick, Billy Herman, Enos Slaughter, Gaylord Perry) count for the Braves, despite playing 1 season (or less) with the team. There's a lot more if you up it to 3 years.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Yankees definitely have a few coming. I've always thought Posada deserved consideration too, but I doubt he'll make it. Now that Ichiro is a Yankee he'd count as another. I really don't see Ichiro not making the HOF despite playing so many years in Japan.

Braves should have Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and Chipper in the not too distant future.

And Cox and Schuerholz. And possibly Mazzone.

Plus Torre [though he'd enter as a manager]

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sycro

I wonder what percentage of these players had lengthy times with a club. For instance, 14 players (Dan Brothers, Cy Young, Ed Walsh, Rogers Hornsby, Burleigh Grimes, Babe Ruth, Al Simmons, Earl Averill, Lloyd Waner, Ernie Lombardi, Joe Medwick, Billy Herman, Enos Slaughter, Gaylord Perry) count for the Braves, despite playing 1 season (or less) with the team. There's a lot more if you up it to 3 years.

Ya, that I was unable to find so it's hard to say. A lot of these guys were bums by the time they played one of two final seasons with some other team. Need I mention the obvious - old man Willie Mays stumbling around the field in his final years with the Mets.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sycro

And Cox and Schuerholz. And possibly Mazzone.

Plus Torre [though he'd enter as a manager]

Good call. That list does include managers too. And Torre did manage the Braves, along with Yankees and Dodgers. I think Cox only managed the Braves and Jays.

Do many GM's make the HOF? Can't really think of many. I believe Branch Rickey is in as a GM.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Good call. That list does include managers too. And Torre did manage the Braves, along with Yankees and Dodgers. I think Cox only managed the Braves and Jays.

I had forgotten about Torre managing the Braves. I was referring to his playing career (first HR in Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium).

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by sycro

I had forgotten about Torre managing the Braves. I was referring to his playing career (first HR in Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium).

Torre was a pretty good player too. He actually won an NL MVP in his monster 1971 season. Somehow he played 18 seasons and never played a single playoff game in his career, yet as a manager he coached a ton of playoff games.

[walruswarrior]

This is what I've found. 295 members. 45 do not have a team associated with their plaques. They then break down the remaining 250 members. http://sportslistoftheday.com/2011/0...-most-members/

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

This is what I've found. 295 members. 45 do not have a team associated with their plaques. They then break down the remaining 250 members. http://sportslistoftheday.com/2011/0...-most-members/

Does MLB give players a choice of which team is on their plaque? I'm thinking they still don't. I know Wade Boggs wanted to go into the HOF as a Tampa Bay Ray even though he played barely 2 seasons there.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Does MLB give players a choice of which team is on their plaque? I'm thinking they still don't. I know Wade Boggs wanted to go into the HOF as a Tampa Bay Ray even though he played barely 2 seasons there.

I don't think they have a final say in the matter, but I think they get a little input into it.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Does MLB give players a choice of which team is on their plaque? I'm thinking they still don't. I know Wade Boggs wanted to go into the HOF as a Tampa Bay Ray even though he played barely 2 seasons there.

They used to. The only people with no team affiliation are executives, umpires, some Negro League players and... Catfish Hunter. Hunter liked both the Yankees and A's and didn't want to choose between them, so he chose neither.

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[supersix4]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I was looking around at all-time franchise records and came across this. Franchises with the most Hall of Famers. Here are the top 16 teams, founded in 1901 or earlier before the expansion era. These numbers do include HOF'ers from all cities the franchises played in. The Twins were the Washington Senators from 1901-1960. I was a little surprised the Yankees were that low and the Giants easily #1. Not a lot of correlation between HOF'ers and championships won as the teams at #4, 5 and 8 on this list have the most championships.

I'm not. Giants were founded in like 1883, O's in 1890 something, and the yanks weren't founded till the 1900s.

[filmnut5]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I was looking around at all-time franchise records and came across this. Franchises with the most Hall of Famers. Here are the top 16 teams, founded in 1901 or earlier before the expansion era. These numbers do include HOF'ers from all cities the franchises played in. The Twins were the Washington Senators from 1901-1960. I was a little surprised the Yankees were that low and the Giants easily #1. Not a lot of correlation between HOF'ers and championships won as the teams at #4, 5 and 8 on this list have the most championships.

1. Giants - 55
2. Dodgers - 46
3. Braves - 45
4. Yankees - 44
5. Cardinals - 42
6. Cubs - 41
7. Pirates - 38
8. Athletics - 36
9. Red Sox - 34
10. Reds - 34
11. Phillies - 32
12. Indians - 31
13. Orioles - 28
14. White Sox - 27
15. Twins - 23
16. Tigers - 21

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[StereoMike]

Originally Posted by Navster

Barry Zito with arguably the best performance of his career and it couldn't come at a better time, I will never say another bad thing about you .... Back to SF, one game at a time

If you guys end up winning the NLCS, Zito's contract would be worth it.

[StereoMike]

Originally Posted by filmnut5

17. Blue Jays - 1

Originally Posted by filmnut5

17. Blue Jays - 1

Originally Posted by filmnut5

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[filmnut5]

Originally Posted by StereoMike

...fixed.