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View Poll Results: Which team will win the 2019 World Series?
Washington Nationals in 4 games 2 11.11%
Washington Nationals in 5 games 4 22.22%
Washington Nationals in 6 games 8 44.44%
Washington Nationals in 7 games 1 5.56%
Houston Astros in 4 games 0 0%
Houston Astros in 5 games 0 0%
Houston Astros in 6 games 2 11.11%
Houston Astros in 7 games 1 5.56%
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:13 PM   #19301
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No, people who view Pujols as a bad deal are saying that 8 years from now he won't be worth anywhere near the money he is going to be paid.

Hell, 3 years from now it'll be dubious. In 8 years it's almost a certainty to be a terrible deal.
Baseball is a sport where you almost always pay for what guys have done. But I still don't think the Angels have a horrible deal with Pujols. But we won't know until at least 5 or 6 years down the road.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:16 PM   #19302
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No, people who view Pujols as a bad deal are saying that 8 years from now he won't be worth anywhere near the money he is going to be paid.

Hell, 3 years from now it'll be dubious. In 8 years it's almost a certainty to be a terrible deal.
yeah but if im correct then there is an out clause in his contract where the money isnt guaranteed same with the deal Prince signed last year.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:16 PM   #19303
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Baseball is a sport where you almost always pay for what guys have done. But I still don't think the Angels have a horrible deal with Pujols. But we won't know until at least 5 or 6 years down the road.
Paying for what guys have done is what's wrong with the sport. It's what results in people at the tail end of their careers destroying a team for a couple years while they have no choice but to sit out dreadfully bad contracts.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:20 PM   #19304
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yeah but if im correct then there is an out clause in his contract where the money isnt guaranteed same with the deal Prince signed last year.
Reporters have said the opposite, there are no out-clauses at all. It's even got an incentive clause to pay him more if he's an Angel for 10 years AND a no trade clause, to guarantee Pujols can jack with the Angels as much as he wants to.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:13 PM   #19305
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I can't really fault the guy when the Rangers were offering $80 million and the Angels gave him $125 million. He wanted to stay in Texas, but that's too much money to leave on the table.
Leaving money on the table will certainly be much harder to avoid doing now that he will be living in LA if you catch my drift.

Last year was one the best worst seasons ever. The way he played in the second half was brutal especially in the field.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:16 PM   #19306
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So the Angels have $365 mill tied up in just Pujols and Hamilton alone
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:31 PM   #19307
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Damn two years in a row the Angels shock the baseball world. It's the battle of the LA billionaires.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:38 PM   #19308
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Damn two years in a row the Angels shock the baseball world. It's the battle of the LA billionaires.
All so cal World Series?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:39 PM   #19309
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:41 PM   #19310
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San Diego is making the World Series?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:46 PM   #19311
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The Hamilton contract is a good one. If he doesn't have a bad two months at the end of the season, he likely ends up with a contract over $200 million from someone. You can rarely sign a free agent capable of winning multiple MVPs for only five years. He was the fifth or sixth best offensive player in the American League last year, slump included. His WAR is only so low because it didn't really like his defense last year.

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Old 12-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #19312
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Sanchez to Cubs?

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Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Cubs have agreed to sign free agent right-hander Anibal Sanchez.

Another Hot Stove stunner on this Thursday afternoon. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports hears that the deal could be worth $75 million over five years. It's a pretty shocking destination, as the Cubs are just getting started on a serious rebuilding effort. Sanchez turns 29 in February and owns a 3.75 ERA over seven seasons in the majors.

Source: Bob Nightengale on Twitter
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:57 PM   #19313
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So does this mean the #1-4 in the Angels lineup is likely to be: Trout/Hunter/Pujols/Hamilton?
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:08 PM   #19314
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Hunter is gone to the Tigers I believe. He was *****ing on twitter today claiming the Angels told him they didn't have the money to sign him.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:00 AM   #19315
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Hunter is gone to the Tigers I believe. He was *****ing on twitter today claiming the Angels told him they didn't have the money to sign him.
LOL, I saw that. Love Torii, he has been my favorite player since he signed with the Angels. But he had a great run, and the Angels going to do what they got to do.


Ive always hated the Yankees for what feels like buying World Series.
But now that it could happen to my team, all I can say now is......


GO ANGELS!!!


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Old 12-14-2012, 12:42 AM   #19316
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San Diego is making the World Series?


Didn't see this coming at all with Hamilton. It should make for an interesting season. I just hope the Angels make the playoffs this year.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:32 AM   #19317
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I wonder what stipulations are included in this deal related to drug use. Surely the Angels didn't make this deal without something along those lines in Hamilton's contract.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:20 AM   #19318
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I wonder what stipulations are included in this deal related to drug use. Surely the Angels didn't make this deal without something along those lines in Hamilton's contract.
Per the MLBPA's rules in their agreement with MLB, those type of clauses are not allowed in a contract. Teams would be putting them in with every single contract if they could do that type of clause. There used to be morals clauses, but that is almost always interpreted as the player going out and committing murder or something of that nature.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:24 AM   #19319
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Per the MLBPA's rules in their agreement with MLB, those type of clauses are not allowed in a contract. Teams would be putting them in with every single contract if they could do that type of clause. There used to be morals clauses, but that is almost always interpreted as the player going out and committing murder or something of that nature.
Then they could just go the Jerry Jones method and assign Hamilton a babysitter around the clock. It seems silly for a grownup to need such a thing but with high dollar athletes with past problems it's making more and more sense.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:32 AM   #19320
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Then they could just go the Jerry Jones method and assign Hamilton a babysitter around the clock. It seems silly for a grownup to need such a thing but with high dollar athletes with past problems it's making more and more sense.
CJ Wilson was one of Josh's best friends on the Rangers. The Rangers better trade for a big bat or they are going to finish in third place this year. Overlooked in the wake of Hamilton's second-half collapse was Ian Kinsler, who played almost as bad.
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