Marvel's Doctor Strange (2016)

[GC Riot]

Pretty standard Marvel fare, but a bit better thanks to solid acting and eye-catching visuals. One of the better entries as of late, but it really doesn't do anything to reignite any excitement for the MCU at large for me.
Strong 3/5.

[beadelf]

was worth a one off watch but not great. dissapointed its all getting a bit stale.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by bell_packet

[Show spoiler]It's hard to say because I'm not sure there's any way to really tell the exact time period it starts in. We see the new Avengers tower sporting the "A" (instead of STARK like at the beginning of TA), so obviously it's after then, but there would've needed to be time to repair it to the state it's in, since it did get a bit wrecked in The Avengers.

And upon further thought, it would only have to be set sometime after IM2 (which we know it is) in order for the patient he was told about to be the Hammer guy, because he wouldn't have necessarily been told straight after it happened, it could've been any time after when it occurred.

I'm seeing it again today though, so I'll try to suss out if there's any more indicators about when it starts and the period of time over which it takes place, because it does make sense to me it was years, but I don't recall anything pointing to that the first time I saw it. But it can be hard to see that level of detail on the first watch, and I always pick stuff up on other viewings, and I don't think this will be any exception.

true

my conclusion on 2nd viewing was that

[Show spoiler]he;s referring to the Hammer guy in the suit. Taking to account we're talking months between Iron Man 2 and the Stark Tower re-build

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Cant see Stark allowing it to take that long.

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by bell_packet

Well after all that, I just got back from my second showing and

[Show spoiler]I saw an award in Strange's cabinet that's dated 2016 when he's taking his watch out before the accident. So it actually takes place this year, unless there's some sort of award he won for a future year. Although maybe this particular film takes place in the near future after that point, to account for the time it would take for Strange to go through operations and then become a sorcerer?

And listening to the description of the person with the crushed spine or whatever, they're said to be 35, which completely rules out Rhodey (if he was ever an option) because he's around 15 years north of that age.

Saw it in IMAX again and I'm glad Marvel has a good track record so far of releasing their films on BD with the opened up ratio, because this is definitely the best way to watch it, especially with over half the movie taking place in 1.90. I'm going to see it a few more times, but it just won't be the same in non-IMAX imo.

That award date throw's my theory out the window then...

[Show spoiler]but means that he had all his surgeries, travel and trained in what, 10 months?

[yeslek]

Originally Posted by spectre08

Every time a Marvel movie comes out we get to hate europeans for 2 weeks.

I hate you all right now.

two weeks?
I thought we just got it a week early.....

[partridge]

Good fun, great visuals, some very clever set pieces, but it felt like it was a case of "we need to do the origin story to introduce and establish this new piece of the Marvel universe, but what we really want to do is crack on with the next one!"

I'd put this on par with the first Thor film; necessary, but won't be looked on as the best for that character.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by spectre08

maybe for DC, if they keep down the path they've been going with Snyder.

Marvel has a formula that works though, and it's unlikely that that is going to change.

Watch. Before Infinity Wars comes out Marvel will announce the movies that will come after it, people will get excited about those, and Infinity Wars will be just another stop on the road. Just like Avengers was. Just like Age of Ultron was.

Marvel won't be able to go any bigger than Infinity War. Audiences will stick around for a few years afterwards just riding the goodwill of IW, but it'll be the beginning of the end, unless they're able to work something out with Fox to get those characters into The Avengers (Galactus would be a big enough villain to make the post-Thanos MCU work). DC might be over if next year's Justice League clunks, but if they manage to right the ship I still don't see them lasting much longer than the JL sequel.

[Mr. Mojo]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

DC might be over if next year's Justice League clunks, but if they manage to right the ship I still don't see them lasting much longer than the JL sequel.

DC's first three movies made over $800 million more than Marvel's first three films. At this point, they are in a substantially better place than Marvel was, despite the bias media and ignorant critics. Add to that Wonder Woman looks to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, film of next summer, and DC is rollicking on positioned to have a big year next year.

Marvel has three films out next year, only one of which I can see outpacing its predecessors (Guardians). I doubt that the new Spidey does much better than the first Amazing film or that anyone really gives a shit about Thor after the last mediocrity baring the label of "Thor". Marvel, right now, is on the way down. Grosses are going down and interest is waning because they are unable to offer anything unique beyond the typical Marvel formula, whereas each DC film has its own identity and isn't content to simply uphold the status quo that Marvel has sadly established in this genre.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo

DC's first three movies made over $800 million more than Marvel's first three films. At this point, they are in a substantially better place than Marvel was, despite the bias media and ignorant critics. Add to that Wonder Woman looks to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, film of next summer, and DC is rollicking on positioned to have a big year next year.

Marvel has three films out next year, only one of which I can see outpacing its predecessors (Guardians). I doubt that the new Spidey does much better than the first Amazing film or that anyone really gives a shit about Thor after the last mediocrity baring the label of "Thor". Marvel, right now, is on the way down. Grosses are going down and interest is waning because they are unable to offer anything unique beyond the typical Marvel formula, whereas each DC film has its own identity and isn't content to simply uphold the status quo that Marvel has sadly established in this genre.

I'm a DC fan, so I'm rooting for them. Financially I know they're doing fine, but the movies have been more polarizing than they arguably should've been so early in the game. Marvel may be more vanilla but they knew how to draw people in first before hitting them with the weird stuff. In any case, even if JL does well financially, its critical/audience reception will be more interesting to watch. And then there's WW before, but I think that'll do fine.

[Spirit Zero]

DOCTOR STRANGE - Non Spoiler Review (Podcast) - YouTube

[NARMAK]

Dr Strange apparently takes place between Iron Man 2 and after Ultron.

The movie though unfortunately doesn't convey the sense of time well visually or through the use of time cues.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

Dr Strange apparently takes place between Iron Man 2 and after Ultron.

The movie though unfortunately doesn't convey the sense of time well visually or through the use of time cues.

Not true, the Avengers tower from Age of Ultron is seen in the first five minutes.

[partridge]

@mrmojo Could you show you pro DC and anti Marvel feelings a little clearer please, it's just not coming across...

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by partridge

@mrmojo Could you show you pro DC and anti Marvel feelings a little clearer please, it's just not coming across...

Come on, he was pretty quiet for the last few days.

[spectre08]

I can't write of DC entirely yet. Suicide Squad was excellent, and showed a lot of promise. Best of all it showed what's possible when you push Snyder out of the way. I sincerely hope that Wonder Woman just absolutely crushes it with fans and at the box office, and Warner green lights more non-Snyder DC movies.

DC has great characters, great stories, and loads of possibility that are all being wasted by letting Snyder dominate the show.

[partridge]

And there's me thinking this was the Doctor Strange thread...

Now I remember why I don't bother with the movie section

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by partridge

And there's me thinking this was the Doctor Strange thread...

Now I remember why I don't bother with the movie section

I'm just pissed that you folks across the ocean already got to see this, and us yanks are stuck twiddling our thumbs.

[GP Legend]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo

DC's first three movies made over $800 million more than Marvel's first three films. At this point, they are in a substantially better place than Marvel was, despite the bias media and ignorant critics. Add to that Wonder Woman looks to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, film of next summer, and DC is rollicking on positioned to have a big year next year.

Marvel has three films out next year, only one of which I can see outpacing its predecessors (Guardians). I doubt that the new Spidey does much better than the first Amazing film or that anyone really gives a shit about Thor after the last mediocrity baring the label of "Thor". Marvel, right now, is on the way down. Grosses are going down and interest is waning because they are unable to offer anything unique beyond the typical Marvel formula, whereas each DC film has its own identity and isn't content to simply uphold the status quo that Marvel has sadly established in this genre.

Unlike Marvel, DC started off with their big hitters. No, DC doesn't really have its own identity, unless simply being "Not Marvel" is considered an identity. It hasn't transcended anything in the superhero genre, contrary to what fanboys like to say. The general audience doesn't care about this Marvel vs. DC stuff. These DC movies are just simply more comic book movies being added onto the pile. If Marvel goes down, then DC goes down whether you like it or not.

But please, keep squirming. It is quite evident you are just simply jealous that Dr. Strange is getting positive reviews overall.

[Mr. Mojo]

Originally Posted by GP Legend

Unlike Marvel, DC started off with their big hitters. No, DC doesn't really have its own identity, unless simply being "Not Marvel" is considered an identity. It hasn't transcended anything in the superhero genre, contrary to what fanboys like to say. The general audience doesn't care about this Marvel vs. DC stuff. These DC movies are just simply more comic book movies being added onto the pile. If Marvel goes down, then DC goes down whether you like it or not.

But please, keep squirming. It is quite evident you are just simply jealous that Dr. Strange is getting positive reviews overall.

Suicide Squad are big hitters? Aside from Joker, none of the characters were terribly popular in the mainstream and Suicide Squad made Harley Quinn mainstream too. And yet that movie was more successful than any Marvel movie outside of Avengers, Ultron, Iron Man 3, and Civil War, even without a release in China. Sure, Batman and Superman are arguably the two most noteworthy superheroes in existence, but these are new franchises, in case that wasn't plainly clear. People claimed that Batman Begins was bit of a disappointment when it didn't become a bigger hit, but it had to build a fanbase for itself much in the same way that DC is doing now again. And BvS made $200 million more than Man of Steel, so I'd say they're doing just fine.

Apparently you don't understand what individuality means. Suicide Squad, tonally, is nothing like Man of Steel or BvS, both of which, despite being close siblings, are about very different things. Contrast this with Marvel, where EVERY. SINGLE. FILM. follows the EXACT. SAME. formula.

Getting positive reviews is easy when the critics are largely braindead and barely even seem to view the films and come into them with a clear bias to begin with. Doctor Strange can a 100% on RT for all I care, I know it's an empty shell of a film, like Civil War before it. It also won't beat Suicide Squad at the box office. I guarantee.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

DC has the greatest hero and rogue galleries of all time and it's shameful that they can't capitalize on that and make single a half-coherent movie ever since Nolan's TDK triology ended.