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Old 08-10-2016, 08:09 AM   #221
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The HDR is jaw dropping on this one. Outstanding image quality.

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Old 08-10-2016, 09:27 AM   #222
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Is Universal Pictures still using this type of menu for 4K Blu-ray?


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Old 08-10-2016, 09:42 AM   #223
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Watching Oblivion UHD. Great looking in 4K. Zero complaints. IMO one of the best UHD blu-rays out to date!

Some are saying the 1080p blu-ray is looking better. Never once did I think that. This will be my current 4k reference disk.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:20 AM   #224
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I hate to say it, but I think this movie may have some serious DNR. I just compared the 1080p blu ray, and the 4k version is very soft almost at all times. The 1080p version is noticeably sharper with better texture. The hdr is terrific, but the resolution is WORSE.
Seen that kind of softening on other 4K titles but often just a few scenes. Don't like you found it all over this. Even if it's a 2K DI upscaled there is no warrant for loss of sharpness/textures...
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:35 AM   #225
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This basically means a 940D, for example, and certainly MadVR are superior in the upscaling as opposed to what the studio has done to the UHD disc. MadVR is without a doubt far sharper/accurate upscaling 1080p than the UHD.
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Old 08-10-2016, 12:08 PM   #226
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Is Universal Pictures still using this type of menu for 4K Blu-ray?

Sort of. They got rid of the dashboard blade design but kept the vertical layout and streamlined it a bit more. Few pics -




Edit: As for Oblivion UHD PQ, won't have time to check it out until Thursday or Friday.
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Old 08-10-2016, 12:09 PM   #227
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I A-B'd the first 15-20 minutes last night with the Blu-ray and UHD. The colors on the UHD blow away its Blu-ray counterpart. The HDR on this is very rich. I do think the UHD seemed a little dark at times even with the Samsung K8500 picture settings on Dynamic. But it's still a noticeable improvement. No Lionsgate situation where the Blu-ray is actually preferable.

BTW, I hate the slipcover. This and Lone Survivor had some glaring scratches and scrapes on the front.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:33 PM   #228
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Which is best first on Lucy or Oblivion while night movie watch??

I don't know....

Tell me please.
Watch Oblivion before Lucy. I made the mistake of watching Lucy first. Lucy is sharp and detailed while Oblivion is softer. So after watching Lucy first Oblivion was more of a letdown because of the softness. Yet if I had watched Oblivion first I would have been more impressed.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:36 PM   #229
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Watching Oblivion UHD. Great looking in 4K. Zero complaints. IMO one of the best UHD blu-rays out to date!

Some are saying the 1080p blu-ray is looking better. Never once did I think that. This will be my current 4k reference disk.
I remember being very impressed with the BD. And I was expecting to be wowed by the UHD BD. But after seeing all the detail from the Lucy UHD BD. Oblivion just didn't wow me like the BD did. Of course HDR made Oblivion look great. It just didn't show detail like I expected after watching Lucy. I would easily place Lucy at the top of those two titles visually.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:38 PM   #230
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Watched Oblivion last night. I'm siding with the folks saying it looks a little filtered. I've used the Blu for demos constantly and am very familiar with the way it looks. I immediately noticed the UHD disc looked slightly filtered and soft in comparison. The new color looks great, and the film still looks very good, but it does look a bit softer than the Blu.

Lucy looked fine from the little bit I looked at, but I only got to look at a few scenes.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:52 PM   #231
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I Picked up Oblivion, Lucy and Lone S' and so far, since I use a different setting for BD over 4K HDR, I have to say the BD had more fine detail than the 4K release which is considerably softer. Colors are more pumped up but so far, I'm not too impressed with Universal's 4K release of Oblivion. Kinda bummed. Out of 23 4K HDR discs, my reference disc is Sicario.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:14 PM   #232
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Watched Oblivion last night. I'm siding with the folks saying it looks a little filtered. I've used the Blu for demos constantly and am very familiar with the way it looks. I immediately noticed the UHD disc looked slightly filtered and soft in comparison. The new color looks great, and the film still looks very good, but it does look a bit softer than the Blu.

Lucy looked fine from the little bit I looked at, but I only got to look at a few scenes.


Lucy gets better as the movie goes, its great.


But what's going on with these upscales movies being softer? I've noticed it on quite a few 4k movies that some of the upscales come out softer. I popped in my oblivion blu ray last night and the picture is so sharp and 3d looking. Both of those are a little lost on the UHD. Mad Max suffers from extreme softness and loss of texture too. I posted pictures way back in April about it.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:17 PM   #233
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Lucy gets better as the movie goes, its great.


But what's going on with these upscales movies being softer? I've noticed it on quite a few 4k movies that some of the upscales come out softer. I popped in my oblivion blu ray last night and the picture is so sharp and 3d looking. Both of those are a little lost on the UHD. Mad Max suffers from extreme softness and loss of texture too. I posted pictures way back in April about it.
It may be that some telecine operators are getting a little too aggressive with the filtering to tamp down any residual upscale artifacting from whatever algorithm they're using.

The sooner we get more titles with true 4k digital (not upscale) and 4k scanned original film elements, the better.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:57 PM   #234
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im actually super looking forward for a review!
I did a google search just now and the only thing that comes up for a review is this one http://whysoblu.com/oblivion-4k-uhd-blu-ray-review/

At least the reviewer confirms my suspicions over the low audio volume I experienced.

I kind of agree too as the image was not as "sharp" as I was hoping for with this being on UHD. However, my limited knowledge does understand too that this is an upscale form a 2K transfer.

With all that being said, I CANNOT wait to watch Lucy in 4K this week!!!
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:04 PM   #235
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It may be that some telecine operators are getting a little too aggressive with the filtering to tamp down any residual upscale artifacting from whatever algorithm they're using.

The sooner we get more titles with true 4k digital (not upscale) and 4k scanned original film elements, the better.
That is my guess as well for what is happening. However, there are a lot of movies to be released that have 2K DIs (including most new titles) so they need to fix this problem and improve upon this upscale/algorithm process.
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:26 PM   #236
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1st review is out.


I skimmed through the review searching for a mention of the softness, and indeed it's almost the 1st thing mentioned.


http://whysoblu.com/oblivion-4k-uhd-blu-ray-review/
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That is my guess as well for what is happening. However, there are a lot of movies to be released that have 2K DIs (including most new titles) so they need to fix this problem and improve upon this upscale/algorithm process.
I haven't checked out Oblivion yet but it's unfortunate to hear that Universal may have dropped the ball on the upscale. If that is indeed the case then perhaps they should seek Sony for advice because the upscale for Risen is one the best that I have seen to date. I count myself no expert though so am not sure if using the same algorithm they used to upscale Risen with would benefit other movies as well.

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Old 08-10-2016, 04:55 PM   #238
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This is just another example of why I was pushing for native resolution releases for UHD Blu as opposed to always scaling to 4K. I would have been happy with a true 2K master with all the other benefits (higher bit depth, wider gamut, HDR) and not have to worry about how good a studio can upscale a movie. Of course the pundits said they have better tools than we do for upscaling so it should be fine, and here we are.
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:09 PM   #239
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I have the Blu-Ray of this with all the bonus material anyway.

I'll skip this one for now, and pick up just Lucy soon. Maybe when it drops down to 10.00.
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So I just watched my 4K copy. Did anyone notice the Dolby Atmos track was a little low volume wise. No complaints other than the volume of it. I have a Dolby Atmos setup, and kept my receiver where I normally do for all my other 4K titles, but it sounded a little weak to what I am accustomed to. After the credits roll and it goes to that Deluxe Entertainment logo that animation was so much louder than the actual movie. Anyone else have the same experience?
Yes, I did notice I had to turn it up just a little bit.

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^Age of Ultron was another quiet one.

I can't believe I watched 3 movies today. Lol.

Lucy is dumb but fun, Lone Survivor is top tier film-making. Universal is off to a great start!

Lovin' me some UHD HDR.
Age of Ultron was horrible for the surround sound, flat and dull. Thought something was wrong with my disc. Lucy and Lone Survivor I'll be getting this week!!
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