Oblivion 4K UHD (2013)

[Pgcmoore]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You also get a UHD Dolby Vision streaming version with it, and it doesn't have the filtering.

I just double dipped on this title to get the 4K version. And I just saw that Vudu says its now available in UHD (see image) Was going to gift the DC since I already have it my library. But if it will update my current Vudu DC to UHD, I will keep it!'

http://imgur.com/a/YZfCs

[EbonDragon]

Awesome! Thanks for the advice, all of you!

[Pgcmoore]

Can now confirm for double dippers. Installing the digital copy code directly into the Vudu page for Oblivion via the redeem tab will upgrade your ownership to include UHD with Dolby Vision and Atmos


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[wesslan]

And bitrate starved or?

[StingingVelvet]

Maybe it was done already, but someone should check the DV stream to see if it loses detail compared to the blu like the disc does. Probably the same, but you never know I guess.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Maybe it was done already, but someone should check the DV stream to see if it loses detail compared to the blu like the disc does. Probably the same, but you never know I guess.

Think it was reported by a few that the DV version doesn't suffer like the UHD and looks a lot better detail wise which is very bad done by Universal.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Think it was reported by a few that the DV version doesn't suffer like the UHD and looks a lot better detail wise which is very bad done by Universal.

Hmmm, I guess I'll redeem the digital copy then for if I ever have a DV set. What does a Vudu stream do if you have an HDR 10 only set? Play 4k without HDR, convert to SDR or show you the HDX?

[Pgcmoore]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Hmmm, I guess I'll redeem the digital copy then for if I ever have a DV set. What does a Vudu stream do if you have an HDR 10 only set? Play 4k without HDR, convert to SDR or show you the HDX?

I imagine it would do like my Roku Ultra did, play UHD (Vudu) with no HDR (thats what the P55 showed in the system specs) since the Roku does not support Dolby Vision yet. I have to cast from the Vudu app on my iPhone directly to the Vizio (Chromecast) to get Dolby Vision

Edit: I did notice that the Roku will do HDR10 on Digital Copy titles, but so far only Kong:SI and FOTF, I assume because they have both, even in the DC's. Still new to this 4K stuff, only been a little over a week for me BUT I LIKE IT!!!

[Pgcmoore]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Hmmm, I guess I'll redeem the digital copy then for if I ever have a DV set. What does a Vudu stream do if you have an HDR 10 only set? Play 4k without HDR, convert to SDR or show you the HDX?

Well that was interesting, your question got me a little curious to try something. So I just installed Fandango on the Roku and linked my UV titles to it, and low and behold, Oblivion now plays in HDR from the Roku!! woo hoo!, but in HDR10, learning something new everyday now. Still cant get Passengers DC to play in UHD yet thou, even thou its in my UV library as UHD. Had a ticket in at Flixster on it and they have escalated it to Sony I guess, best way I have found to play DC's thou is thru Vudu from my phone, I think as they get more titles available in HDR and more are in both HDR10 and DV life will get a whole lot easier, not having to have a 4K blu-ray player for every Display in the house will be a good thing!

[Pgcmoore]

a great spot to check PQ between the BD 1080, UHD, HDR10 and Dolby Vision is between 00:31 and 00:39 minutes in the film. just watched all 4 formats with the same display settings. The difference is astonishing and Dolby Vision is clear winner of coarse followed by HDR10 but PQ is almost the same if not better on the BD in 1080 (Disk) than UHD without HDR (DC),

in my opinion,

[StingingVelvet]

Yeah there were some comparison shots with Netflix shows, 4k stream compared to 1080 blu, and while there was some added detail on the stream the compression kind of killed most of it and they looked roughly on par. I'd guess the same would be true for movies without HDR entering the conversation.

Vizio P specs mean it benefits more from Dolby than mine would, so hard to comment on that.

[StingingVelvet]

Just watched this... love the movie so when it was $15 thought I'd see it for myself. Reminds me of 3:10 to Yuma and X-Men: First Class. It's warmer and softer than the BD, plus grain is less obvious, very similar to those two discs. I watched the whole UHD though and didn't think it looked bad really (which I did for those other two). It just looked warmer and softer than I remembered. Also I noticed some obvious Miss Peregrine style banding in the sky in a few shots.

I put the BD in afterward and it felt like a huge upgrade, even though it theoretically would be a downgrade. Much more detail and a crisp, cool look. One of the things I loved about Oblivion was that bright white "refrigerator light" look to it, which the UHD removes in favor of the standard warmer look. God knows which is more accurate to the theatrical exhibition, but I like the unique look of the BD. The fact is has a lot more detail (very obvious when upscaled, not even a contest) is a bonus.

tl:dr Gonna call this the third UHD I think is worse than the BD. It's not ugly though, and I'll probably keep the disc. It's a unique and different experience.

[OI8T12]

I watched this movie last night and I thought it looked pretty good. There weren't any wow moments, and not much color, but I think that's the intended look. I didn't compare it to the Blu-ray, but I think it's a small upgrade over the Blu-ray. I'm happy with it.

[torinio97419]

hello, question : is what the additional blu-ray sold with is also freezone?

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by torinio97419

hello, question : is what the additional blu-ray sold with is also freezone?

I imagine it is the same disc that came with the Blu-ray release and according to the review on this site it is region free.

[wesslan]

Still haven't seen any UHD vs digital copy with dolby vision vs Blu-ray yet on this title. Only read that a few seems to prefer the digital streaming version above the scrubbed UHD that has a very soft picture but that the new Atmos audio is better on the UHD. I'm most interested in the video quality.

[JimDiGriz]

Originally Posted by torinio97419

hello, question : is what the additional blu-ray sold with is also freezone?

Plays fine on my region B player - I didn't test it on my region A player but no need for me.

[gates70]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Still haven't seen any UHD vs digital copy with dolby vision vs Blu-ray yet on this title. Only read that a few seems to prefer the digital streaming version above the scrubbed UHD that has a very soft picture but that the new Atmos audio is better on the UHD. I'm most interested in the video quality.

It isn't a VERY soft picture. It's softer, yes, just not AS sharp. Colors are better too.

[Brahmzy]

It IS very soft. Considering it’s much softer than BD and UHD is supposed to be sharper than BD... yes it’s freakin very soft. Disasterously soft.

[Geoff D]

This is one of the very rare times that I'll sharpen the shit out of something. Once I've cranked up the Reality Creation on the TV (or if using the Panny player then both mid and high freq luma sharpening to +6 and Edge Correction to +1) then it really does have something of the arresting sense of sharpness that the BD has, and because it's been softened so heavily you can likewise sharpen it very heavily before the usual artefacts like ringing etc start to appear.