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Old 09-27-2017, 12:58 AM   #741
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Jeez people give it a rest. Some do enjoy the PQ of this movie. Why is it some people always need to have the last word?
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:05 AM   #742
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^^ Last word? Looking at YOU.

Don’t sugar coat what is a well-known disaster of a release of an otherwise awesome movie.
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:10 AM   #743
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This is one of the very rare times that I'll sharpen the shit out of something. Once I've cranked up the Reality Creation on the TV (or if using the Panny player then both mid and high freq luma sharpening to +6 and Edge Correction to +1) then it really does have something of the arresting sense of sharpness that the BD has, and because it's been softened so heavily you can likewise sharpen it very heavily before the usual artefacts like ringing etc start to appear.
I’ll give it a shot.
The HDR is an amazing upgrade over the BD, don’t get me wrong, but the softness is so bad it ruins the experience.
Doesn’t help this is one of my favorite movies of which the BD has been visually burned into my brain probably 50 times or more. I noticed the bad transfer within seconds of the movie starting, and it just continued to worsen throughout.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:34 AM   #744
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The HDR is wonderful, yep. If you can sharpen this up enough then I think you'll be able to enjoy it.
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:49 PM   #745
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It's different, I dunno about wonderful. It adds a more "normal" warmer look to the movie, but I quite like the more sterile white look of the normal BD. So it really depends on preference.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:26 PM   #746
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^^ There’s that too.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:36 PM   #747
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It's different, I dunno about wonderful. It adds a more "normal" warmer look to the movie, but I quite like the more sterile white look of the normal BD. So it really depends on preference.
And I know this argument is always built on pillars on sand, but my mind’s eye definitely remembers the color scheme in its theatrical exhibition looking just like the BD captures it. This is a case where HDR, for me, alters the original artistic intention.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:52 PM   #748
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Never saw it theatrically but the frame grabs in the American Cinematographer article don't look anything like as sterile as the BD does, although the UHD is yet more colourful. I think the BD is pushing the 'sterile' angle a bit too far simply because of the limited amount of SDR colour volume, it's so bright that colour is always going to be leeched out of it, and the UHD brings that back with a bit more on top. An ideal UHD presentation would've been somewhere in between grading-wise and without the image softened to shit, but as it is I'm not wedded to the BD's look (wasn't a huge fan of the movie but now I've warmed up to it) and I'll stick to the UHD sharpened up the ying-yang in the future.
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:56 AM   #749
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Never saw it theatrically but the frame grabs in the American Cinematographer article don't look anything like as sterile as the BD does, although the UHD is yet more colourful. I think the BD is pushing the 'sterile' angle a bit too far simply because of the limited amount of SDR colour volume, it's so bright that colour is always going to be leeched out of it, and the UHD brings that back with a bit more on top. An ideal UHD presentation would've been somewhere in between grading-wise and without the image softened to shit, but as it is I'm not wedded to the BD's look (wasn't a huge fan of the movie but now I've warmed up to it) and I'll stick to the UHD sharpened up the ying-yang in the future.
First, I acknowledge that a number of posters, including you, think that Oblivion isn't sharp enough. I didn't see that but, as I confessed in a post last February, that may be because my aging eyes just couldn't see it. Anyway, I enjoyed the film, especially its upgraded TrueHD Atmos soundtrack. It was money well spent.
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Old 09-30-2017, 06:58 AM   #750
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Never saw it theatrically but the frame grabs in the American Cinematographer article don't look anything like as sterile as the BD does, although the UHD is yet more colourful. I think the BD is pushing the 'sterile' angle a bit too far simply because of the limited amount of SDR colour volume, it's so bright that colour is always going to be leeched out of it, and the UHD brings that back with a bit more on top.
It's just a personal taste thing obviously. I really love how white and clean the BD looks. It's one of the main things I loved about the movie. The UHD is a very different experience, even without discussing the detail loss. A lot of people are going to prefer the more typical warm look of the UHD though.
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:40 AM   #751
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Back covers are bull$hit, so can someone who have UK edition of Lucy on UHD take a picture of menu with all the available subtitles?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:34 PM   #752
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Watched the blu ray upscaled last night and it looked very nice. Not sure if I'm going to bother "upgrading" on this one. Not unless I can find it real cheap.
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:43 PM   #753
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Watched the blu ray upscaled last night and it looked very nice. Not sure if I'm going to bother "upgrading" on this one.
I wouldn't.
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:08 AM   #754
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Not worthwhile, maybe for the Atmos track but that's it, even HDR doesn't save its picture quality.
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:47 AM   #755
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$9.99 isn't bad at all
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Old 11-19-2017, 11:04 AM   #756
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Atmos alone is worth to upgrade?

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Old 11-19-2017, 12:10 PM   #757
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Just watched this... love the movie so when it was $15 thought I'd see it for myself. Reminds me of 3:10 to Yuma and X-Men: First Class. It's warmer and softer than the BD, plus grain is less obvious, very similar to those two discs. I watched the whole UHD though and didn't think it looked bad really (which I did for those other two). It just looked warmer and softer than I remembered. Also I noticed some obvious Miss Peregrine style banding in the sky in a few shots.

I put the BD in afterward and it felt like a huge upgrade, even though it theoretically would be a downgrade. Much more detail and a crisp, cool look. One of the things I loved about Oblivion was that bright white "refrigerator light" look to it, which the UHD removes in favor of the standard warmer look. God knows which is more accurate to the theatrical exhibition, but I like the unique look of the BD. The fact is has a lot more detail (very obvious when upscaled, not even a contest) is a bonus.

tl:dr Gonna call this the third UHD I think is worse than the BD. It's not ugly though, and I'll probably keep the disc. It's a unique and different experience.
I guess I'll skip the $10 upgrade. What are the other to UHDs you think look worse than the BD?
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:26 PM   #758
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I don't have the BR right now to compare but I think it looks really great on Dolby Vision. One of the better looking streamers.
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Old 11-20-2017, 12:02 AM   #759
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$9.99 is possibly worth it, if you have an atmos setup. Part of me wonders if this will one day see a remaster with Dolby Vision, though.
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Old 11-20-2017, 12:15 AM   #760
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They need to redo this disc in a big way. So much potential completely wasted/ruined.
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