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Old 09-10-2018, 02:05 PM   #1241
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Yes but from what I understand newer models are getting closer to under 2 all around. ISF picture settings should be close enough to deliver enough accuracy whereas we wont have to wonder why snow looks yellow or why clouds look turquoise.
I would say newer high end tv’s would likely have more accurate picture but again every tv is different so you won’t know unless you have a meter. I don’t understand your last point? If snow looks like piss and clouds are turquoise then your settings are way off.
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or it's how the disc was 'remastered'. Can anyone say"Indiana Jones"..lol
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I would say newer high end tv’s would likely have more accurate picture but again every tv is different so you won’t know unless you have a meter. I don’t understand your last point? If snow looks like piss and clouds are turquoise then your settings are way off.
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Old 09-10-2018, 03:10 PM   #1244
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I should have known better...
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Old 09-10-2018, 05:51 PM   #1245
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I think you missed the sign when you walked in this thread that says "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS".
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:48 PM   #1246
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He answered that question. No way in knowing unless you measure with a meter. There isn’t a percentage, most panels will have a dE under 5. Under 3 is good, under 2 is excellent but I’ve never seen a panel under 2 out of the box. Ever.
The review model of my Samsung KS8000 on Rtings had a dE under 2. It was 1.6.

Now of course you and Geoffy are right that the only way to know your panel matches up is to pro-calibrate it, but I doubt the differences are so vast as to suddenly put my dE into the stratosphere. You can get a generally accurate set if you research. My old Vizio was not a generally accurate set. Honestly I can tell my Samsung is very accurate just from A) looking at it, since I'm used to an accurate image, and B) comparing it to my older TV and my PC monitor, which are calibrated.

I know dozens of calibration nerds are having heart palpitations reading that, but I'm not discounting calibration. If I knew I'd be keeping this TV for years I'd probably have it done anyway. However the idea that you can't get a generally accurate image without it is kind of extreme, IMO.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:02 PM   #1247
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The review model of my Samsung KS8000 on Rtings had a dE under 2. It was 1.6.

Now of course you and Geoffy are right that the only way to know your panel matches up is to pro-calibrate it, but I doubt the differences are so vast as to suddenly put my dE into the stratosphere. You can get a generally accurate set if you research. My old Vizio was not a generally accurate set. Honestly I can tell my Samsung is very accurate just from A) looking at it, since I'm used to an accurate image, and B) comparing it to my older TV and my PC monitor, which are calibrated.

I know dozens of calibration nerds are having heart palpitations reading that, but I'm not discounting calibration. If I knew I'd be keeping this TV for years I'd probably have it done anyway. However the idea that you can't get a generally accurate image without it is kind of extreme, IMO.
That’s pretty sweet Velvet. You can definitely get an accurate tv with out of the box settings but not a reference image. Most people would be fine with the out of box settings since they are accurate. You’re lucky. I’m just itching to get mine all setup.
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That’s pretty sweet Velvet. You can definitely get an accurate tv with out of the box settings but not a reference image. Most people would be fine with the out of box settings since they are accurate. You’re lucky. I’m just itching to get mine all setup.
That's a good way to put it, pretty accurate but not necessarily reference. I feel like I'm gonna get an OLED in 2019 or 2020, so that's the main reason I'm not calibrating my current set. I'm glad it looks very accurate anyway, even though it could never be 100% without a calibration.

Geoffy should come visit the US and calibrate my TV at the same time.
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Old 09-11-2018, 01:05 AM   #1249
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That's a good way to put it, pretty accurate but not necessarily reference. I feel like I'm gonna get an OLED in 2019 or 2020, so that's the main reason I'm not calibrating my current set. I'm glad it looks very accurate anyway, even though it could never be 100% without a calibration.

Geoffy should come visit the US and calibrate my TV at the same time.
Yeah if it looks great and you’re happy, that’s all that matters really. A dE under 2 is very accurate so I highly doubt you will see much of a difference.

I was very reluctant returning my LED for the OLED having calibrated a few 2016’s for some friends. I wasn’t really sold on them. But I landed an incredible deal so I pulled the trigger and I can say in all honesty it’s the best display I’ve owned and feel I made the right decision. Whenever I buy a new toy the novelty wears thin but not my OLED
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I was very reluctant returning my LED for the OLED having calibrated a few 2016’s for some friends. I wasn’t really sold on them. But I landed an incredible deal so I pulled the trigger and I can say in all honesty it’s the best display I’ve owned and feel I made the right decision. Whenever I buy a new toy the novelty wears thin but not my OLED
They were very flawed in 2016 when I upgraded for UHD, but today I think they're the obvious way to go. We'll see if I can pry a few grand from the wife next year or so.
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:25 AM   #1251
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That's a good way to put it, pretty accurate but not necessarily reference. I feel like I'm gonna get an OLED in 2019 or 2020, so that's the main reason I'm not calibrating my current set. I'm glad it looks very accurate anyway, even though it could never be 100% without a calibration.

Geoffy should come visit the US and calibrate my TV at the same time.
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lets get back to the disc. there are threads for tv discussions.....
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lets get back to the disc. there are threads for tv discussions.....
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Yeah if it looks great and you’re happy, that’s all that matters really. A dE under 2 is very accurate so I highly doubt you will see much of a difference.

I was very reluctant returning my LED for the OLED having calibrated a few 2016’s for some friends. I wasn’t really sold on them. But I landed an incredible deal so I pulled the trigger and I can say in all honesty it’s the best display I’ve owned and feel I made the right decision. Whenever I buy a new toy the novelty wears thin but not my OLED
I still feel love for my OLED every day, and it's a 2016! I feel like I might have to have a toilet installed in my living room if I ever upgrade to a newer model, just in case.

Okay, NOW we can get back to the disc.
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Old 09-11-2018, 01:50 PM   #1255
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I still feel love for my OLED every day, and it's a 2016! I feel like I might have to have a toilet installed in my living room if I ever upgrade to a newer model, just in case.

Okay, NOW we can get back to the disc.
The 2016 are amazing, I guess my post sounded like a back handed comment, it wasn’t intended to sound like that. I would have bought one if I couldn’t get my 2017 for the price I did. $1,800 CDN for the 65”.
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The 2016 are amazing, I guess my post sounded like a back handed comment, it wasn’t intended to sound like that. I would have bought one if I couldn’t get my 2017 for the price I did. $1,800 CDN for the 65”.
I paid something like $1800 US and I thought it was a good deal... for the 55".

In other words: I can haz?
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Old 09-11-2018, 03:19 PM   #1257
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I paid something like $1800 US and I thought it was a good deal... for the 55".

In other words: I can haz?
Lol yeah I couldn’t believe it when I walked out of the store. The wife and I were running with it.
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I got a weird dumb question and I know this isn't the digital forum but we're already off topic so I figured I'd try-

I bought the 4K Oblivion last week and haven't yet redeemed the digital copy. I have a digital copy of the movie from when I bought it on Blu-ray a few years ago. Is this one of the digital titles that was automatically upgraded to 4K? Basically, is there any reason for me to redeem the copy that came with the 4K version?

Thanks in advance, the whole some-4K-digital-copies-redeem-in-4K-and-some-don't thing is endlessly confusing to me.
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Old 09-11-2018, 03:52 PM   #1259
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I got a weird dumb question and I know this isn't the digital forum but we're already off topic so I figured I'd try-

I bought the 4K Oblivion last week and haven't yet redeemed the digital copy. I have a digital copy of the movie from when I bought it on Blu-ray a few years ago. Is this one of the digital titles that was automatically upgraded to 4K? Basically, is there any reason for me to redeem the copy that came with the 4K version?

Thanks in advance, the whole some-4K-digital-copies-redeem-in-4K-and-some-don't thing is endlessly confusing to me.
someone can else chime in here, but no, Universal only bumps up your digital copy when it's a UHD disc edition 'digital copy' - not from the bluray.
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They were very flawed in 2016 when I upgraded for UHD, but today I think they're the obvious way to go. We'll see if I can pry a few grand from the wife next year or so.
I'm afraid I'm stuck with LCD. As wonderful as OLED is, it's limited to a 65 inch screen size for we mere mortals who don't have ~$15 K for the 77 inch version. A projector is a nonstarter for me too because I am unwilling to give up HDR. This makes LCD the only game in town so far, for me at least. I keep hoping that big screen versions of OLED sets will get cheaper but have seen few signs of it.
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