Gladiator (2000) - Page 103 - Blu-ray Forum

Jack Burton · 09-02-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

You have to keep in mind who's producing the release. If it's a big studio distributing the same movie around the world, they will produce it centrally in-house for all territories using the same assets. For example, 20th Century Fox creates all Fox BDs for Finland in the USA.

It's a different story for movies that have been sold to a bunch of smaller distributors round the world. There's a studio with the assets in the US, but they won't lift a finger to actually encode and author the BD. They will sell the master to each distributor, and it's up to each distributor to decide what to do with it. Some might go with low bitrate VC-1, others with high bitrate AVC; some will add sharpening, others might apply DNR on purpose for easier low bitrate encoding to fit on a BD25 instead of the more expensive BD50. That's why you might find 4-5 separate European BD releases for the same movie, and every one looks a bit different.

Cheers' just getting my hopes up that the uk was DNR and EE free.From that review i thought she was watching a film were she could see grain which lead me to believe that she might be watching a better version ,but the chances are she has'nt got a clue how to review a film.

Petri Teittinen · 09-02-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Cheers' just getting my hopes up that the uk was DNR and EE free.From that review i thought she was watching a film were she could see grain which lead me to believe that she might be watching a better version ,but the chances are she has'nt got a clue how to review a film.

Oh, I wish with all my heart that UK (and therefore Finland, too) got a better version... but the review being from What Hi-Fi? smart money is going with "she doesn't have a clue."

Godbluffer · 09-02-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jsub

Dont bother, just go to DVD Beaver and read their review. They have comparison's between 4 versions of Gladiator...2 DVDS, HDTV and Blu. Bluray owns by far.

You might want to reconsider your comment after studying this.

(Please ignore most of the text though, it's rather too far over the top, especially the rating.

)

HAVOKK · 09-02-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jsub

Dont bother, just go to DVD Beaver and read their review. They have comparison's between 4 versions of Gladiator...2 DVDS, HDTV and Blu. Bluray owns by far.

their HDTV screens look like crap compared to what Im looking at..

gates70 · 09-02-2009, 11:56 PM

Ok yesterday when I flipped through some scenes and posted my remarks I said the picture was great. Now I want to retract that statement since I just watched the whole thing (extended version) and I find the picture was fantastic ! The scenes were clear as day and never noticed all the stuff people are complaining about. Even the battle scene at the beginning was great and that was people's biggest complaint. You could see all the detail of the snow falling and everything was crisp. I know I'll get flamed from all the haters but I don't care. The PQ was beautiful and am glad I didn't listen to the masses on this board. Even if they had a replacement program I wouldn't send it in. Now it's just to figure out why some people on here have copies that say are horrid and had to shut it off and some like me that see no issues at all. It can't be that opposite.

banned user105 · 09-02-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Godbluffer

You might want to reconsider your comment after studying this.

Thanks for this link. Most compelling argument I've seen against this crappy transfer so far.

BStecke · 09-03-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Godbluffer

You might want to reconsider your comment after studying this.

(Please don't read the text though, it's rather too far over the top.

)

http://www.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/gladiator9.jpg

The masochist in me still wants to buy this and hope for a replacement at some point.

Jack Burton · 09-03-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

Oh, I wish with all my heart that UK (and therefore Finland, too) got a better version... but the review being from What Hi-Fi? smart money is going with "she doesn't have a clue."

Beta man thinks that am lying but from that review does she mention grain or am i losing the plot.Just to confirm i hate Dnr EE and any other filtering which is applied to films.

Petri Teittinen · 09-03-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gates70

Ok yesterday when I flipped through some scenes and posted my remarks I said the picture was great. Now I want to retract that statement since I just watched the whole thing (extended version) and I find the picture was fantastic !

The scenes that are the same in the theatrical and the extended version have the exact same PQ. There's no theatrical and extended version on the disc: there's only the theatrical version plus the additional scenes from the extended version which are seamlessly edited in when you view the extended version.

In other words, the bits that looked 'great' earlier during the theatrical version should have looked 'great' today when you viewed the extended version. They were the exact same scenes.

edit: Hmm, I might've misunderstood your post. I'll blame the fact it's almost 4am here and it's time for me to hit the hay.

Hep · 09-03-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Deads3t

is GOOD

Are you somehow suggesting the picture of the processed grain is bad? Doesn't sound like you Deads3t.

Godbluffer · 09-03-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

http://www.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/gladiator9.jpg

That's a shot with heavy use of CGI of course, but still it's no excuse for the horrible sharpening going on there.

Phoenix Theory · 09-03-2009, 12:04 AM

i never saw this movie but always wanted to im buying this and brave heart Saturday

Petri Teittinen · 09-03-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Beta man thinks that am lying but from that review does she mention grain or am i losing the plot.Just to confirm i hate Dnr EE and any other filtering which is applied to films.

You're right, she does mention grain. Unfortunately I believe poor Clare wouldn't know "authentic film grain" if it kicked her in the face.

HAVOKK · 09-03-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by xphoenix23

i never saw this movie but always wanted to im buying this and brave heart Saturday

This was my first time also.. I can't believe I missed such a killer movie for 9 years...

Deezer1986 · 09-03-2009, 12:13 AM

I decided to hold off on purchasing this to see what happens. Oh well, I could've used the savings anyway. I'm already getting too much this month anyway. And while Gladiator would be cool to own and I would enjoy it very much, it's not that "Oh my gosh I've gotta have it I'm going to murder this kitten!" title for me.

TheDarkKnight821 · 09-03-2009, 12:13 AM

Wow I honestly can't believe the nit picks about this! I bought this today and this is the best the movie has ever looked! It looks FINE.

Jack Burton · 09-03-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

You're right, she does mention grain. Unfortunately I believe poor Clare wouldn't know "authentic film grain" if it kicked her in the face.

Also she states in another qoute from the site in a leser review at the start that this is how Ridley Scott would want Gladiator on blu ray.If you read posts from others they think that they are getting a film like blu ray based on her review.I think she is going to hit with a few posts of anger on monday when its released over hear.

Jimbo976 · 09-03-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

You're right, she does mention grain. Unfortunately I believe poor Clare wouldn't know "authentic film grain" if it kicked her in the face.

It says she is Editor-in-Chief of What Hi-fi? Sound and Vision

I wonder what this says about What Hi-fi?

Godbluffer · 09-03-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight821

Wow I honestly can't believe the nit picks about this! I bought this today and this is the best the movie has ever looked! It looks FINE.

Yet it could have looked... S.T.U.NN.I.N.G!!

Petri Teittinen · 09-03-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Also she states in another qoute from the site in a leser review at the start that this is how Ridley Scott would want Gladiator on blu ray.If you read posts from others they think that they are getting a film like blu ray based on her review.I think she is going to hit with a few posts of anger on monday when its released over hear.

We'll see. There's still the off chance UK version actually looks different. A 0.00001% chance

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09-02-2009, 11:56 PM	#2045
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1484 Blu-ray collection:5225 Blu-ray reviews:1	Ok yesterday when I flipped through some scenes and posted my remarks I said the picture was great. Now I want to retract that statement since I just watched the whole thing (extended version) and I find the picture was fantastic ! The scenes were clear as day and never noticed all the stuff people are complaining about. Even the battle scene at the beginning was great and that was people's biggest complaint. You could see all the detail of the snow falling and everything was crisp. I know I'll get flamed from all the haters but I don't care. The PQ was beautiful and am glad I didn't listen to the masses on this board. Even if they had a replacement program I wouldn't send it in. Now it's just to figure out why some people on here have copies that say are horrid and had to shut it off and some like me that see no issues at all. It can't be that opposite.

09-03-2009, 12:04 AM	#2052
Phoenix Theory Banned Member since:Mar 2009 Location:30 Years From Now Home Theater Gallery:228 Blu-ray collection:457 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:163	i never saw this movie but always wanted to im buying this and brave heart Saturday

09-03-2009, 12:13 AM	#2055
Deezer1986 Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Harrison, Arkansas 4K collection:188 Blu-ray collection:1178 DVD collection:225	I decided to hold off on purchasing this to see what happens. Oh well, I could've used the savings anyway. I'm already getting too much this month anyway. And while Gladiator would be cool to own and I would enjoy it very much, it's not that "Oh my gosh I've gotta have it I'm going to murder this kitten!" title for me.

09-03-2009, 12:13 AM	#2056
TheDarkKnight821 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:1	Wow I honestly can't believe the nit picks about this! I bought this today and this is the best the movie has ever looked! It looks FINE.

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