Gladiator (2000)

[sasquatch]

I'm sure this matters not one iota, but they aren't getting my money for Gladiator until I know a quality release is issued.

But that's the sad state of affairs with everything - TV, shoes, toys, you-name-it. For whatever reason, people continue to shell out money no matter how something is poorly manufactured.Boggles my mind.

If people took a nanosecond to think before buying, then we'd have more power as a consumer.

Or at least I like to think.

[Gremal]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

I'm sure this matters not one iota, but they aren't getting my money for Gladiator until I know a quality release is issued.

But that's the sad state of affairs with everything - TV, shoes, toys, you-name-it. For whatever reason, people continue to shell out money no matter how something is poorly manufactured.Boggles my mind.

If people took a nanosecond to think before buying, then we'd have more power as a consumer.

Or at least I like to think.

Ok, but to boycott a Blu-ray for any reason is not going to send the message you want to send. It will more likely encourage studio execs to slow down the rollout of catalog BD releases. The format deserves support and the Gladiator Blu-ray is the best available version, on the merits of audio if you really hate the video that much.

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Ok, but to boycott a Blu-ray for any reason is not going to send the message you want to send. It will more likely encourage studio execs to slow down the rollout of catalog BD releases. The format deserves support and the Gladiator Blu-ray is the best available version, on the merits of audio if you really hate the video that much.

I'm not so sure a boycott of specific releases would result in adverse effect on the entire format release slate for a specific studio unless they were small time. As long as the majority of their titles meet with critical and financial success I think that a studio would not be financially crippled by a boycott of a single title, but would certainly see that sales do not meet expectations.

Having said that, that depends on consumers as a whole acting in the same way and that's very difficult being that some will purchase without research, on blind faith or because they can't tell the difference and this will mean a boycott is not as effective.

Naturally I think that as Blu-ray becomes more popular, the general public is better educated in the format, their expectations change as a result, and Blu-ray ownership increases I believe studios will become more accountable. It happened with DVD when 2nd discs were added, catalogue titles were remastered, superbit DVDs were released and bare bones releases on a number of titles simply didn't cut it. Sure that makes a double dip inevitable, but I think we're getting fairly close to the point where Blu-ray's market saturation will make it far more than a niche market (which I think it hasn't been for about 12 months) and really step up as the preferred format (probably within the next 12-24 months).

That's when I think a rash of titles will start getting the double dip with brand new transfers plus we'll see more of the hotly anticipated catalogue titles like Indiana Jones, Star Wars etc.

At the moment, only more popular catalogue titles that have been seriously compromised in the quality department have seemed to get a re-release. They seem to be the only ones the studio consider financially viable to re-release. I'm sure that will change in the future.

[lDlisturb3d]

so when is the remastered gladiator coming out? anyone?

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by deeman54

so when is the remastered gladiator coming out? anyone?

No release date yet in the U.S.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

No release date yet in the U.S.

But I would guess it will be close to the release of Robin Hood (May 14).

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

But I would guess it will be close to the release of Robin Hood (May 14).

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

No release date yet in the U.S.

Thanks fellas

[scraptor]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Ok, but to boycott a Blu-ray for any reason is not going to send the message you want to send. It will more likely encourage studio execs to slow down the rollout of catalog BD releases. The format deserves support and the Gladiator Blu-ray is the best available version, on the merits of audio if you really hate the video that much.

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. The format deserves support? With no conditions or qualifications? We are far past the infancy stage of blu-ray. The format war is over.

Studios deserve to be held accountable, and the only way to vote is with your wallet. Why accept inferiority? It is precisely because consumers were rightly outraged that we got remasters of Fifth Element and Gangs of New York.

[Chordata]

After buying this on release day, I just today sat down to watch it. I have to admit, I had very low expectations. I am ashamed to admit that I made a bunch of conclusions based on other peoples' reviews without ever seeing it myself, and some of my posts in this thread are baseless.

I think it looks good. DEFINITELY don't think it looks bad.

I personally don't need a replacement program, if in fact they offer one. I cannot see how a re-release could be markedly better.

[Zen_Amako]

I'm waiting for a release without the edge enhancement and DVNR.

Your opinion about this release might depend on how sensitive you are to these issues.

No, it's not as bad as people have made it out to be.

Still certainly room for improvement, though.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I personally don't need a replacement program, if in fact they offer one. I cannot see how a re-release could be markedly better.

Stevie Wonder, is that you?

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

I'm waiting for a release without the edge enhancement and DVNR.

Your opinion about this release might depend on how sensitive you are to these issues.

No, it's not as bad as people have made it out to be.

Still certainly room for improvement, though.

Very true. Based on the outcry, I expected a bad picture. It wasn't a bad picture.

Edge enhancement just doesn't bother me and, frankly, I seem to recall it looking the same way on DVD.

I just can't believe THIS is what people were so upset about.

If LOTR looks this "bad," I'm glad I'm buying Tuesday.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I personally don't need a replacement program, if in fact they offer one. I cannot see how a re-release could be markedly better.

The way you can see how a replacement could be better is to compare the difference between the extended scenes and the theatrical scenes. The extended scenes are clearly better PQ.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Brandon

The way you can see how a replacement could be better is to compare the difference between the extended scenes and the theatrical scenes. The extended scenes are clearly better PQ.

I don't think so at all. They look the same to me. I expected, based on this thread, to see a HUGE difference. I just don't see it.

BTW: the commentary with Crowe and Scott is pretty good!

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I don't think so at all. They look the same to me. I expected, based on this thread, to see a HUGE difference. I just don't see it.

BTW: the commentary with Crowe and Scott is pretty good!

Hm, interesting. I actually hadn't seen it in a long time and the way I could pick out the extended scenes was by the difference in PQ, not from remembering where they were in the film.

[Chordata]

That's weird, I really can't tell a difference. (Though, to be fair, I only knew what was added because Crowe and/or Scott would say "that's new!" in the commentary)

Maybe my TV sucks lol.

[Buddy Christ]

I always have to laugh when I see this thread pop up.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Blu2U

I always have to laugh when I see this thread pop up.

Well, I've posted a lot in here about how MAD I was about the release and I DEMANDED the replacement program, although sheepishly I'd never actually opened my copy since September.

I thought it warranted reviving the thread to share my thoughts now that, you know, I've actually seen it lol.

[Buddy Christ]

I just went back to find out when the whole screen cap, missing arrows extravaganza began.

Page 10 the magic begins in the INFAMOUS Gladiator thread of the DECADE!!

[Sithlord75]

Originally Posted by Brandon

The way you can see how a replacement could be better is to compare the difference between the extended scenes and the theatrical scenes. The extended scenes are clearly better PQ.

100% agree, massive difference in quality when the extended scenes come in.