Gladiator (2000)

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

My take.... from reading the review, in terms of PQ only......

He doesn't "Ride the Fence" in an attempt to play both sides as some suggest (or flat out accuse) It seems to me that he's giving positive, and negative points of the transfer which support his rating of "3.0" for the PQ.

My apologies to the Reviewer.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

yeah.... the 3.0 PQ rating was given to Gladiator.....

AGAIN.....

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PATTON?

If he mentioned Patton in the review..... I guess I missed it

OK LET ME EXPLAIN THEN!

Patton was hammered all over the net including the Digital Bits Review for the SAME EXACT problems as Gladiator. The DNR cry babies on this site have hammered Patton thus the reviewer on this site gives it a rating of 5.

In comes Gladiator....same crying....same bad review at the bits...and the reviewr gives it a 3 for the same problems.

Now I could care less what the reviewer gives these films but you dont find that odd?

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by TheZoof

I think the review sounded good to me. What I don't get is the non 5 star rating for the film itself...

Movie itself is a 5.0 in my book as well.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by Elvis

OK LET ME EXPLAIN THEN!

Patton was hammered all over the net including the Digital Bits Review for the SAME EXACT problems as Gladiator. The DNR cry babies on this site have hammered Patton thus the reviewer on this site gives it a rating of 5.

In comes Gladiator....same crying....same bad review at the bits...and the reviewr gives it a 3 for the same problems.

Now I could care less what the reviewer gives these films but you dont find that odd?

It's.not.the.same.problems.and.this.movie.was.not. affected.the.same.as.Patton.they.are.two.separate. movies.with.dissimilar.problems.

People keep telling you that...

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Sussudio

It's.not.the.same.problems.and.this.movie.was.not. affected.the.same.as.Patton.they.are.two.separate. movies.with.dissimilar.problems.

People keep telling you that...

Really wow....thats not what the Bits said...

you.can.dance.the.issue.all.you.want.thefact.is.th e.reviews.are.inconsistant.with.the.EE.the.DNR.and .the.like.

that.is.all

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Elvis

OK LET ME EXPLAIN THEN!

Patton was hammered all over the net including the Digital Bits Review for the SAME EXACT problems as Gladiator. The DNR cry babies on this site have hammered Patton thus the reviewer on this site gives it a rating of 5.

In comes Gladiator....same crying....same bad review at the bits...and the reviewr gives it a 3 for the same problems.

Now I could care less what the reviewer gives these films but you dont find that odd?

If you want to go into the thread discussing Patton, I'll happily agree with you that the movie, in my opinion, wasn't worthy of a "5" rating for PQ..... I'd say 3.0 for it is about right as a matter of fact......

THE POINT IS...... he was reviewing GLADIATOR.... not simply giving Gladiator a rating based on how it compares to Patton.....

Independent of the Patton review, reading this review it seems fair, thus IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PATTON....... see?

[Deadset]

Originally Posted by Sussudio

Lemme know what you think!

My quick late night thoughts:

Let's get the easy part out of the way:

Sound - rocked.

Now onto the picture.

Video - 3.5/5 - the picture looks scrubbed and uneven, parts look fantastic while others look Overall though, it's very watchable for lack of a better term. I thought the dream sequences looked the best. I watched the entire extended edition and found that the more fleshed out story added to the film.

Is it better than the DVD? YES
Is it ref quality? No
Am I disappointed? No - from what people are saying it's the worst transfer ever and that simply is not true. It's not fantastic and it's not terrible. It's right in the middle.

Screen shots do NOT do the movie justice.


The movie content makes up for it and you really loose yourself in the movie and stop nit-picking every detail. Some of you people must not enjoy films, some are probably the gaming type that buy games based on graphics. I found the blu-ray to be a great addition to my collection.

Enjoy Sussudio, I highly recommend watching the extended cut. Loved the extra little bits of story.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Really wow....thats not what the Bits said...

you.can.dance.the.issue.all.you.want.thefact.is.th e.reviews.are.inconsistant.with.the.EE.the.DNR.and .the.like.

that.is.all

Let's just agree to disagree then...this obviously isn't going anywhere.

Originally Posted by Deads3t

Enjoy Sussudio, I highly recommend watching the extended cut. Loved the extra little bits of story.

Thanks for your thoughts, Dead (and well thought out thoughts too, it seems ) ! I look forward to seeing it too, especially since I've never seen the Extended Cut before.

[cdot2four]

I just rented it and wow pq was 4 aq was 4.5 I have no clue why people are saying bad transfer?? Missing arrows?? Huh? Wax faces what?? The only thing I'm upset with is I wasted $4 on renting it cause I'm going to buy it tomorrow.

[Deadset]

Originally Posted by Sussudio

Thanks for your thoughts, Dead (and well thought out thoughts too, it seems ) ! I look forward to seeing it too, especially since I've never seen the Extended Cut before.

Thanks, though I'm extremely tired, 2 little ones ya know

Was my first time seeing it as well, now it's my preferred cut of the movie.

[jw]

Originally Posted by Deads3t

My quick late night thoughts:

Let's get the easy part out of the way:

Sound - rocked.

Now onto the picture.

Video - 3.5/5 - the picture looks scrubbed and uneven, parts look fantastic while others look Overall though, it's very watchable for lack of a better term. I thought the dream sequences looked the best. I watched the entire extended edition and found that the more fleshed out story added to the film.

Is it better than the DVD? YES
Is it ref quality? No
Am I disappointed? No - from what people are saying it's the worst transfer ever and that simply is not true. It's not fantastic and it's not terrible. It's right in the middle.

Screen shots do NOT do the movie justice.


The movie content makes up for it and you really loose yourself in the movie and stop nit-picking every detail. Some of you people must not enjoy films, some are probably the gaming type that buy games based on graphics. I found the blu-ray to be a great addition to my collection.

Enjoy Sussudio, I highly recommend watching the extended cut. Loved the extra little bits of story.

I enjoyed it, next is Braveheart. I cant believe how everyone is still all rowled up over this

Originally Posted by Sussudio

Let's just agree to disagree then...this obviously isn't going anywhere.



Thanks for your thoughts, Dead (and well thought out thoughts too, it seems ) ! I look forward to seeing it too, especially since I've never seen the Extended Cut before.

“Don’t criticize what you don’t understand, son. You never walked in that man’s shoes.”

BTW- I just finished watching Shawn the Sheep and there was lots of grain in it, I believe the sheep were eating it On a side note, my son finally fell asleep

[Sussudio]

x3

Did you watch extended too?

[jw]

Originally Posted by Sussudio

x3

Did you watch extended too?

I only watched that version, I had seen the original some time back

[PoorSignal]

I have heard this complaint the DVD seem to have more bass.

I don't have the DVD but the BD sounded good to me, it has less bass than most modern movies, I mean with men fighting in an arena, I don't exactly expect to hear the stomping bass of optimus prime?

Yes I was thinking when the chariot hit the wall it should have had a bit more. But most other situation it seems adequate.

[SBrooks1]

Originally Posted by SBrooks1

If the video quality is given anything more than a 3.0 it will be complete BS

Good to see it was given a 3.0 like I gave it. Blu-ray.com gets much respect from me for telling it like it is and not sugar coating a mediocre release. I hope other sites follow suite.

[thebluemax]

Originally Posted by jc480

I watched the extended version last night. I saw no halos or other blatant DNR effects...the beginning arrow/fireball scenes seemed normal...perhaps if I analyzed them frame by frame I would see the anomalies.

The sound was incredible.

A worthy purchase. The extras were very awesome on this disc as well.

This flick looked great on a 60" Kuro.

It looked very good on my Kuro too, maybe not the best I have ever seen, but excellent. Why all the complaints

[Mokus76]

First let me start by saying that I was scared of Gladiator after all those reviews going around the web. So I received Gladiator today and of course the first thing was to check it out.
I might have to add that I used my average 32 inch HDTV 1080i, Onkyo 606 receiver and Sony BDP-S350. All I can say is WOW what a presentation of Gladiator. I gave the Video a solid 4 because it doesnt jump out of the screen like the new releases do. The Video could have been a little better but I think it is acceptable and if Paramount does a re-release, I will be there to get it one more time. The Audio is light years ahead of the DVD version.
I have to agree with another reviewer on here who said that" it does matter what equipment you are using" it all changes for everyone.
I cannot wait to check it out on my 60 inch DLP and Denon 2500BTCI and 2808CI with Definitive Technology speakers all around. Everything with my main setup is much better then the Onkyo and Sony. So if you got a little Sammy or Panny and not good enough HDMI's I believe not just this but every movie will suffer dramatically.

If you love Gladiator just get it especially that the movie is $22.99 at amazon.com and you get $10 in rebates if you got the DVD which most of us still have.
Same goes for Braveheart and Forrest Gump, so in reality you can save $30 all together and I think thats already worth it. One more thing I didnt mind the DNR in Gladiator I thought it was fine the way it is.


Alright I am back with my final review of Gladiator after viewing it on my Mitsubishi 60 inch 1080P DLP, Denon 2500BTCI and Audioquest HDMI cables.

I dont know how people set up their equipment but I can only imagine that most of you DO NOT adjust your HDTV's properly and same goes for the cheap Sammy, Panny, Memorex etc. Bluray players most of you use. You cannot adjust the contrast, color, DNR, Gamma on cheap players period. What my Denon 2500 did to Gladiator should be experienced by everyone who has no idea of what they are doing.
I still saw some DNR but you know what it did NOT bother me, and the movie overall is extraordinary and never looked like the way it does with my equipment.
If you want the best out of your blurays DO NOT bother with anything but Denon, Marantz, Pioneer Elite and Sony ES.
The rest is just not worth your money or time. Also if you got a TV that is 5 years or older its time to get a new one.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Gladiator and now I can only imagine Braveheart which will be in my hands on Tuesday and only because Amazon shipped it to me via Ground and it should have been Second Day Air, oh well gotta wait for that, but again no offense to anybody but understand that you get what you pay for.
If you love Gladiator and got a decent setup go for it and enjoy!

[STARSCREAM]

Originally Posted by Mokus76

First let me start by saying that I was scared of Gladiator after all those reviews going around the web. So I received Gladiator today and of course the first thing was to check it out.
I might have to add that I used my average 32 inch HDTV 1080i, Onkyo 606 receiver and Sony BDP-S350. All I can say is WOW what a presentation of Gladiator. I gave the Video a solid 4 because it doesnt jump out of the screen like the new releases do. The Video could have been a little better but I think it is acceptable and if Paramount does a re-release, I will be there to get it one more time. The Audio is light years ahead of the DVD version.
I have to agree with another reviewer on here who said that" it does matter what equipment you are using" it all changes for everyone.
I cannot wait to check it out on my 60 inch DLP and Denon 2500BTCI and 2808CI with Definitive Technology speakers all around. Everything with my main setup is much better then the Onkyo and Sony. So if you got a little Sammy or Panny and not good enough HDMI's I believe not just this but every movie will suffer dramatically.

If you love Gladiator just get it especially that the movie is $22.99 at amazon.com and you get $10 in rebates if you got the DVD which most of us still have.
Same goes for Braveheart and Forrest Gump, so in reality you can save $30 all together and I think thats already worth it. One more thing I didnt mind the DNR in Gladiator I thought it was fine the way it is.


Alright I am back with my final review of Gladiator after viewing it on my Mitsubishi 60 inch 1080P DLP, Denon 2500BTCI and Audioquest HDMI cables.

I dont know how people set up their equipment but I can only imagine that most of you DO NOT adjust your HDTV's properly and same goes for the cheap Sammy, Panny, Memorex etc. Bluray players most of you use. You cannot adjust the contrast, color, DNR, Gamma on cheap players period. What my Denon 2500 did to Gladiator should be experienced by everyone who has no idea of what they are doing.
I still saw some DNR but you know what it did NOT bother me, and the movie overall is extraordinary and never looked like the way it does with my equipment.
If you want the best out of your blurays DO NOT bother with anything but Denon, Marantz, Pioneer Elite and Sony ES.
The rest is just not worth your money or time. Also if you got a TV that is 5 years or older its time to get a new one.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Gladiator and now I can only imagine Braveheart which will be in my hands on Tuesday and only because Amazon shipped it to me via Ground and it should have been Second Day Air, oh well gotta wait for that, but again no offense to anybody but understand that you get what you pay for.
If you love Gladiator and got a decent setup go for it and enjoy!

You better throw the PS3 in there, SERIOUSLY!!! I have compared it up against stand alones and it exceeded every single one of them.
also, I think you just opened up a whole can of worms.

[david2189]

just looking at the extended scenes vs theatrical, what a difference!

im going to be buying this regardless as i want the steelbook lovelyness, im sure there will be a rerelease and when there is ill replace the disc in my steelbook.

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Wow a 3.0 on the PQ hmmm....and Patton was given a 5.0. Lets see Patton was bashed by the DNR police just as this one was. I think you better go change your grade on the Patton review now.

People's sensibilities evolve, and they usually grow more observant and aware of issues.