Gladiator (2000)

[Sagacious Koreo]

Because it didn't appear to be the "Sapphire" edition so I was curious.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by Sagacious Koreo

Because it didn't appear to be the "Sapphire" edition so I was curious.

Just checked...same transfer, different cover (someone posted the cover a while back in this or another thread).

[Sagacious Koreo]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by RIKANA

I know this is not on topic but...

Is anyone ealse haveing trobble watching Gladiator on there PS3. Please help I hve updated the system befor i got the BD.

Thanks for your help,

RI

It didn't load for me the very first time, but after that it has loaded 3 times just fine.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by benricci

Are you freakin' kidding me?

no again!

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Exactly.... I've heard comments from people here such as "Blu-ray should be so good that there isn't any grain at all" sheesh... and this is coming from people whom I'd assume have a little better understanding of film and technology than the average consumer (since they seek out info from online forums etc)



Much like Gladiator, when the price is right, I'll buy it.... although I agree with pretty much everything Gremal said as it is.......

yeh id like to know whats wrong with grain and when are the studios gonna stop catering these morons before they ruin the format altogether.
until then i guess we have to eat s%%T!

[meowCat]

Guyz, let's keep personal talk out of this. Keep on topic.


Highdefdigest just now reviewed the movie. The high quality review is here: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2524/gladiator.html They gave it 3.5 starz.


And YUP, I downloaded the 720p compressed h.264 version of Gladiator Extended Cut and just got through watching it. So I paid nothing... I give it 3.7 starz. It's not superb but pretty good. Other than *some* waxy processed faces it's stellar. Read my critique.

Rating by starz from 0 to 5:

- Blacks: 4
- Contrast / Pop: 5
- Flesh tones: 2~ 4 (EXTREMELY INCONSISTENT, flesh tones in some scenes are actually damn impressive)
- Sharpness / Details: 2~ 4 (AGAIN, AMAZINGLY INCONSISTENT, sometimes very sharp, sometimes very soft/ blurry)
- Crispiness: 4
- Crunchiness: 4
- Crystalness: 3.5
- Picture Noise Reduction: Excessive
- Edge Enhancement: Excessive
- Picture Cleanness: 5 (Very clean)
- Color Reproduction: 4.5 (Some parts are very well saturated, meaning good)
- Picture Tightness: 5
- Picture Naturalness: 2~ 4 (Again, it's inconsistent. Many scenes are not natural such as people or any other foreground objects)


Uhhhh.....what else... I will say so if I remember anything else to add. But my overall impression is that the movie looks good, good enough to enjoy.

lmao...

[meowCat]

Paramount, we gave you plenty of time, like 3 1/2 years? We were expecting more from the movie in terms of PQ. What the hell have you been doing all this time? huh? Now if this BD movie was released 3 years ago then I can understand some.... We definitely deserve to complain. You had plenty time and you didn't do shit... I will give you a year to come up with a fine transfer, a 5-star PQ. Don't tell me it's gonna take another 3~ 5 years.

[Kirsty_Mc]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

yeh id like to know whats wrong with grain and when are the studios gonna stop catering these morons before they ruin the format altogether.
until then i guess we have to eat s%%T!

+1 really bigstyle.

If it's there in the original image, I really expect it to be there on the Blu-Ray. I recieved a copy of "Fall of the Roman Empire" last week and it was DNR'd to hell and back, similar problem to what others are stating about this release. I wrote a user review and gave the PQ 2... Then some newbie reviewed it a 4.5 despite obvious glaring defects. I mean... this thing was shot on 70mm nevermind Super35!!!

What have these folk got against Romans... Consider this the start of the Anti-Roman conspiracy thread .

My mind goes back to "Close Encounters", with lots and lots of grain. Speilberg shoots apparently with high speed stock, so this is exactly how it should look. Perhaps to suit these folk we should go back to a form of pan and scan to fill up their screens, DNR all grain out of existence so it looks like a video game.

If this is the way things are going... then maybe HD-DVD was indeed good enough .

[RYJAPE21]

Just finished Gladiator and thought it looked great *shrugs*.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

It didn't load for me the very first time, but after that it has loaded 3 times just fine.

Just thought I'd throw this in here... I bought my 60gb PS3 the day it lauched. Before I watched these I updated to firmware 3.0. It took me about ten to twenty seconds from when I stuck the disc in (first time) to where it began... and for Braveheart for example I remember it showing something like a little red flag the entire time (which wasn't much) to signify it loading - it never seemed "stuck". Might be a certain PS3 model issue (or something else, who knows,) I was expecting a large delay based on what I had read, I didn't get one. The delay it took to load seemed very standard.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by TTUBatfan2008

I like grain although I do have a preference for smaller, finer grain instead of larger grain. The larger grain tends to hurt the detail of the picture. Just a couple examples that I posted over in the "Do you like grain?" thread in the Movies and TV forum:


Smaller grain in The Seventh Seal:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...774&position=2

Larger grain in The Third Man:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...195&position=6

i like the seventh seal,but was the grain on the 3rd man the film stock?

[Sasso]

I'm not sure if this question has been asked, but which version of the film should a first-time viewer see first? The theatrical cut or the extended edition?

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by Sasso

I'm not sure if this question has been asked, but which version of the film should a first-time viewer see first? The theatrical cut or the extended edition?

Ridley Scott considers the theatrical cut to be the director's cut, for what it's worth.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Kirsty_Mc

+1 really bigstyle.

If it's there in the original image, I really expect it to be there on the Blu-Ray. I recieved a copy of "Fall of the Roman Empire" last week and it was DNR'd to hell and back, similar problem to what others are stating about this release. I wrote a user review and gave the PQ 2... Then some newbie reviewed it a 4.5 despite obvious glaring defects. I mean... this thing was shot on 70mm nevermind Super35!!!

What have these folk got against Romans... Consider this the start of the Anti-Roman conspiracy thread .

My mind goes back to "Close Encounters", with lots and lots of grain. Speilberg shoots apparently with high speed stock, so this is exactly how it should look. Perhaps to suit these folk we should go back to a form of pan and scan to fill up their screens, DNR all grain out of existence so it looks like a video game.

If this is the way things are going... then maybe HD-DVD was indeed good enough .

thanks but i think hd dvd would have had the same problem.its again the studios catering to morons that want a movie to look like a video game.but someone on this forum a while back said they were now adding digital grain to some video games.i don't know if thats true but what a hoot if it is true.that would prove they don't know what grain is.

[Sasso]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Ridley Scott considers the theatrical cut to be the director's cut, for what it's worth.

Thanks. I always prefer to watch the director's cut of a film.

[little flower]

I read some of the problems with Gladiator loading on the Play Station 3. My Blu-ray player is the Samsung BD-P3600. When I first put in my Gladiator Blu-ray loaded fine right up to the Sapphire preview and than after that it would not load to the menu so I turned off the player and started over. The second time it loaded fine right to the Sapphire preview than fine right to the menu that gives you a choice which version you want to watch and I picked the extended edition and it loaded fine to that menu. Later when I turned my Blu-ray player on again and loaded fine again right to the Sapphire preview and after the preview it would not load. Last night it said I needed another firmware update. So right now I am doing the firmware update so I will see what happens after that. Right now it seems like it loads fine at first than after the Sapphire preview sometimes it loads just fine to the menu and other times it does not.

[rkolinski]

Originally Posted by TTUBatfan2008

I like grain although I do have a preference for smaller, finer grain instead of larger grain. The larger grain tends to hurt the detail of the picture. Just a couple examples that I posted over in the "Do you like grain?" thread in the Movies and TV forum:


Smaller grain in The Seventh Seal:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...774&position=2

Larger grain in The Third Man:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...195&position=6

IMO, the grain size in both of these movies doesn't bother me. One thing we can always count on with a Criterion release is that (generally, except for maybe the Last Emperor) this is a company which will use little or no DNR and EE.

Now to the Gladiator because this is the first time I've actually commented on viewing this release. I have watched both the Theatrical Release (aka "Director's Cut") and the Extended Edition twice. Personally, I wish each cut would have been released on a separate BLU disc so there would be little or no video processing. I would have been willing to pay the more premium price for a better transfer without all of the DNR, EE and the color problems which exist in both films (if they were on separate BLU's). I thought the faces were many times too PINK and I also thought that some of the night scenes shift toward the color BLUE! Because of this (and even though I own a VP50Pro which is supposed to correct poor video transfers even on BLU) I would rate the PQ as a 3/5 and the AQ a 4/5. Just my opinion but after watching Braveheart on BLU 3 times now, I was very disappointed with the presentation of Gladiator on BLU!

[BluLobsta]

So I'm better off just upconverting my Gladiator SD and should hold off on the BD until they re-release??

[banned user105]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

So I'm better off just upconverting my Gladiator SD and should hold off on the BD until they re-release??

Yes.