Gladiator (2000) - Page 76 - Blu-ray Forum

Russell_L · 09-01-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu2U

I have a new theory:

Paramount found out about the PQ issues. Stopped all production of the discs. Did and will not release screeners. Let the masses buy the copies that are made instead of throwing out all of that inventory. Plan on replacing any copies to those who make a stink about it when re-release is done. This way everybody ends up happy with the LEAST amount of financial damage.

Think about it if they pulled the release, the would have lost a boat load.

IMO

This actually sounds pretty plausible. The fact that the screeners weren't sent out (unless that just happened) is a tip-off. Now we need someone on the inside to confirm that the disc production has stopped.

persuazion · 09-01-2009, 05:49 PM

Well I bought it today and just popped it in to see what all the fuss was about. It looks good to me......the picture is clean and bright and the detail on the people is good also.Maybe Im just not too picky or I dont know what Im looking for but Im glad I bought it.I mean I spent 20 bucks on Ghostbusters and I thought that looked horrible but people on here praised it.....then I buy Gladiator and think it looks great but people on here trash it.....

Oh well,with this and Braveheart now added to my collection I can knock a few more of my most wanted Blu's off the list.

banned user105 · 09-01-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Why not discuss the post-production processing, and ACTUAL details..... and then you go on to say "You thought it was a problem with your Blu-ray player, so you put in Braveheart" so now they they're under the assumption that you either haven't watched many Blu-rays, or you're a terrible trouble-shooter.

A better letter (not that I'd waste my time) would be to say you read reviews regarding the EE and DNR of Gladiator, and then purchased it on release anyways as a fan of the film, and confirmed these reviews.

If you're gonna write a letter to complain, you may as well be up-front.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with all the HD jargon. I just wrote it how I saw it. Anyway, I'm just one person. There will be plenty of other folks voicing those specific concerns, I'm sure.

SonOfArathorn · 09-01-2009, 05:51 PM

Yeah that letter will get you nowhere, doesn't sound like you're very informed.

Anyway I found a deal to good to resist and bough them both. Braveheart is as confirmed, amazing. Gladiator however did not disappoint either, maybe it was all the negative hype but I certainly expected it to look worse than it does. In fact, at the price I got them both for I am not at all unhappy with my purchase. If they come out with something better I'll get it for sure but i expected this to be Gangs of New York bad, or Master and Commander bad. No it's not the best, but the sound is phenomenal and the PQ is a solid 4 out of 5 IMO.

Beta Man · 09-01-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by persuazion

Im glad I bought it.I mean I spent 20 bucks on Ghostbusters and I thought that looked horrible but people on here praised it.....then I buy Gladiator and think it looks great but people on here trash it.....

.

This is a good example...... so many people don't understand what good PQ is, so they turn the DNR lever to "11" for Gladiator, because people see Grain, and they think it's a bad transfer.......

Grain haters deserve DNR.

robertc88 · 09-01-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by persuazion

Well I bought it today and just popped it in to see what all the fuss was about. It looks good to me......the picture is clean and bright and the detail on the people is good also.Maybe Im just not too picky or I dont know what Im looking for but Im glad I bought it.I mean I spent 20 bucks on Ghostbusters and I thought that looked horrible but people on here praised it.....then I buy Gladiator and think it looks great but people on here trash it.....

Oh well,with this and Braveheart now added to my collection I can knock a few more of my most wanted Blu's off the list.

If it looks OK to you, don't worry about what to look for and just watch it. If it didn't look good I'm sure you would be able to give us some details on why you feel that why.

There isn't enough consistentcy with the opinions. If this was complete trash, EVERYONE would feel that way! If that was the case, I wouldn't have bought it today. Time to judge for ourselves!

DetroitSportsFan · 09-01-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

This is a good example...... so many people don't understand what good PQ is, so they turn the DNR lever to "11" for Gladiator, because people see Grain, and they think it's a bad transfer.......

Grain haters deserve DNR.

Agreed.

SonOfArathorn · 09-01-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertc88

If it looks OK to you, don't worry about what to look for and just watch it. If it didn't look good I'm sure you would be able to give us some details on why you feel that why.

There isn't enough consistentcy with the opinions. If this was complete trash, EVERYONE would feel that way! If that was the case, I wouldn't have bought it today. Time to judge for ourselves!

Agreed, I am certainly not a nit-picker but feel I have a good handle on what good PQ is, Gladiator is certainly not as good as Braveheart (which isn't perfect either, some of the night shots are a bit soft, outlawed tunes scene whenever it shows Argyle and William from the rear) but it is a good release. Sapphire series is just a fancy name, this movie belongs there on merit alone.

Blu-Runner · 09-01-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ack_bak

Here is a copy of my email sent to Paramount:

Dear Paramount,
....

ack bak wins the best email award, IMO.

persuazion · 09-01-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

This is a good example...... so many people don't understand what good PQ is, so they turn the DNR lever to "11" for Gladiator, because people see Grain, and they think it's a bad transfer.......

Grain haters deserve DNR.

I guess "good Pq" is in the eyes of the beholder......

Sussudio · 09-01-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by persuazion

Well I bought it today and just popped it in to see what all the fuss was about. It looks good to me......the picture is clean and bright and the detail on the people is good also.Maybe Im just not too picky or I dont know what Im looking for but Im glad I bought it.I mean I spent 20 bucks on Ghostbusters and I thought that looked horrible but people on here praised it.....then I buy Gladiator and think it looks great but people on here trash it.....

Oh well,with this and Braveheart now added to my collection I can knock a few more of my most wanted Blu's off the list.

Much of the grain was preserved in Ghostbusters. It wasn't scrubbed to death as it was with this, which is considered a much larger title.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Grain haters deserve DNR.

Yes they do, and they deserve this transfer. I really hope the "boo grain" discussions decrease after this release, because any time someone wants an example of when eliminating grain hurt a movie, this release is a perfect example.

Beta Man · 09-01-2009, 06:05 PM

I'm not sure it's completely kosher to put this up, but credit to Cakefoos or cakefoo or something or-other, for the screen grabs.....

He posted this, so I will relay it here.....

WHICH ONE LOOKS BETTER?

Chordata · 09-01-2009, 06:07 PM

Can't tell a difference.

On second look, the left side of his face looks more detailed in B.

Sussudio · 09-01-2009, 06:08 PM

B looks more detailed to me.

Phoenix Theory · 09-01-2009, 06:10 PM

im lost again whats wrong with gladiator ? the pq? audio?

benricci · 09-01-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xphoenix23

im lost again whats wrong with gladiator ? the pq? audio?

Did you bother to read any of the previous 76 pages?

persuazion · 09-01-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

Much of the grain was preserved in Ghostbusters. It wasn't scrubbed to death as it was with this, which is considered a much more "reputable" title.

Yes they do, and they deserve this transfer. I really hope the "boo grain" discussions decrease after this release, because any time someone wants an example of when eliminating grain hurt a movie, this release is a perfect example.

well the grain in Ghostbusters was actually a distraction for me....I guess everybody has their own opinions.Some people that use to put up Dvdbeaver reviews before to back their claim of movies with good pq are now disregarding that site all together....I guess it depends on whether the person agrees with the review or not as to whether or not the site is reputable.At least watch it first and dont go off of screengrabs to determine if its a good transfer or not.All the people who canceled their orders really have no valid points unless they watch it because they are just going off of hearsay.

Beta Man · 09-01-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

Can't tell a difference.

On second look, the left side of his face looks more detailed in B.

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

B looks more detailed to me.

For those who haven't ventured an opinion...... don't read below.

[Show spoiler]

Batman1980 · 09-01-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xphoenix23

im lost again whats wrong with gladiator ? the pq? audio?

DNRed to death, B looks better to me, a lot more detail.

Sussudio · 09-01-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

For those who haven't ventured an opinion...... don't read below.

[Show spoiler]

sorry Sussudio keeping the secret

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09-01-2009, 05:49 PM	#1502
persuazion Power Member Member since:Mar 2009 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:1525 MA collection:9 Digital collection:25 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:92	Well I bought it today and just popped it in to see what all the fuss was about. It looks good to me......the picture is clean and bright and the detail on the people is good also.Maybe Im just not too picky or I dont know what Im looking for but Im glad I bought it.I mean I spent 20 bucks on Ghostbusters and I thought that looked horrible but people on here praised it.....then I buy Gladiator and think it looks great but people on here trash it..... Oh well,with this and Braveheart now added to my collection I can knock a few more of my most wanted Blu's off the list.

09-01-2009, 05:51 PM	#1504
SonOfArathorn Power Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:549 Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:1	Yeah that letter will get you nowhere, doesn't sound like you're very informed. Anyway I found a deal to good to resist and bough them both. Braveheart is as confirmed, amazing. Gladiator however did not disappoint either, maybe it was all the negative hype but I certainly expected it to look worse than it does. In fact, at the price I got them both for I am not at all unhappy with my purchase. If they come out with something better I'll get it for sure but i expected this to be Gangs of New York bad, or Master and Commander bad. No it's not the best, but the sound is phenomenal and the PQ is a solid 4 out of 5 IMO.

09-01-2009, 06:05 PM	#1512
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I'm not sure it's completely kosher to put this up, but credit to Cakefoos or cakefoo or something or-other, for the screen grabs..... He posted this, so I will relay it here..... WHICH ONE LOOKS BETTER?

09-01-2009, 06:07 PM	#1513
Chordata Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Home of N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Can't tell a difference. On second look, the left side of his face looks more detailed in B.

09-01-2009, 06:08 PM	#1514
Sussudio Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	B looks more detailed to me.

09-01-2009, 06:10 PM	#1515
Phoenix Theory Banned Member since:Mar 2009 Location:30 Years From Now Home Theater Gallery:228 Blu-ray collection:457 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:163	im lost again whats wrong with gladiator ? the pq? audio?

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