Archived: Insiders Thread

[Farscape1]

One of the HD-DVD fanboy of course posted this on the AVS Blu-Ray forum. Ironically this so called insider was mostly pro Blu... I think BDA should out bid them if it is true.. Time to bring out the big bats....

"beatboy made a statement that Warner is being offered 225mill to go HD-DVD exclusive and that they are "very" interested. Supposedly they will decide by Friday. So we'll see if he has some true insider info.."

[WickyWoo]

Unfortunately some of the higher ups didn't count on the disruptive and defensive practices of Microsoft, in the same way that Sony got caught out by Nintendo and the Wii this time around in the games console market,

Everyone knew the Wii would do at least OK. It's got a great gimmick.

The real question is how well it's going to do come 2010. My guess? Not so good. Already Wiis are starting to pile up on Ebays and Craigslists from people for whom bowling is no longer amusing, and who don't care about any actual games

Unfortunately for HD DVD, to bring it back on topic, they don't have any such gimmick.

[dialog_gvf]

I've copied some of the posts into this thread A Future for Packaged Media?

Please continue discussion there.

Gary

[MrVorhees]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And folks, by that, he ^ doesn’t mean Sony Pictures.
He means Sony Corp.

Sony Corp. ??? SERIOUS??
Sony Corp. had a gross profit over 63.980 Billion. US-Dollar alone in the year 2006 !!

IF they enter the game......... but i dont count on it

[NutsAboutPS3]

paid/penton, not sure if this is your area, but on the subject of split rights and region coding, would it be possible for Sony or the BDA to "encourage" studios to make BDs all region where rights are split with an HD DVD exclusive studio?

For example, Next will be HD DVD exclusive in the US, and BD exclusive in the UK (released by Entertainment in Video). EIV have so far region coded their catalogue releases, presumably to be fair to companies releasing the same titles on BD later in other regions.

However, in the case of Next this seems like it would be a spectacular own goal when HD DVD pay no such consideration to protecting the revenue of companies in other regions. Making such BDs region free would at least go some way to mitigating the Paramount move.

[Farscape1]

Originally Posted by Razzy

Posted by beatboy77 on the AVS forums:

"Eitherway, if the BDA can finalize this contract that I am privy too, the Paramount announcment will be nothing more then a moot point anyway. And if they do not finalize it, it will just drag this format war on for several additional months, with still Blu-ray winning in the end anyway IMO."

He seems pretty sure. What the heck could it be?

I think he has changed his tune now...

"beatboy made a statement that Warner is being offered 225mill to go HD-DVD exclusive and that they are "very" interested. Supposedly they will decide by Friday. So we'll see if he has some true insider info.."

I mean if I where the BDA I might want to start throwing my money around now.. Might loose some cash now, but make it up later in some way..

[WickyWoo]

paid/penton, not sure if this is your area, but on the subject of split rights and region coding, would it be possible for Sony or the BDA to "encourage" studios to make BDs all region where rights are split with an HD DVD exclusive studio?

It's very likely that contracts would not allow for that.

I welcome them to try though

[gazzared_typer]

Nuts, following on from your post, can someone confirm that you can't get HD via component on EIV releases, just HDMI? ( not all of us have 1080p panels just yet).

Gazza

[ottscay]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Maybe if Paid has the time, he can address some of your specific concerns, I’ll offer my thoughts in general tomorrow.

I hate to think of why you may be waiting until tomorrow to share your thoughts... I hope it's just because you're busy today?

Thanks to Paid and Penton for all your hard work.

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

paid/penton, not sure if this is your area, but on the subject of split rights and region coding, would it be possible for Sony or the BDA to "encourage" studios to make BDs all region where rights are split with an HD DVD exclusive studio?

For example, Next will be HD DVD exclusive in the US, and BD exclusive in the UK (released by Entertainment in Video). EIV have so far region coded their catalogue releases, presumably to be fair to companies releasing the same titles on BD later in other regions.

However, in the case of Next this seems like it would be a spectacular own goal when HD DVD pay no such consideration to protecting the revenue of companies in other regions. Making such BDs region free would at least go some way to mitigating the Paramount move.

paidgeek/Penton,
Regarding the above, how does it work when Paramount releases Next on HD-DVD with no region coding? Since theoretically the distributor in Korea, where the distributor may be an independent, would lose out because the title encroach upon its business. Can the Korean distributor release its BD version of Next region free specifically to market to other countries? Or must the distributor code Region A only and limit the market to other Region A countries?


fuad

[Delta_FX]

Originally Posted by paidgeek

Do you mean can a CE3K trailer be released on an earlier title?

Originally Posted by Icemage

A PSN download would do, similar to what has already been done with The Lives of Others. Would that be possible?

Yeah, and all other movies. Like the trailers they have on the PS Store, and have the Blu-ray logo at the end.

If we can more of those trailers, that would be great.

I love collecting HD trailers, I have about 75 of them on my PS3, all in 1080p, from the Apple Trailers and Yahoo Movies sites.

[Josh]

Alright insiders, time to confirm or deny:

Originally Posted by Beatboy77

国民Lampoon's 假期是一部伟大的影片。我完全观看了它与大约20 个朋友。那一定保存了我们几乎$199.00 与什么比较它会花费去看电影看它。

Which is (of course) Chinese for "National Lampoon's Vacation is a great film. I watched it exclusively with around 20 friends. That must have saved us nearly $199.00 as compared to what it would have cost to have gone to the movies to see it."

Decrypting, we get key words like China, exclusively, 20, and $200. In National Lampoon's Vacation, they are setting out to go to "Wally World" which of couse is the podunk name for "Wal-Mart". So... $200 Blu-ray players exclusively at Walmart? Not sure where the 20 fits in. Any comments?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=36

[aygie]

quiet..............anybody there?...........

[Talkstr8t]

Originally Posted by Josh

Alright insiders, time to confirm or deny:



Which is (of course) Chinese for "National Lampoon's Vacation is a great film. I watched it exclusively with around 20 friends. That must have saved us nearly $199.00 as compared to what it would have cost to have gone to the movies to see it."

Decrypting, we get key words like China, exclusively, 20, and $200. In National Lampoon's Vacation, they are setting out to go to "Wally World" which of couse is the podunk name for "Wal-Mart". So... $200 Blu-ray players exclusively at Walmart? Not sure where the 20 fits in. Any comments?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=36

Yep, you got it exactly!

[Josh]

Originally Posted by Talkstr8t

Yep, you got it exactly!

So where does the 20 fit in? When will we see something official? Are you pulling my leg?

[bigmf]

Holy Crap!
Thanks Talk!

(Also thanks for dishing out that beating over at the other forum. Some of us really appreciate it.)

[tindizzle]

Maybe 20 was just a number to get to $200. 20 movie tickets * $10 = $200

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by tindizzle

Maybe 20 was just a number to get to $200. 20 movie tickets * $10 = $200

that occured to me, its a little high for a ticket in most places, but if beatboy lives in LA or someplace it is that high i beleve. also it could be a filler to confuse us.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Josh

Alright insiders, time to confirm or deny:



Which is (of course) Chinese for "National Lampoon's Vacation is a great film. I watched it exclusively with around 20 friends. That must have saved us nearly $199.00 as compared to what it would have cost to have gone to the movies to see it."

Decrypting, we get key words like China, exclusively, 20, and $200. In National Lampoon's Vacation, they are setting out to go to "Wally World" which of couse is the podunk name for "Wal-Mart". So... $200 Blu-ray players exclusively at Walmart? Not sure where the 20 fits in. Any comments?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=36

Nice Detective work. Just saved me a lot of time.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ottscay

I hate to think of why you may be waiting until tomorrow to share your thoughts... I hope it's just because you're busy today?

Thanks to Paid and Penton for all your hard work.

Nothing bad, just busy.
Give me a few minutes to type up my thoughts on a couple things as I’ve scanned some of the recent posts.