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sega_smasher · 06-25-2009, 06:27 PM

great job. i seen our team slipped to the 102 spot. we need to get more folding going on! wish i had a few more rigs to help but really its up to everyone on the team!

the 9600 is doing awesome though.

Folding name: SegaSmasher

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pmac · 08-16-2009, 09:47 PM

Can someone explain what is the best way to get points?

I have 2 ps3's and sometimes 1 or 2 computers going at the same time (1 is a quad core one is an Extreme processor 8 core) but the points I gain on the computers I think suck butt wads (i dont have any choice on the PS3's so I won't complain about them). I am using the GPU client on both computers. Does soemthing else work better for more points? Can you run GPU and a CPU at the same time, my computers have lots of overhead?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Here is where I am stuck for the beta installs.
6.23
i rename the exe to fah6 like it recommends (no biggie there)
when I type in c:\fah\fah6 -configonly -smp and hit return, it does nothign just returns to the command prompt.
to experament I installed the 5.9x version exe and renamed it to fah59.exe did the -configonly command and it gave me all the questions and options like it is supposed to. But I can't get that with the 6.23 version. There are 2 6.23 versions I tried the 32/64 bit version first on a 64 bit machine running XP. I then tried the other version on the (32 bit only) on my 32 bit XP machine. No go for both choices. It just does nothing when I use any switches. even if I don't use switches it still gives me nothing.
Firewalls are off
previous versions uninstalled.
5.9x seems to work fine

What the heck am I doing wrong? for the options not to show up???

EDIT: It's late and I am tired, but I think I figured this all out. I was not looking and missed the 6.24 drop in exe the 6.23 had expired. I have 6.24 up and running on my laptop now (machine #5) since it is on 24/7 pretty much I figured why not let it chip in, and hopefully the client doesnt make my laptop bogged down, but I doubt that.

Nathan P · 08-17-2009, 05:20 PM

Hi pmac

Welcome to the team and thanks for the contribution

Yes you can use the GPU and CPU clients at the same time, many people do including myself. (3 x GPU and 1 x CPU). There are a few things that you should know however

1. The GPU clients only work on nvida 8xxx or ATI 2xxx series GPU's or greater.
2. Like the SMP client the GPU client is in beta - its very stable but does need a bit nore babysitting than the classic CPU client
3. You GPU's will run hot - be prepared to add extra cooling and turn existing fans to max.
4. If you use windows as your folding O/S xp is a lot better than vista, the main reason being that multi monitor support in vista is a PITA

The good news:- you will get an awful lot of work done. A single 8800gt will give about 3k-5kPPD, a GTX 295 card running 2 x GPU clients will give you 14,000PPD. My folding rig averages about 11k PPD with the odd contribution from my main gaming rig.

Dowlaod and install instructions can be found here:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

If you have an actual 8 core machine (not a quad with hyper threading) you may be interested in this - but it needs linux/a mac to run http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=10697

The most you can run in the way of GPU clients is 8 clients on 4 x GTX295/GX2 cards in a single machine. This would give you about 55k points per day plus the CPU on top of that

Your quad should give about 2.5kPPD by itself depending on what else it gets used for, - your other box - i don't know without the specs.. If you let me know what its got I can give you a rough idea of what to expect out of it

Hope this helps and fold on

pmac · 08-17-2009, 08:19 PM

So here is my questions at this stage then:

How do I go about installing more than 1 client per machine of the SMP for example. Do I just install to a new folder c:\FAH2 for the second install? Or can you just run multiple instances from the same folder just starting up a new dos window. Does any of that make sence?
Do you need to allocate a core per folder or just let it run? i.e. instance 1 locked to core 1 instance 2 locked to core 2 etc? If so how do you do that?

Laptop is what it is, I will only ever run 1 instance of it.

PC 1 is a quad core 6600 with dual ATI 4850 crossfire. 6 gig ram ddr3. Currently running 1 SMP client without problems. Windows XP x64, I tried running the GPU too last night but the GPU kept crashing.

PC 2 is an extreme processor (Whether this is an 8 core or not I am not 100% sure but it shows up that way under Device Manager, just like the quad shows 4 cores, the extreme shows 8) with dual 4870 crossfire . 6 gig ram ddr3. Curently running 1 GPU and one SMP client without problems. Windows XP 32bit

Thanks for all the help

Nathan P · 08-18-2009, 06:34 PM

With machine 1 your best bet for now is to leave it as it is - lets see if we can get you gpu folding first.

Machine 2 sounds like it is probably an i7 machine, for this one for now the command line should have the argument -smp after the name of the executable, change that to -smp 8 to get it to use all cores.

For the GPU's lets start on machine 1, a good idea would be to have a copy of the following guide on the laptop so you can refer to it as you go.

Link to multi GPU guide:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGPUGuide#ntoc4

1. Download and install the latest ATI drivers
2. Create a seperate profile in the display driver control panel that does not have crossfire enabled - i suggest calling it folding profile or something similar
3. Delete any existing Folding at home GPU installations and redownload and install the client but do not run the client at this point as its easier to configure them whilst still unused.
4. Follow the instructions in the guide above - they are straight forward but don't rush them - i did and had to spend 30 minutes reconfiguring my 2nd gpu client

5. Download and install a utility called Fahmon (if you don't already have it) this will allow you to monitor all of your clients on each machine and troubleshoot any problems you may have -
Fahmon can be found here:-
http://fahmon.net/download.html Help instructions on setting up fahmon can be found here:- http://trac.fahmon.net/
6. Run Fahmon and then load up the first gpu client - make sure that runs stable and then load up the rest of the clients one at a time.

For machine 2 you are already half way there - create the folding profile in the display driver control panel and then follow the instructions in the multi GPU guide and start folding - again i would recommend Fahmon to monitor your clients, there is a section just after the beginning giving advice if you are moving from a single gpu to multi gpu's

One thing to note - Fah can get upset with overclocked hardware, if you have problems after the installs and you are overclocking try going back to stock clocks and restarting the clients.

Hope this is of further use to you

melikefish · 08-19-2009, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmac

Thanks for all the help

Welcome pmac to the team!

I agree with Nathan P's suggestions - especially that if you are running windows the gpu clients are the way to go in terms of maximizing points. And FahMon is a great tool - my only wish is that it could connect and monitor the PS3 somehow

Just for reference I have an ATI 4870 standalone that generates about 3200 points per day (ppd) on a Windows Q6600 box oc'd to 3 GHz which runs the Windows smp client at 2000 ppd, for a total of 5200 or so for that box. (I was running that box as a linux box before then with 5500+ ppd, so it was a wash after moving back to windows and adding the 4870).

This compares to another Q6600 (stock clock) box I have running 64-bit linux, where I'm getting 4600 ppd, and a E6200 chip running 64-bit linux that gets 2000 ppd. (PPD can go up and down depending on the projects that are being worked). If you want to maximize your cpu point production, run 64-bit linux. But even if you are running windows, whenever you have a chip with more than one core, run the smp client.

pmac · 08-19-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan P

With machine 1 your best bet for now is to leave it as it is - lets see if we can get you gpu folding first.

Machine 2 sounds like it is probably an i7 machine, for this one for now the command line should have the argument -smp after the name of the executable, change that to -smp 8 to get it to use all cores.

For the GPU's lets start on machine 1, a good idea would be to have a copy of the following guide on the laptop so you can refer to it as you go.

Link to multi GPU guide:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGPUGuide#ntoc4

1. Download and install the latest ATI drivers
2. Create a seperate profile in the display driver control panel that does not have crossfire enabled - i suggest calling it folding profile or something similar
3. Delete any existing Folding at home GPU installations and redownload and install the client but do not run the client at this point as its easier to configure them whilst still unused.
4. Follow the instructions in the guide above - they are straight forward but don't rush them - i did and had to spend 30 minutes reconfiguring my 2nd gpu client

5. Download and install a utility called Fahmon (if you don't already have it) this will allow you to monitor all of your clients on each machine and troubleshoot any problems you may have -
Fahmon can be found here:-
http://fahmon.net/download.html Help instructions on setting up fahmon can be found here:- http://trac.fahmon.net/
6. Run Fahmon and then load up the first gpu client - make sure that runs stable and then load up the rest of the clients one at a time.

For machine 2 you are already half way there - create the folding profile in the display driver control panel and then follow the instructions in the multi GPU guide and start folding - again i would recommend Fahmon to monitor your clients, there is a section just after the beginning giving advice if you are moving from a single gpu to multi gpu's

One thing to note - Fah can get upset with overclocked hardware, if you have problems after the installs and you are overclocking try going back to stock clocks and restarting the clients.

Hope this is of further use to you

WoW, just WoW. Thanks for that detailed explanation. I will have to sit down one day in the near future to absorb it all and try it all out. Currently I am having problems running both boxes and my airconditioner at the same time. I keep popping the circut breaker. But both machines create so much heat I have to run the AC unit. So something has to change somehow.
Machine 2 is an i7 machine. Nothing is overclocked.

mikelfish, Linux isn't an option. I don't know if it will have all the drivers, and I don't know if it will allow all the software the kids use (tons of computer games and related stuff)

I will follow up when I get a chance to look at the configuration. For today, I am going to Canada's Wonderland with the wife and kids. GOD HELP ME!

pmac · 08-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Nathan P:

One more question.

With the -smp 8 switch...

When I start the client up do i need to type "fah6 -smp8" or is that only something I have to do on the first fah -configonly -smp 8 run.

If I have to do the -smp 8 everytime it starts up how do you do that if it runs as a service...or should I not run as a service?

Nathan P · 08-19-2009, 01:38 PM

Ask away - we are here to help

The easiest way would be to set it on the config only run, it should force the client to recognize that there are 8 cores there and use all of them.

As for running the SMP client as a service stanford do not recommend running it as a service especially under XP. If you want to give it a go though the guides are here:

Deino Client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideDEINO#ntoc5
MPICH client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideMPICH#ntoc5

I've included both guides as i don't know which client you are using.

As for the heat - yeah its a killer at this time of year, when it gets colder though consider it free heat for your house/apartment

Enjoy the day out

pmac · 08-19-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan P

As for the heat - yeah its a killer at this time of year, when it gets colder though consider it free heat for your house/apartment

Enjoy the day out

Bwahahahahahahahaha FREE HEAT LOL Way too funny. with one PC with an 850watt PS and 650 in the other, they are anything but free ....But i get your point

EDIT: You bring up another good point.

between those two clients .... Whats the difference, I am currently using the one that starts with M

Deino Client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideDEINO#ntoc5
MPICH client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideMPICH#ntoc5

I will be configuring m i7 machine in a couple of hours (attempting to).

Nathan P · 08-19-2009, 08:15 PM

I actually don't know as i'm waiting for some more ram before i start my smp experiments

, a quad core would be nice as well but since the machine is only for folding it needs to be cheaper than what the chips cost at present.

From the looks of the 2 guides i think that the MPICH client is slightly easier to install but maybe melikefish will be able to advise further. The deino client is 32bit only whilst MPICH is 32 or 64bit. Someone did pose this question on the F@h forum some months back but no one has replied - i'll see if i can get any answer.

Edit:
The MPICH client is very slightly quicker but can be a bit more unstable -especially if you have any network problems. There is a solution in the FAQ though:- http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandeg...nglish/FAQ-SMP

pmac · 08-19-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan P

I actually don't know as i'm waitng for some more ram before i start my smp experiments

, a quad core would be nice as well but since the machine is only for folding it needs to be cheaper than what the chips cost at present.

From the looks of the 2 guides i think that the MPICH client is slightly easier to install but maybe melikefish will be able to advise further. The deino client is 32bit only whilst MPICH is 32 or 64bit. Someone did pose this question on the F@h forum some months back but no one has replied - i'll see if i can get any answer

thanks for checking!

Is deino GUI maybe?

Nathan P · 08-19-2009, 08:50 PM

See the edit in my previous post for a bit more info and no it doesn't look like either of them are GUI based after initial install, all setup for both clients is done on the command line. I believe that stanford are working on a GUI based client but its not their current priority for the windows SMP clients, the mac and Linux clients are already ahead in development and they would like to get windows up to the same level first. Linux/Mac users have access to a newer smp core that allows much bigger work units - its also slightly faster.

pmac · 08-19-2009, 09:12 PM

Can you run more than 1 instance of the SMP? How many is a good number for what I have (i7). Do you have to register cores to each instance? Or do i just do the following....
C:\
FAH
FAH1
FAH2
FAH3

and do the fah6 -configonly -smp 8 for each one? And it just does them all together.

My laptooop is now running with -smp 2
when I look under task manager instead of using 1 core at 100% it is using core 1 at about 80% and core 2 at 20%

pmac · 08-20-2009, 02:37 PM

Here is where I stand.

1. Multi GPU arent working, I cant extend the desktop beause I dont have a second monitor. Tried but it wont do it. Says my card isnt supported etc.

2. SMP clients:
a. Laptop is taking just over a day to complete one job of 1,500,000 steps but the jobs are only getting 255 points, so laptop will be discontinued after this latest job finishes. That just isnt worth it (sort of).
b.My i7 machine has 2 instances running of the SMP but it looks like it just takes twice as long to complete a job, when I woke up both jobs were under 20% complete with 1 day 10 hours remaining.
c. Typically, the machine is taking a day to complete 1 job under the SMP client, is that typical? Seems awfully long to me.
d. I am getting 900 points or so for the SMP jobs on the main machine so much better than the laptop but still that leaves me at 2000 points per day (GPU does 2 jobs a day I am guessing maybe 3 @ 500 points per job) when you add the GPU running too.

Nathan P · 08-20-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmac

Here is where I stand.

1. Multi GPU arent working, I cant extend the desktop beause I dont have a second monitor. Tried but it wont do it. Says my card isnt supported etc.

2. SMP clients:
a. Laptop is taking just over a day to complete one job of 1,500,000 steps but the jobs are only getting 255 points, so laptop will be discontinued after this latest job finishes. That just isnt worth it (sort of).
b.My i7 machine has 2 instances running of the SMP but it looks like it just takes twice as long to complete a job, when I woke up both jobs were under 20% complete with 1 day 10 hours remaining.
c. Typically, the machine is taking a day to complete 1 job under the SMP client, is that typical? Seems awfully long to me.
d. I am getting 900 points or so for the SMP jobs on the main machine so much better than the laptop but still that leaves me at 2000 points per day (GPU does 2 jobs a day I am guessing maybe 3 @ 500 points per job) when you add the GPU running too.

Hmmm Lets take the SMP clients first as i think we will get more success quicker.

a: Dual cores with smp will be slow especailly on a laptop - my suggestion for the laptop is to use the standard CPU client and just fold when you use is - average deadlines are 40-50days, this way your laptop will still contribute but not stress it out. Points wise it is doing average - my athlon FX 62 takes just over a day to do a WU if i leave it on 24/7 - i don't because its an energy hog. My E6600 takes the same amount of time but uses half the juice. Its just a suggestion and understand if you decide not to fold on it anymore - i've done the same with my athlon box - it just does GPU units when i'm using it.
b. You would probably be better just running the one client and let it use all the cores - to run multiple SMP clients you would need to setup a VM (virtual machine) or two - your PPD would go through the roof but its not easy to setup, your i7 could get about 8k PPD easy but it would involve running linux within the VM, this would still allow normal windows programs to run - not sure about games though.
c: Your i7 machine should get just over 2300 ppd, this is not a limitation of the CPU but of the winSMP core - linux uses a newer core giving mucher greater PPD, so yes your 1 unit a day isn't far off
d: Your points on your main machine look low - but if its getting used by everything else then maybe not far off the mark - a Q6600 at stock clocks will get about 1700-2000 ppd if doing nothing but folding.

GPU Clients

OKay can you get at least one client on each machine folding??
Another trick you could try would be to connect the second card upto your monitor if your monitor has multiple monitor connections on the back - then try extending the desktop but send all the display output to one monitor - its usually called primary display or something similar.

hope this helps - i'm still doing some more research on your GPU issues - let me know how you are getting on with the above

pmac · 08-21-2009, 12:26 AM

Well we are getting there anyways. I will change the SMP to one instance I am out oif town for a bit, so will do when I get home on Saturday.

These are gaming rigs as the kids call them so this is why I never got into Linux, cant be sure all the games they want, will run in Linux. Although I hear it is just getting better and better over the years.

Thanks for the help. I will come and let you know if I need anything else to continue. Just trying to break into the top 200 at this stage.

P.S. I am of the opinion that since it is a blu-ray.com team, that all the ops should, on a semi regular basis contribute to the cause. Just a thought.

Peace

Nathan P · 08-21-2009, 08:40 PM

Thats OK - any problems i'll try to help any way i can

Don't worry you will be in the top 200 in a couple of days and at your current rate you will be in the top 100 by October

Regarding the team, people come and go, some can no longer afford to fold, some fold for different teams, some have other problems that mean they no longer fold, some are worried about damaging their kit and some don't want to. As much as i would like all member s of the forum to fold i realise its not possible and accept that people do what they can.

Xerios · 08-27-2009, 03:18 PM

whats the teams position now.. anyone lok recently?

08-16-2009, 09:47 PM	#2003
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Can someone explain what is the best way to get points? I have 2 ps3's and sometimes 1 or 2 computers going at the same time (1 is a quad core one is an Extreme processor 8 core) but the points I gain on the computers I think suck butt wads (i dont have any choice on the PS3's so I won't complain about them). I am using the GPU client on both computers. Does soemthing else work better for more points? Can you run GPU and a CPU at the same time, my computers have lots of overhead? Thanks for any help in advance. Here is where I am stuck for the beta installs. 6.23 i rename the exe to fah6 like it recommends (no biggie there) when I type in c:\fah\fah6 -configonly -smp and hit return, it does nothign just returns to the command prompt. to experament I installed the 5.9x version exe and renamed it to fah59.exe did the -configonly command and it gave me all the questions and options like it is supposed to. But I can't get that with the 6.23 version. There are 2 6.23 versions I tried the 32/64 bit version first on a 64 bit machine running XP. I then tried the other version on the (32 bit only) on my 32 bit XP machine. No go for both choices. It just does nothing when I use any switches. even if I don't use switches it still gives me nothing. Firewalls are off previous versions uninstalled. 5.9x seems to work fine What the heck am I doing wrong? for the options not to show up??? EDIT: It's late and I am tired, but I think I figured this all out. I was not looking and missed the 6.24 drop in exe the 6.23 had expired. I have 6.24 up and running on my laptop now (machine #5) since it is on 24/7 pretty much I figured why not let it chip in, and hopefully the client doesnt make my laptop bogged down, but I doubt that. Last edited by pmac; 08-17-2009 at 09:55 PM.

08-17-2009, 08:19 PM	#2005
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	So here is my questions at this stage then: How do I go about installing more than 1 client per machine of the SMP for example. Do I just install to a new folder c:\FAH2 for the second install? Or can you just run multiple instances from the same folder just starting up a new dos window. Does any of that make sence? Do you need to allocate a core per folder or just let it run? i.e. instance 1 locked to core 1 instance 2 locked to core 2 etc? If so how do you do that? Laptop is what it is, I will only ever run 1 instance of it. PC 1 is a quad core 6600 with dual ATI 4850 crossfire. 6 gig ram ddr3. Currently running 1 SMP client without problems. Windows XP x64, I tried running the GPU too last night but the GPU kept crashing. PC 2 is an extreme processor (Whether this is an 8 core or not I am not 100% sure but it shows up that way under Device Manager, just like the quad shows 4 cores, the extreme shows 8) with dual 4870 crossfire . 6 gig ram ddr3. Curently running 1 GPU and one SMP client without problems. Windows XP 32bit Thanks for all the help Last edited by pmac; 08-17-2009 at 09:59 PM.

08-19-2009, 08:15 PM	#2012
Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	I actually don't know as i'm waiting for some more ram before i start my smp experiments , a quad core would be nice as well but since the machine is only for folding it needs to be cheaper than what the chips cost at present. From the looks of the 2 guides i think that the MPICH client is slightly easier to install but maybe melikefish will be able to advise further. The deino client is 32bit only whilst MPICH is 32 or 64bit. Someone did pose this question on the F@h forum some months back but no one has replied - i'll see if i can get any answer. Edit: The MPICH client is very slightly quicker but can be a bit more unstable -especially if you have any network problems. There is a solution in the FAQ though:- http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandeg...nglish/FAQ-SMP Last edited by Nathan P; 08-19-2009 at 08:30 PM. Reason: More info

08-19-2009, 09:12 PM	#2015
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Can you run more than 1 instance of the SMP? How many is a good number for what I have (i7). Do you have to register cores to each instance? Or do i just do the following.... C:\ FAH FAH1 FAH2 FAH3 and do the fah6 -configonly -smp 8 for each one? And it just does them all together. My laptooop is now running with -smp 2 when I look under task manager instead of using 1 core at 100% it is using core 1 at about 80% and core 2 at 20% Last edited by pmac; 08-20-2009 at 02:40 PM.

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Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	Hi pmac Welcome to the team and thanks for the contribution Yes you can use the GPU and CPU clients at the same time, many people do including myself. (3 x GPU and 1 x CPU). There are a few things that you should know however 1. The GPU clients only work on nvida 8xxx or ATI 2xxx series GPU's or greater. 2. Like the SMP client the GPU client is in beta - its very stable but does need a bit nore babysitting than the classic CPU client 3. You GPU's will run hot - be prepared to add extra cooling and turn existing fans to max. 4. If you use windows as your folding O/S xp is a lot better than vista, the main reason being that multi monitor support in vista is a PITA The good news:- you will get an awful lot of work done. A single 8800gt will give about 3k-5kPPD, a GTX 295 card running 2 x GPU clients will give you 14,000PPD. My folding rig averages about 11k PPD with the odd contribution from my main gaming rig. Dowlaod and install instructions can be found here:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther If you have an actual 8 core machine (not a quad with hyper threading) you may be interested in this - but it needs linux/a mac to run http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=10697 The most you can run in the way of GPU clients is 8 clients on 4 x GTX295/GX2 cards in a single machine. This would give you about 55k points per day plus the CPU on top of that Your quad should give about 2.5kPPD by itself depending on what else it gets used for, - your other box - i don't know without the specs.. If you let me know what its got I can give you a rough idea of what to expect out of it Hope this helps and fold on

08-18-2009, 06:34 PM	#2006
Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	With machine 1 your best bet for now is to leave it as it is - lets see if we can get you gpu folding first. Machine 2 sounds like it is probably an i7 machine, for this one for now the command line should have the argument -smp after the name of the executable, change that to -smp 8 to get it to use all cores. For the GPU's lets start on machine 1, a good idea would be to have a copy of the following guide on the laptop so you can refer to it as you go. Link to multi GPU guide:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGPUGuide#ntoc4 1. Download and install the latest ATI drivers 2. Create a seperate profile in the display driver control panel that does not have crossfire enabled - i suggest calling it folding profile or something similar 3. Delete any existing Folding at home GPU installations and redownload and install the client but do not run the client at this point as its easier to configure them whilst still unused. 4. Follow the instructions in the guide above - they are straight forward but don't rush them - i did and had to spend 30 minutes reconfiguring my 2nd gpu client 5. Download and install a utility called Fahmon (if you don't already have it) this will allow you to monitor all of your clients on each machine and troubleshoot any problems you may have - Fahmon can be found here:- http://fahmon.net/download.html Help instructions on setting up fahmon can be found here:- http://trac.fahmon.net/ 6. Run Fahmon and then load up the first gpu client - make sure that runs stable and then load up the rest of the clients one at a time. For machine 2 you are already half way there - create the folding profile in the display driver control panel and then follow the instructions in the multi GPU guide and start folding - again i would recommend Fahmon to monitor your clients, there is a section just after the beginning giving advice if you are moving from a single gpu to multi gpu's One thing to note - Fah can get upset with overclocked hardware, if you have problems after the installs and you are overclocking try going back to stock clocks and restarting the clients. Hope this is of further use to you

08-19-2009, 12:50 PM	#2009
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Nathan P: One more question. With the -smp 8 switch... When I start the client up do i need to type "fah6 -smp8" or is that only something I have to do on the first fah -configonly -smp 8 run. If I have to do the -smp 8 everytime it starts up how do you do that if it runs as a service...or should I not run as a service?

08-19-2009, 01:38 PM	#2010
Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	Ask away - we are here to help The easiest way would be to set it on the config only run, it should force the client to recognize that there are 8 cores there and use all of them. As for running the SMP client as a service stanford do not recommend running it as a service especially under XP. If you want to give it a go though the guides are here: Deino Client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideDEINO#ntoc5 MPICH client:- http://folding.stanford.edu/English/...ideMPICH#ntoc5 I've included both guides as i don't know which client you are using. As for the heat - yeah its a killer at this time of year, when it gets colder though consider it free heat for your house/apartment Enjoy the day out

08-19-2009, 08:50 PM	#2014
Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	See the edit in my previous post for a bit more info and no it doesn't look like either of them are GUI based after initial install, all setup for both clients is done on the command line. I believe that stanford are working on a GUI based client but its not their current priority for the windows SMP clients, the mac and Linux clients are already ahead in development and they would like to get windows up to the same level first. Linux/Mac users have access to a newer smp core that allows much bigger work units - its also slightly faster.

08-20-2009, 02:37 PM	#2016
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Here is where I stand. 1. Multi GPU arent working, I cant extend the desktop beause I dont have a second monitor. Tried but it wont do it. Says my card isnt supported etc. 2. SMP clients: a. Laptop is taking just over a day to complete one job of 1,500,000 steps but the jobs are only getting 255 points, so laptop will be discontinued after this latest job finishes. That just isnt worth it (sort of). b.My i7 machine has 2 instances running of the SMP but it looks like it just takes twice as long to complete a job, when I woke up both jobs were under 20% complete with 1 day 10 hours remaining. c. Typically, the machine is taking a day to complete 1 job under the SMP client, is that typical? Seems awfully long to me. d. I am getting 900 points or so for the SMP jobs on the main machine so much better than the laptop but still that leaves me at 2000 points per day (GPU does 2 jobs a day I am guessing maybe 3 @ 500 points per job) when you add the GPU running too.

08-21-2009, 12:26 AM	#2018
pmac Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:469 Digital collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Well we are getting there anyways. I will change the SMP to one instance I am out oif town for a bit, so will do when I get home on Saturday. These are gaming rigs as the kids call them so this is why I never got into Linux, cant be sure all the games they want, will run in Linux. Although I hear it is just getting better and better over the years. Thanks for the help. I will come and let you know if I need anything else to continue. Just trying to break into the top 200 at this stage. P.S. I am of the opinion that since it is a blu-ray.com team, that all the ops should, on a semi regular basis contribute to the cause. Just a thought. Peace

08-21-2009, 08:40 PM	#2019
Nathan P Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Island of Jersey	Thats OK - any problems i'll try to help any way i can Don't worry you will be in the top 200 in a couple of days and at your current rate you will be in the top 100 by October Regarding the team, people come and go, some can no longer afford to fold, some fold for different teams, some have other problems that mean they no longer fold, some are worried about damaging their kit and some don't want to. As much as i would like all member s of the forum to fold i realise its not possible and accept that people do what they can.

08-27-2009, 03:18 PM	#2020
Xerios Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Irving, TX PSNetwork: Xerios Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:286 DVD collection:5 Trading Score:1	whats the teams position now.. anyone lok recently?

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