Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by BigBoxBlu

Can you just repress Primal Rage and Blue Monkey, it blows my mind, you have two releases that people want and will be ongoing sellers and all the authoring etc is paid for - but you wont repress them. Obviously you are in this business to make money, as I don't even think you know anything about most of these movies aside from what Bill has told you...which is fine....make money on repressing the stuff people want.

So you think Dark Force rose to becoming one of the most prominent cult video labels around within the short time of 3 1/2 years by knowing nothing about these movies and just aimlessly following Banana Man? Lol Dark Force knows everything about all of these movies and each one is hand selected based on a number of qualifications in order to get that prestigious Dark force spine number. Although Banana Man did assist the dark forces tremendously from the beginning, for which he is enjoying the benefits of that as we speak. But now Dark Force has become a major cult video label acquiring great titles like the recent Hundra, Fangs, Hard Rock Nightmare...etc. and putting out top quality HD releases with innovative and standout packaging. We will continue to be a major driving force in the cult home video world. Watch and see...we have some very big things to come...Dark Force 666

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

So you think Dark Force rose to becoming one of the most prominent cult video labels around within the short time of 3 1/2 years by knowing nothing about these movies and just aimlessly following Banana Man? Lol Dark Force knows everything about all of these movies and each one is hand selected based on a number of qualifications in order to get that prestigious Dark force spine number. Although Banana Man did assist the dark forces tremendously from the beginning, for which he is enjoying the benefits of that as we speak. But now Dark Force has become a major cult video label acquiring great titles like the recent Hundra, Fangs, Hard Rock Nightmare...etc. and putting out top quality HD releases with innovative and standout packaging. We will continue to be a major driving force in the cult home video world. Watch and see...we have some very big things to come...Dark Force 666

Putting out hardcore titles is a very welcome move from me. Long may it continue.

[gbm82]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Putting out hardcore titles is a very welcome move from me. Long may it continue.

you really shouldn't be thinking about anything hard right now...

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by gbm82

you really shouldn't be thinking about anything hard right now...

Six more weeks!

[Member-222782]

Dave, if you really want to sell your brand, stop using words like 'prominent' or 'prestigious'. False advertising isn't a good look

[hawkikwah]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

You're worried about 5 dollars huh? Y'know how much money it costs us to put out these damn releases? Minimum 20,000 to 40,000 on average. And a lot of time and effort. Sometimes when there are multiple orders from the same person they are shipped together but then the cost of the shipping goes up anyway than it would if it were the one movie. We get hundreds to sometimes even thousands of orders a month through the store and countless messages requesting all kinds of things from tracking numbers to changes in orders. Very difficult to keep track of as we don't have a big staff like companies like Vinegar Syndrome or Shout Factory do. Not to mention all the crap we just recently had to deal with on those custom slipcovers. So yeah you may be overreacting just a little bit. No disrespect to five dollars...

Yeah but Dave, it may cost you that amount to put those releases out, but it still doesn’t make it right to skim off of the people that are supporting you. That’s the bottom line.

The cost of the shipping may go up. But you do a flat $5 shipping rate. So that makes that point null and void.

And I know it can be tough to keep up. I ran an indie record label by myself at one point.

And tbh it’s not even the amount that matters. It’s the point of the matter. This also isn’t the first time you did something questionable with an order of mine. I let the first time slide.

I wish you all the best man. I obviously dig what you are doing. We all make mistakes. Myself included. I know sometimes it can be hard to see the trees through the forest.

[hawkikwah]

Originally Posted by bipbop13

...And all of that could have been sent via P.M. instead of trying to inflate your ego and "Oh woe is me" attitude. Go pump some roids & give the guy a break. You seemed to have skipped the part where he sent you back a wrong movie on HIS dime.

I appreciate you coming to my defense.

But just to be clear, Dave refunded me the postage balance right away when I sent him back the wrong item.

(Yet still has not refunded me the difference for paying for shipping twice)

[jmilo61]

Alright, you guys have convinced me. I'm buying that Kung Fu set now.

[WillieMLF]

Originally Posted by jmilo61

Alright, you guys have convinced me. I'm buying that Kung Fu set now.

I've been going through most of my DVDs, and I hit on a large box of forgotten CR titles, like Dandy and that kung-fu set. I applaud anyone for putting out more kung-fu, but those titles are scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel. I didn't think a set could look worse than the Needle Avenger set that Bill put out, but this one does it. Keep your expectations low.

[jmilo61]

Originally Posted by WillieMLF

I've been going through most of my DVDs, and I hit on a large box of forgotten CR titles, like Dandy and that kung-fu set. I applaud anyone for putting out more kung-fu, but those titles are scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel. I didn't think a set could look worse than the Needle Avenger set that Bill put out, but this one does it. Keep your expectations low.

You can't threaten me with a good time.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by williemlf

i've been going through most of my dvds, and i hit on a large box of forgotten cr titles, like dandy and that kung-fu set. I applaud anyone for putting out more kung-fu, but those titles are scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel. I didn't think a set could look worse than the needle avenger set that bill put out, but this one does it. Keep your expectations low.

Still the worst imo :

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by hawkikwah

(Yet still has not refunded me the difference for paying for shipping twice)

To be fair, I don’t know many businesses that do that if you make two separate orders if shipping for additional items is not arranged ahead of time. Not all systems might be setup to easily handle shipping overlap costs and refunds across multiple orders when combined. I’m sure on larger orders they start to take a hit on shipping costs (I imagine at about 3 titles it starts to cost more than $5 depending on where you live)

Amazon frequently package items together from multiple orders, if I wasn’t a Prime member and didn’t achieve free shipping on any of those orders they would certainly charge me the full amounts. Hamilton Books, a much smaller company than Amazon (but much larger than DF too) also charge a flat shipping fee for each order, even if they were made back to back and likely to be shipped in one package. I’ve certainly done multiple orders at HB in order to secure potential sellouts first and don’t hold it against them for hitting me with the multiple shipping charges, I went in knowing the terms and agreed to them when clicking that order button each time.

[Member-222782]

Every time Bill complains of something not selling I always think back to the packaging. Don't know about anyone else but if something looks and feels cheap I tend to avoid it. Even turds sell well if you put enough nice window dressing on it. Look at those Andy Milligan and Al Adamson sets from Severin. Unwatchable films in a nice boxed set = fast sellout.

[Surge92]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

So you think Dark Force rose to becoming one of the most prominent cult video labels around within the short time of 3 1/2 years by knowing nothing about these movies and just aimlessly following Banana Man? Lol Dark Force knows everything about all of these movies and each one is hand selected based on a number of qualifications in order to get that prestigious Dark force spine number. Although Banana Man did assist the dark forces tremendously from the beginning, for which he is enjoying the benefits of that as we speak. But now Dark Force has become a major cult video label acquiring great titles like the recent Hundra, Fangs, Hard Rock Nightmare...etc. and putting out top quality HD releases with innovative and standout packaging. We will continue to be a major driving force in the cult home video world. Watch and see...we have some very big things to come...Dark Force 666

But what about the Primal Rage repress? You didn't say anything about that.

[jmilo61]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Every time Bill complains of something not selling I always think back to the packaging. Don't know about anyone else but if something looks and feels cheap I tend to avoid it. Even turds sell well if you put enough nice window dressing on it. Look at those Andy Milligan and Al Adamson sets from Severin. Unwatchable films in a nice boxed set = fast sellout.

This is the long-winded version of "people buy label"

[xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx]

Originally Posted by Surge92

But what about the Primal Rage repress? You didn't say anything about that.

banana get money. you get chomps and hrpuffstuff
not time for reperess.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

And what's even more amazing is the amount of commotion stirred here over FIVE DOLLARS. It's so true that some of the biggest battles can start over the smallest thing. To be honest, we actually missed the customer's messages regarding the refund as they came in right when the new release DRIVE-IN #12 hit and we got inundated with emails. Otherwise under normal circumstances we would gladly address the issue and try to resolve it to the customer's satisfaction. Contrary to popular belief, Dark Force always aims to please.

You could have simply refunded the customer their $5 without the fanfare, but you decided to go on a diatribe about how much it costs you to put out these releases and how more items cost more to ship. It comes off as you're hard up for funds and needed that $5 to pay the bills.

[El_Fez]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

It comes off as you're hard up for funds and needed that $5 to pay the bills.

You think that hookers and blow is gonna pay for itself?

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

You think that hookers and blow is gonna pay for itself?

I don’t fault Demon Dave for wanting hobbies, looks like a fun time!

[Savage_Blu]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Decent price on those Drive In Volume 11 & 12 releases and so I pulled the trigger. Secrets of Sweet Sixteen and Sex and the Office Girl were both something I was wanting to check out... if those 2 films pan out then I'll be happy regardless of whether I like the additional double features included. Thanks Dave!

Did you received and check these out yet? I'm considering that Drive In Volume 11 & 12 bundle myself.