Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by Bradsdadg

I would imagine Dave tried offering the OCN to them in exchange of dropping the suit, but who knows

And as Don and Vlady go to shake his hand on it he smacks them over the head with the OCN film cans like it’s a metal folding chair

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

And I have most of Dark Force's UHDs but to even compare them to Synapse's releases is laughable. Dave's right, they are arguably the best presentation for these films, but they're still pretty rough compared to other company's 4K releases, and blaming it on their age and budget is not an excuse as most of Vinegary Syndrome's releases are old cheap films and they are able to still deliver top notch presentations.

The truth is, Dark Force is just a smaller company, and that's fine. Dave does what he can with the budget he has. But lets not act like his releases are top tier compared to other companies. The one thing he can easily control is transferring the extras over from the previous releases, but he can't even bother to do that. So instead we get mostly barebones releases with passable transfers and cheap flimsy slipcovers. And no, adding a commentary with himself is not better than extras of hours with cast and crew.

Anyway, not trying to knock Dave and what he has done with Dark Force. I own many of his releases and will continue to purchase them if they're good, but this whole company wars thing is silly. Comparing yourself to the company that put out Suspiria on 4K, and just recently co-released Trick or Treat that sold out with a few days? Come on now. You're still in the minor leagues. Get back to me when you can have a website open 24/7.

The company that put out SUSPIRIA (yawn) and TRICK OR TREAT lol another piece of crap like JUST BEFORE DAWN. I'm gonna be real with you blue, all these labels from Syncrap to Vinegar put out mostly B MOVIES and low budget movies that if it weren't for companies like us WOULD NEVER GET RELEASED BY THE STUDIOS. And yeah not all of our releases are perfect, the Drive-In series is a success because they are intentionally made from old 35mm prints that actually played in the drive-ins which fans love. We have improved tremendously with the quality of the releases over the years as well. Recent releases in the 4K series look incredible like DEAD PIT, MIRROR MIRROR, HOUSE OF SEVEN CORPSES...ETC look far superior than anything previous. Our upcoming mega-4K release of THE FARMER will DWARF the previous blu release GUARANTEED. But what your hero's Synapse pulled with their involvement in the trolling lawsuit against many great entities in this business is inexcusable and there are many many people that are in full agreement that they need to be brought to justice.

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by LeviCalebTitus

I don't think anyone is disagreeing if Synapse/Vlado Jr had the legal right to do it. I believe the disagreement (at least in my eyes) is they could have easily reached out to someone and said "Hey, there's nothing solid in the contract and unfortunately we'd like to release this in the future. Can you stop making/sending/selling copies?"

But no. Instead they went balls to the walls and sued everyone who was selling the movie despite these companies not even knowing there was an issue with a contract. They took things from 0 to 100 real quick and for no reason that I can see other than it was an easy way make several thousand dollars from doing nothing.

WELL SAID TITUS. These slimeballs sued companies that legitimately bought the movie to sell from KINO having NO CLUE there was a rights issue. And they made more than several thousands of dollars, trust me. It was a huge MONEY GRAB that was way more profitable than just releasing JUST BEFORE DAWN. That was the last thing on their mind, believe me.

[Nosferatu31]

Come on Demon Dave, we know you bought a copy of Trick or Trick from Synapse.

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

This exactly. How do we know Synapse didn’t reach out several times only to be ignored? Let’s be honest, as much as we all loved Bill, he wasn’t the most sane person to deal with at times. And Dave isn’t any better, acting like a wrestling villain half the time and challenging anyone that disagrees with him to fights. The truth is we don’t know the whole story, so attacking Synapse who has been in the business for a long time and put out several quality releases based on what Dave says is a little silly. He’s not really the most professional or trustworthy guy in the business and his live feeds are perfect examples of this.

LISTEN BLUEBIRD you don't have to trust me. Go speak to Mike at Grindhouse Video or Frank Tarzi at Kino or any of the other poor people named in their trolling suit. All these greedy bastards were interested in was as much money as they could grab from good people in this business that did not INTENTIONALLY infringe on anything. They didn't give a crap about the release because I offered them a high quality 4K scan of the original negative and they rejected the offer in lieu of demanding 75,000 dollars from a little streaming deal that we only netted about 3,000 from Shudder. Glad it's all silly to you but I bet if they sued your ass you wouldn't find it very silly. I am taking this DEAD SERIOUS starting with what they did to poor Banana Man and Walt while they were literally suffering and dying. SYNAPSE has a very big problem now. They opened up the GATES OF HELL!

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Come on Demon Dave, we know you bought a copy of Trick or Trick from Synapse.

You don't know me too well Nosferatu if you really think I would buy that piece of crap from Snapps. People seem to be losing track of the fact that I haven't just released a big bunch of B movies to home video but that I am the director of the most brutal film ever released that made film history with the biggest film critic in the world, Roger Ebert. I also wrote, produced and directed the first movie that launched Dave Batista into becoming one of the biggest movie stars in the world. The runts at Synapse have never done anything even come close to that. At best they did a decent job at putting out some old cult movies on video. Big freakin' deal.

[Gotho(redux)]

First, I'll give Dave props for apologizing for being a jerk to RevolverOcelScott. I doubt you will ever see Brad Henderson do that.

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

another piece of crap like JUST BEFORE DAWN.

Secondly, I know this movie has caused a lot of grief, but it still saddens me to hear it called a piece of crap. I love JBD so much and it's in my top 10 horror movies all time. I hope you guys can work out your differences, settle things, and maybe collaborate on a pristine new 4k release of JBD, complete with Jeff Leiberman's participation. Not possible, you say? Well, we never thought we would see Stone Cold joining forces with Mr. McMahon either.

[oaxaca666]

Can someone add the new Young Hannah / Doctor Death Drive In #23 blu ray release to the site please?? Received mine this morning here in the UK. Really well packaged btw, no chance of any slip damage

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

This exactly. How do we know Synapse didn’t reach out several times only to be ignored? Let’s be honest, as much as we all loved Bill, he wasn’t the most sane person to deal with at times. And Dave isn’t any better, acting like a wrestling villain half the time and challenging anyone that disagrees with him to fights. The truth is we don’t know the whole story, so attacking Synapse who has been in the business for a long time and put out several quality releases based on what Dave says is a little silly. He’s not really the most professional or trustworthy guy in the business and his live feeds are perfect examples of this.

The same was said about The Farmer when Walt released it.

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

The company that put out SUSPIRIA (yawn) and TRICK OR TREAT lol another piece of crap like JUST BEFORE DAWN.

And yet you allegedly acquired a 35mm of JBD.

[wicky_J]

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

The company that put out SUSPIRIA (yawn) and TRICK OR TREAT lol another piece of crap like JUST BEFORE DAWN.

Have you actually watched some of the (yawn) “crap” you put out ?

[yourmomcalled]

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

I also wrote, produced and directed the first movie that launched Dave Batista into becoming one of the biggest movie stars in the world.

Comedy at its finest.

[cloudnine]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

This exactly. How do we know Synapse didn’t reach out several times only to be ignored? Let’s be honest, as much as we all loved Bill, he wasn’t the most sane person to deal with at times. And Dave isn’t any better, acting like a wrestling villain half the time and challenging anyone that disagrees with him to fights. The truth is we don’t know the whole story, so attacking Synapse who has been in the business for a long time and put out several quality releases based on what Dave says is a little silly. He’s not really the most professional or trustworthy guy in the business and his live feeds are perfect examples of this.

Are you saying Dave makes a fool out of himself during these live feeds?

[yourmomcalled]

Originally Posted by Plesiosaurus

Oh, and speaking of crap, when will we see the next DF announcement?

I’m hoping for a 4k of Teenage Mother with an embossed glow in the dark slipcover, that can only be purchased between 2:30am-3:15am on some random Thursday morning.

[Energy Crisis]

Originally Posted by yourmomcalled

I’m hoping for a 4k of Teenage Mother with an embossed glow in the dark slipcover, that can only be purchased between 2:30am-3:15am on some random Thursday morning.

That sounds like nine months of trouble to me.

[Klimon787]

Originally Posted by Plesiosaurus

The live feeds aren't the only places he makes a fool out of himself but he's doing it best here. He's holding the OCN to a dearly beloved film hostage - a film he is calling crap, mind you - in some petty scheme to get back at Synapse, a behemoth of a label that's been around long before Dork Farce, when DeFalco was just a name on a rusty mailbox. The OCN doesn't belong to him and he needs to return it to the rights holder so Synapse can proceed with the 4K release. It won't happen until that OCN finds it way to its rightful owners. This whole label war thing is so stupid and won't achieve SQUAT. Well, we won't get JBD on 4K.

Oh, and speaking of crap, when will we see the next DF announcement?

Did you even watch the latest live? It's actually Synapse who's been keeping JBD hostage, making petty excuses why it's not out. They started this MESS!!

Right now, you're making it about Me, Me, Me. This isn't about you, and your wants! JBD will eventually be released again. This is about justice being served. Cos what Synapse have done is unspeakable- the unnecessary pain and suffering they have inflicted on so many but particularly, the Olsen brothers.

Demon Dave has really opened my eyes to a different side of Synapse that I never knew existed. He's character is to be admired, and I can't wait to see him pummel the f**k out of Synapse. And if that leads to Synapse no longer being around, so be it. They don't deserve to be in the industry

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Klimon787

Demon Dave has really opened my eyes to a different side of Synapse that I never knew existed.

You mean the fantasy side?

[redrunner97]

Did you even watch the latest live? It's actually Synapse who's been keeping JBD hostage, making petty excuses why it's not out. They started this MESS!!

Right now, you're making it about Me, Me, Me. This isn't about you, and your wants! JBD will eventually be released again. This is about justice being served. Cos what Synapse have done is unspeakable- the unnecessary pain and suffering they have inflicted on so many but particularly, the Olsen brothers.

Demon Dave has really opened my eyes to a different side of Synapse that I never knew existed. He's character is to be admired, and I can't wait to see him pummel the f**k out of Synapse. And if that leads to Synapse no longer being around, so be it. They don't deserve to be in the industry

Is this Dave's burner account?

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by Klimon787

Did you even watch the latest live? It's actually Synapse who's been keeping JBD hostage, making petty excuses why it's not out. They started this MESS!!

Right now, you're making it about Me, Me, Me. This isn't about you, and your wants! JBD will eventually be released again. This is about justice being served. Cos what Synapse have done is unspeakable- the unnecessary pain and suffering they have inflicted on so many but particularly, the Olsen brothers.

Demon Dave has really opened my eyes to a different side of Synapse that I never knew existed. He's character is to be admired, and I can't wait to see him pummel the f**k out of Synapse. And if that leads to Synapse no longer being around, so be it. They don't deserve to be in the industry

Exactly Kilmon and its all been going on for YEARS! I'm not the one that abandoned the original negative to JBD like it was garbage, then figured out a great way they could pull a huge money grab at the expense of the poor Olsen brothers while they were dying and many other good people in this business like Kino, Ronin, Grindhouse Video, Diabolik, Amazon, Shudder, AMC...etc...etc... with their despicable trolling money grabbing lawsuit. It's all PUBLIC RECORD in black and weight yet heroes like rdoloak and plesiosaurus continue to want to DEFEND them. It truly is despicable. If I ever pulled something like that where I am from I would get hung. And it really baffles me that no one has had the balls to fight these cowards and challenge the validity of their crap suit. I don't care what goofy movies these guys put out or their restorations, Synapse are total scum and need to be ridded from this industry. I'm the guy to do it too.

[Demon Dave]

Originally Posted by redrunner97

Is this Dave's burner account?

Why would I need a burner account roadrunner? I say it right to their goofy lookin' faces. If you think what they did is cool, maybe you want to help them get their crappy negative back like I was trying to do. Go watch tonight's live feed. The guy that does have the negative also hates their guts and Vlado too. The only thing left I can think of that he might go for is HELL IN A CELL with me, Vlado and Synapse. If they survive, he releases the neg. I would love to throw you and rdoloak in too for a quick warm up.

[Klimon787]

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

Exactly Kilmon and its all been going on for YEARS! I'm not the one that abandoned the original negative to JBD like it was garbage, then figured out a great way they could pull a huge money grab at the expense of the poor Olsen brothers while they were dying and many other good people in this business like Kino, Ronin, Grindhouse Video, Diabolik, Amazon, Shudder, AMC...etc...etc... with their despicable trolling money grabbing lawsuit. It's all PUBLIC RECORD in black and weight yet heroes like rdoloak and plesiosaurus continue to want to DEFEND them. It truly is despicable. If I ever pulled something like that where I am from I would get hung. And it really baffles me that no one has had the balls to fight these cowards and challenge the validity of their crap suit. I don't care what goofy movies these guys put out or their restorations, Synapse are total scum and need to be ridded from this industry. I'm the guy to do it too.

I believe you 100%. Too many cowards and too much apathy, a BIG reason why the world is so f***ed up today!

I'll pick up a couple of things from your store for Black Friday. This will actually be my first Dark Force order