You're joking right? "No, there is another." "Your sister.... If you will not turn. Perhaps she will." She is a Skywalker and Force sensitive and Lucas always intended Luke's sister to be a Jedi. The sequel trilogy was originally intended to beabout Luke's sister becoming a Jedi. I mean I guess they could change it, but smart money is on her being a jedi.
Leia was not originally intended to be Luke's sister. That crap wasn't decided until they made ROTJ. And they only included it to answer the question of "the other" Yoda spoke of in TESB. It was always supposed to be Luke's sister, but not Leia. And it wouldn't have been revealed until the next trilogy. Then Lucas decided there wouldn't be a next trilogy and wrapped everything up in ROTJ.
Still, Leia had not developed any of her abilities and had absolutely zero training. You can assume after ROTJ she went into Jedi training with Luke, but it's also just as likely she focused on building up the New Republic after the fall of the Empire and left the magic stuff to Luke.
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As far as Luke, Han, and Leia is concerned Lucas has told them where they are and who they are at this point in the story.
And you don't think he's taken into the actor's current ages and physical well-being? It's been 30 years since the end of ROTJ. I don't think Luke, Han, and Leia are going to be hopping around the galaxy killing bad guys.
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Leia was not originally intended to be Luke's sister. That crap wasn't decided until they made ROTJ. And they only included it to answer the question of "the other" Yoda spoke of in TESB. It was always supposed to be Luke's sister, but not Leia. And it wouldn't have been revealed until the next trilogy. Then Lucas decided there wouldn't be a next trilogy and wrapped everything up in ROTJ.
Still, Leia had not developed any of her abilities and had absolutely zero training. You can assume after ROTJ she went into Jedi training with Luke, but it's also just as likely she focused on building up the New Republic after the fall of the Empire and left the magic stuff to Luke.
I said exactly that in my post.
Oops you read my post before I editied it. Go back and read it.
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Bob Iger wants to secure Disney’s creative and competitive future at a time when consumers are inundated with entertainment choices, and Lucasfilm fits in perfectly with his strategy to acquire companies, such as Pixar and Marvel, which are capable of driving all of Disney’s businesses, from movies and television shows to theme parks, toys, and beyond. Lucas’s needs in this deal were more emotional. At 68, he was ready to retire and escape from the imaginary world he created—but has found that letting go is more difficult than he had anticipated.
Devin Leonard details how Lucas deeply respects what Iger has done with other corporate purchases – keeping the creative team in place and maintaining the culture. But Lucas still had his reservations and was reluctant to hand over scripts for the upcoming Star Wars trilogy to Disney until late in negotiations. In the story Iger makes it clear that Lucas’s advice will be welcomed going forward – Lucas has attended story meetings for the new Star Wars film – but that Disney, not Lucasfilm, would have final say over any future movies. Lucas also says which members of the original cast will appear in Episode VII, and Kathleen Kennedy discusses becoming President of Lucasfilms.
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*“Asked whether members of the original Star Wars cast will appear in Episode VII and if he called them before the deal closed to keep them informed, Lucas says, ‘We had already signed Mark and Carrie and Harrison—or we were pretty much in final stages of negotiation. So I called them to say, ‘Look, this is what’s going on.’ He pauses. ‘Maybe I’m not supposed to say that. I think they want to announce that with some big whoop-de-do, but we were negotiating with them.’”
*”In May 2011 Iger met Lucas for breakfast at the Hollywood Brown Derby, one of Disney World’s restaurants…Iger inquired whether Lucas would ever consider selling his company. Lucas replied that he’d recently celebrated his 67th birthday and was starting to think seriously about retiring… ‘I’m not ready to pursue that now,’ he told Iger. ‘But when I am, I’d love to talk.’”
*Pablo Hidalgo, founding member of the Star Wars Fan Boy Association, who is now a “brand communication manager” at Lucasfilm gave Disney a tour of the Holocron which “lists 17,000 characters in the Star Wars universe inhabiting several thousand planets over a span of 20,000 years.”
*Alan Horn, chairman of Walt Disney Studios: “We needed to have an understanding that if we acquire the company, despite tons of collegial conversations and collaboration, at the end of the day, we have to be the ones who sign off on whatever the plans are.”
*“At first Lucas wouldn’t even turn over his rough sketches of the next three Star Warsfilms. When Disney executives asked to see them, he assured them they would be great and said they should just trust him… Once Lucas got assurances from Disney in writing about the broad outlines of the deal, he agreed to turn over the treatments—but insisted they could only be read by Horn and Kevin Mayer, Disney’s executive vice president for corporate strategy. ‘We promised,’ says Iger. ‘We had to sign an agreement.’”
*“At the end of October, Iger arranged for Lucas to fly down to Disney’s Burbank headquarters and sign the papers. He thought Lucas seemed melancholy. ‘When he put that pen to the piece of paper, I didn’t detect a hesitation,’ Iger says. ‘But I did detect there was a lot of emotion. He was saying goodbye.’”
*“The day after the deal closed [Iger] went trick-or-treating with his family. ‘I was Darth Vader,’ he says.
Leia was not originally intended to be Luke's sister. That crap wasn't decided until they made ROTJ. And they only included it to answer the question of "the other" Yoda spoke of in TESB. It was always supposed to be Luke's sister, but not Leia. And it wouldn't have been revealed until the next trilogy. Then Lucas decided there wouldn't be a next trilogy and wrapped everything up in ROTJ.
Still, Leia had not developed any of her abilities and had absolutely zero training. You can assume after ROTJ she went into Jedi training with Luke, but it's also just as likely she focused on building up the New Republic after the fall of the Empire and left the magic stuff to Luke.
And you don't think he's taken into the actor's current ages and physical well-being? It's been 30 years since the end of ROTJ. I don't think Luke, Han, and Leia are going to be hopping around the galaxy killing bad guys.
I'm sure he has taken her age and abilities into account, but none of that effects whether she was a Jedi. She could still be a Jedi and help rebuild the Republic. And she doesn't have to be an active Jedi to be in decent shape. I'm not wanting a back flipping cgi Fisher wielding a lightsaber. I want Leia, and Fisher in her current shape and mind ain't Leia.
I don't know how they will play it, but I don't even think politician Leia would let herself get the way Carrie Fisher has. Leia is a fighter whereas Carrie Fisher is a reformed coke addict with lots of issues. There is big difference between the two, and most likely no one would ever cast the current Fisher as Leia if she hadn't already played her originally. Fisher is just too far gone from Leia for me to take her seriously in the role. That being said if she can get her shit together and get in the mindset I'm open to her surprising me. Until we see the first picture of her in costume or in the trailer I'm just a litte scared of what we might get is all.
I'm sure he has taken her age and abilities into account, but none of that effects whether she was a Jedi. She could still be a Jedi and help rebuild the Republic. And she doesn't have to be an active Jedi to be in decent shape. I'm not wanting a back flipping cgi Fisher wielding a lightsaber. I want Leia, and Fisher in her current shape and mind ain't Leia.
I don't know how they will play it, but I don't even think politician Leia would let herself get the way Carrie Fisher has. Leia is a fighter whereas Carrie Fisher is a reformed coke addict with lots of issues. There is big difference between the two, and most likely no one would ever cast the current Fisher as Leia if she hadn't already played her originally. Fisher is just too far gone from Leia for me to take her seriously in the role. That being said if she can get her shit together and get in the mindset I'm open to her surprising me. Until we see the first picture of her in costume or in the trailer I'm just a litte scared of what we might get is all.
Why aren't you complaining about Mark Hamill? He's looking pretty old and fat for a Jedi...
Or is it only women that should look a certain way?
Why aren't you complaining about Mark Hamill? He's looking pretty old and fat for a Jedi...
Or is it only women that should look a certain way?
No, I have reservations about Hamill as well, but Luke is a lot harder to cut. And Hamill has a lot fewer issues than Fisher. I want both men and women to fit their roles. And at the same time I don't want my heros to look like my grandparents.
Little late for that. Would you rather Luke et al. not be in the movie?
Honestly, I don't want to make that call because all three actors still can surprise me. It's too early for me to say it is a good or bad idea to have them back. There is potential at this point. Right now I just want to plan for the worst and hope for the best.
I don't care how she looks in real life. Feel free to do whatever you want with your body as far as I'm concerned. But in a film you are playing a character, and Leia being a Jedi would not have let herself go like that. Especially in a culture that advanced. A double chin and worn out body from life of coke addiction isn't Leia. It's just Carrie Fisher. Seeing these characters in this type of shape is not a dream come true it is a nightmare. No one wants to see their heros turn into this.
I don't really see the problem. Are there unflattering photos floating around? Sure. But unless JJ is planning on shooting Episode VII in natural light with an iPhone I think she'll be just fine.
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And at the same time I don't want my heros to look like my grandparents.
You do want your heros to look like your grandparents...
I don't really see the problem. Are there unflattering photos floating around? Sure. But unless JJ is planning on shooting Episode VII in natural light with an iPhone I think she'll be just fine.
You do want your heros to look like your grandparents...
I do want my heros to look like my grandparents...
Still, Leia had not developed any of her abilities and had absolutely zero training. You can assume after ROTJ she went into Jedi training with Luke, but it's also just as likely she focused on building up the New Republic after the fall of the Empire and left the magic stuff to Luke.
The hell she hasn't! Force eat?
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I don't care how she looks in real life. Feel free to do whatever you want with your body as far as I'm concerned. But in a film you are playing a character, and Leia being a Jedi would not have let herself go like that. Especially in a culture that advanced. A double chin and worn out body from life of coke addiction isn't Leia. It's just Carrie Fisher. Seeing these characters in this type of shape is not a dream come true it is a nightmare. No one wants to see their heros turn into this.
Thank you! If your going to play the character get it in gear.
I don't really see the problem. Are there unflattering photos floating around? Sure. But unless JJ is planning on shooting Episode VII in natural light with an iPhone I think she'll be just fine.
You do want your heros to look like your grandparents...
Fisher + Lens Flare = win
Old Ben looked nothing like Ewan = win
These people (Fisher, Hammil et al) have roles in ep VII not STARRING roles
I'm fedexing you a chill pill There are plenty of good looking actresses in their 50s. Just because you get old doesn't mean you need to punt.
No it doesnt - but there is such a thing as aging gracefully and just letting nature take its course. Many of those good looking chicks in their 50's or 60's have had more work done to them than a broken down English sports car. It shows too - they look fake with caked on skin jobs, liposuction, and enough anti-wrinkle cream to make granpdpas scrotum look fresh and smooth.
Also, everyones body is different. Some people simply look better as they age. Genetics plays a big role. Kind of how we all have a friend who can eat whatever they ant and not work out at all who stay thin. Or guys that go bald at 25 and others have a rug even at 70 years old.
I'm thinking Episode VII will have short roles for the previous cast to kill off the characters of Solo and the Skywalkers. The new series will take off with a new cast (hopefully no one from Twilight), new setting, new storyline, and so on. Just my prediction.
I'm thinking Episode VII will have short roles for the previous cast to kill off the characters of Solo and the Skywalkers. The new series will take off with a new cast (hopefully no one from Twilight), new setting, new storyline, and so on. Just my prediction.
Thats fair and thats what I think most of us want. The original three MUST be in the film at some level and its got to be more than just a wink-wink cameo.
That being said, it is also important to ween us grizzled SW fans off of them and setup the new characters, mainly Jaina & Jacyn Solo and whomever else comes into play. They CAN get this right. They COULD also ruin it forever. No Twilight cast whatsofockingever. Or I wil light a bucket full of puppies on fire and summon Satan to destroy the Earth.
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