Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by JackKnightStarman

You do know that after the subtitle of episode IV was added back in the rerelease of 78, Lucas said it was a nine part story...or that Disney/Lucasfilm have consulted him about the storyline for the next three episodes...

I thought "A New Hope" was added in '81, after the initial release of "Empire".

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by JackKnightStarman

You do know that after the subtitle of episode IV was added back in the rerelease of 78, Lucas said it was a nine part story...or that Disney/Lucasfilm have consulted him about the storyline for the next three episodes...

Nope nope!

He had a vague idea of a longer story but the whole "9 episodes planned out" thing is fan myth. He has also gone on record a tooooon of times saying it's Anakin's story and it's finished with episode 3, six total. Also while Disney did consult with him it was confirmed none of his idea were used.

[JackKnightStarman]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I thought "A New Hope" was added in '81, after the initial release of "Empire".

You are right. I got my re release dates mixed up...

[JackKnightStarman]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Nope nope!

He had a vague idea of a longer story but the whole "9 episodes planned out" thing is fan myth. He has also gone on record a tooooon of times saying it's Anakin's story and it's finished with episode 3, six total. Also while Disney did consult with him it was confirmed none of his idea were used.

Sorry but it was in a magazine called starlog back in the eighties. Also when he was working on the prequels, specifically ep I he stated he didn't have a desire to do all nine eps, and said he would probably be dead before he finished or at least be extremely old. He also stated a desire to do other projects after the prequels.

[JackKnightStarman]

I read a lot about the movies and such. Just so you know...read the star wars wiki...in the " splinter of the minds eye" novel rerelease in '94, Lucas wrote a preface about how the movies were envisioned in nine parts...

[aiman04]

He did plan for 9 episodes, actually in his famous binder of yellow ruled paper he even wrote down blank sections for episodes 10-12. He talked to Mark Hammil in 1982 about doing a sequel trilogy "30 years from now" or something to that effect. But once he got into the prequels, he realized it will take 10 years for another trilogy, and that will be daunting commitment at his age. So he really did decide to end the saga with 6 episodes in 2005, he wasn't lying he really meant it. Then came the idea of passing the torch to someone else so I guess this is when the thought of the sequel trilogy came back again. So in June 2012 he appointed Kathleen Kennedy as co-chair of Lucasfilm and eventually the president once the deal with Disney came through.

[Geoff D]

You're right aiman, he did indeed think about doing a sequel trilogy and more. I've got a BBC documentary where Spielberg and Rick McCallum both explicitly say on camera that 9 episodes was the plan, but after the prequels were finished Lucas came out and said that the sequel trilogy was a myth, that he wanted to tell the story of Anakin which was now done, and that talk of the other episodes was a "creation of the media", despite one of his best friends and one of his closest confidants saying otherwise.

If he'd simply said that he was done with Star Wars there'd be no argument, but he always has to take it further, to stamp his ego on everything by tailoring the truth to fit his own ends. That's why I generally take anything he says with an Endor-sized chunk of salt: the man has been consumed by his own myth.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Not saying I agree with those people but Georgie did say the saga was over with 6, named the BD set "the complete saga" and never shut up about it being one complete story about Anakin and blah blah blah. So I don't blame people for seeing more films as a sort of bastardizing cash-grab in some sense.

Heh. That leads in to what I just said: the myth that Lucas created around him is swallowed not only by himself but his acolytes too, those people who've accepted the 'no more movies' line even though George had himself thought about doing plenty more back in the day. Disney have ultimately ignored his ideas, yes, but the very fact that he gave them story treatments as part of the LFL buyout deal flies in the face of the established Lucas lore that it was only ever going to be 6 episodes.

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Anyway I'm gonna go now before I play devil's advocate to the point of suspension.

I'm surprised you haven't got a very sore backside, all the fence sitting you've been doing lately.

[aiman04]

[Geoff D]

Brilliant.

At least it didn't have Mickey Mouse ears on it.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Nope nope!

He had a vague idea of a longer story but the whole "9 episodes planned out" thing is fan myth. He has also gone on record a tooooon of times saying it's Anakin's story and it's finished with episode 3, six total. Also while Disney did consult with him it was confirmed none of his idea were used.

So not true. Lucas was talking about 9-12 films since the 70's, it isn't fan myth, and Lucas worked up treatments for 7-9, and yeah, Kasdan and Abrams are using concepts and ideas from those, but only as inspiration. Lucas wrappped everything up in nine, LucasFilm is going to take the saga to twelve.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

So not true. Lucas was talking about 9-12 films since the 70's, it isn't fan myth, and Lucas worked up treatments for 7-9, and yeah, Kasdan and Abrams are using concepts and ideas from those, but only as inspiration. Lucas wrappped everything up in nine, LucasFilm is going to take the saga to twelve.

Well it seems he has said both things at different times, so whatever. I just said what I read, I don't care enough to battle over when he said what.

If the new movies are good then yay. If not then oh well.

[scissorpuppy]

I had heard that Lucas had decided upon 12 episodes but that Return of the Jedi was an amalgam of what 6-9 would have been, because after TESB Lucas wanted to get Star Wars over with. His ideas for 10-12 were probably used to create the layout for what he gave to Disney for 7-9.

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Well it seems he has said both things at different times, so whatever. I just said what I read, I don't care enough to battle over when he said what.

If the new movies are good then yay. If not then oh well.

That, is NOT the right attitude to have in a Star Wars forum Sir!

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

That, is NOT the right attitude to have in a Star Wars forum Sir!

I feel weird even being in these threads most of the time because I think ESB is the only great Star Wars movie and am not a super fan. I'm an ESB super fan. Where's the thread for that?

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I feel weird even being in these threads most of the time because I think ESB is the only great Star Wars movie and am not a super fan. I'm an ESB super fan. Where's the thread for that?

Here you go. This one would also work.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Here you go. This one would also work.

I see what you did there.

[Guydowood]

Originally Posted by scissorpuppy

I had heard that Lucas had decided upon 12 episodes but that Return of the Jedi was an amalgam of what 6-9 would have been, because after TESB Lucas wanted to get Star Wars over with. His ideas for 10-12 were probably used to create the layout for what he gave to Disney for 7-9.

what ever he gave Disney sucked mouse balls, since they scrapped most of his ideas for EpVII.

[Riddler The Slag]

Lego Sets for the Millenium Falcon and X-Wing plus New character leaked.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/15...e-awakens?1212

[aiman04]

Guillermo Del Toro:

“This is not real, this is me as a fat geek just geeking out and talking about it. I would do the sort of Godfather saga that Jabba the Hutt had to go through to gain control. One, because it’s the character that looks the most like me, and I like him. I love the idea of a Hutt type of mafia, a very complex coup. I just love the character.”

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/guiller...761817117.html