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filmmusic · 06-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

He basically said that people have their TVs calibrated incorrectly.

oh, yes I remember that..

CinemaScope · 06-01-2015, 10:38 PM

Maybe a better term is, clogged-up blacks. Crushed blacks is a technical term where the detail is lost forever. Not that it makes any difference, the blacks might as well be crushed if you have to turn the brightness right up to see any detail. I dunno, how comes there's so much difference between the US & German Blu's of The Interview, it's a new film, it should all be the same. Maybe the Germans won't put up with the cloggy blacks look.

jscoggins · 06-01-2015, 10:45 PM

Updated OP with notations about German versions of Fury and The Interview.

James Luckard · 06-02-2015, 01:10 AM

VICTORY!!!!!!

I always said that, at best, I hoped for corrected foreign editions of the newest titles, THE INTERVIEW (the one I really cared about) and FURY.

Now we have them! And nobody can continue to claim that the defective US BDs represent the films as the filmmakers intended them to look.

I have a horrible feeling the catalog titles won't get revisited, I'll have to content myself with my old UK BD of MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING, unless I want to view that film as if through sunglasses on the US disc.

Still, I can finally order THE INTERVIEW on BD and get an image that isn't a sea of inky darkness, so I'm happy on this Monday.

jscoggins · 06-02-2015, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

VICTORY!!!!!!

I always said that, at best, I hoped for corrected foreign editions of the newest titles, THE INTERVIEW (the one I really cared about) and FURY.

Now we have them! And nobody can continue to claim that the defective US BDs represent the films as the filmmakers intended them to look.

I have a horrible feeling the catalog titles won't get revisited, I'll have to content myself with my old UK BD of MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING, unless I want to view that film as if through sunglasses on the US disc.

Still, I can finally order THE INTERVIEW on BD and get an image that isn't a sea of inky darkness, so I'm happy on this Monday.

Guys, much of the thanks for this development goes to James Luckard. I won't say more beyond stating that he has done much behind-the-scenes work to get Sony moving in the right direction.

James Luckard · 06-02-2015, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by filmmusic

Seeing these corrected versions of Fury and Interview in Germany, I pray for a corrected version of My Best Friend's Wedding too!

Unfortunately Germany already got MBFW back in 2008, around the time of the old UK BD, so it almost certainly uses the same old master. It's more accurate to the film's intended look than the new black crushed US BD, but sadly lacks the detail and improved color that the new 4k remaster gave the flawed US disc.

I think the US was the last major market to get MBFW, I'm not sure where to look for a potential release of a corrected disc.

Naiera · 06-02-2015, 01:25 AM

Corrected versions from Germany = score!

I wasn't too impressed with the German Fury screens, but if y'all say it's OK, I'm gettin' it soon.

jscoggins · 06-02-2015, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Naiera

Corrected versions from Germany = score!

I wasn't too impressed with the German Fury screens, but if y'all say it's OK, I'm gettin' it soon.

You know what's funny?

Deutschland Blu-ray uber alles!

Naiera · 06-02-2015, 01:40 AM

Not always. Men, Women and Children ("#Zeitgeist" in Germany) had all text on screen (chats, texts, etc.) translated to German. There was an English subtitle track with translations of what should've been in English in the first place

Other releases are 1080i50. That happens here and in the UK as well, of course.

Most releases are nice, though, and they have a lot of stuff never released elsewhere.

But we're moving off-topic now

jscoggins · 06-02-2015, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Naiera

Not always. Men, Women and Children ("#Zeitgeist" in Germany) had all text on screen (chats, texts, etc.) translated to German. There was an English subtitle track with translations of what should've been in English in the first place

Other releases are 1080i50. That happens here and in the UK as well, of course.

Most releases are nice, though, and they have a lot of stuff never released elsewhere.

But we're moving off-topic now

I meant these two movies.

Naiera · 06-02-2015, 01:45 AM

filmmusic · 06-02-2015, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Unfortunately Germany already got MBFW back in 2008, around the time of the old UK BD, so it almost certainly uses the same old master. It's more accurate to the film's intended look than the new black crushed US BD, but sadly lacks the detail and improved color that the new 4k remaster gave the flawed US disc.

Yes, I know that but I thought the new remaster will come again in Europe.
eg. didn't that happen with Robocop and Terminator?

By the way, I repeat again, does anyone know anything about the German My Girl?

Geoff D · 06-02-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

He basically said that people have their TVs calibrated incorrectly.

He said it could be that...

Naiera · 06-02-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by filmmusic

By the way, I repeat again, does anyone know anything about the German My Girl?

PayPal me some money and I'll find out

filmmusic · 06-02-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Naiera

PayPal me some money and I'll find out

well, i was asking in case anyone got it.

Or, isn't there a review of the German Bluray anywhere?
I don't know German to look for it.

jscoggins · 06-02-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by filmmusic

well, i was asking in case anyone got it.

Or, isn't there a review of the German Bluray anywhere?
I don't know German to look for it.

Meine Madchen Blu-ray

filmmusic · 06-02-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Meine Madchen Blu-ray

well, it's not this.

SwissHD · 06-02-2015, 03:50 PM

German Blu Ray of "My Girl" is identical to the US.
Remember: The US Disc had German Audio already.
So its the same Disc Master.

jscoggins · 06-02-2015, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissHD

German Blu Ray of "My Girl" is identical to the US.
Remember: The US Disc had German Audio already.
So its the same Disc Master.

filmmusic · 06-02-2015, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissHD

German Blu Ray of "My Girl" is identical to the US.
Remember: The US Disc had German Audio already.
So its the same Disc Master.

are you sure?
Well, i sent a message to a member here that has the Bluray but he hasn't logged in since 5/31.
I hope he sees it.

06-02-2015, 01:10 AM	#764
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1814 Blu-ray reviews: 34	*VICTORY!!!!!!* I always said that, at best, I hoped for corrected foreign editions of the newest titles, THE INTERVIEW (the one I really cared about) and FURY. Now we have them! And nobody can continue to claim that the defective US BDs represent the films as the filmmakers intended them to look. I have a horrible feeling the catalog titles won't get revisited, I'll have to content myself with my old UK BD of MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING, unless I want to view that film as if through sunglasses on the US disc. Still, I can finally order THE INTERVIEW on BD and get an image that isn't a sea of inky darkness, so I'm happy on this Monday. Last edited by James Luckard; 06-02-2015 at 01:26 AM.

06-01-2015, 10:38 PM	#762
CinemaScope Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2011 Location:London	Maybe a better term is, clogged-up blacks. Crushed blacks is a technical term where the detail is lost forever. Not that it makes any difference, the blacks might as well be crushed if you have to turn the brightness right up to see any detail. I dunno, how comes there's so much difference between the US & German Blu's of The Interview, it's a new film, it should all be the same. Maybe the Germans won't put up with the cloggy blacks look.

06-01-2015, 10:45 PM	#763
jscoggins Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Trading Score:115	Updated OP with notations about German versions of Fury and The Interview.

06-02-2015, 01:25 AM	#767
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25	Corrected versions from Germany = score! I wasn't too impressed with the German Fury screens, but if y'all say it's OK, I'm gettin' it soon.

06-02-2015, 01:40 AM	#769
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25	Not always. Men, Women and Children ("#Zeitgeist" in Germany) had all text on screen (chats, texts, etc.) translated to German. There was an English subtitle track with translations of what should've been in English in the first place Other releases are 1080i50. That happens here and in the UK as well, of course. Most releases are nice, though, and they have a lot of stuff never released elsewhere. But we're moving off-topic now

06-02-2015, 01:45 AM	#771
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:25

06-02-2015, 03:50 PM	#778
SwissHD Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Switzerland Blu-ray reviews:1	German Blu Ray of "My Girl" is identical to the US. Remember: The US Disc had German Audio already. So its the same Disc Master.

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