Sony Black Crush on late-2014 / early-2015 BDs

[Naiera]

Are you referring to the subject of the entire thread or just the part about Drive?

[sjconstable]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

Bought Fury and watched it for the first time last night and in the third act I had to pause the film to bring up the brightness setting.

Black crush means that turning the brightness up won't reveal any more picture information.

[Tuco_76]

Originally Posted by Wernski

It's definitely darker, but at least it's not crushed. All the detail is there, just some of it's harder to make out. Like, you can see what's on that shelf if you up your brightness/gamma,

Yeah, the screens with the completely lost details are exclusively in one single scene, the short nightly drive in the beginning.

Overall the disc looks awesome, I do not think Fury looks that terrible as some say despite of the black crush. Might be finally come down to what anyone prefers to see.

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

This isn't the black crush you are looking for... you can go about your business... move along...

Originally Posted by Geoff D

There's nothing to see here. Move along please.

Right away mate

Originally Posted by Poya

*crickets chirp*

I shall escort myself out.

Had me crackin, make that two

[Tuco_76]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Are you referring to the subject of the entire thread or just the part about Drive?

He's referrring to Drive OC, which I seriously shall not mention anymore

Will help myself to the US disc though, can't stand the DE's murky blacks anymore.

[amoergosum]

Can a moderator edit the thread title?
The valid technical term is "crushed blacks".

[BONKERS]

Originally Posted by Tuco_76

For anyone interested in what I meant, I just found 2 jpg's I made from the first frame in the garage, the shelf / content of the on the left delivers a good comparison.

DE




US

This isn't black crush as much as a lower gamma.

[Tuco_76]

Originally Posted by BONKERS

This isn't black crush as much as a lower gamma.

Yeah we had that, I still agree.

Originally Posted by Wernski

It's definitely darker, but at least it's not crushed. All the detail is there, just some of it's harder to make out. Like, you can see what's on that shelf if you up your brightness/gamma, which you couldn't in the past crushed screenshots from the movies like My Best Friends Wedding. And, yeah, I could see how one would prefer the more contrasty image in motion.

Originally Posted by Tuco_76

Yeah, the screens with the completely gone details are exclusively in one single scene, the short nightly drive in the beginning.

Overall the disc looks awesome, I do not think Fury looks that terrible as some say despite of the black crush. Might be finally come down to what anyone prefers to see.

Again, IMO the Drive US Gamma and black levels look overall way healthier than Drive DE.

For me personally, even if there is lost detail in another sequence, or another movie, I won't bother anymore discussing too much into it.
Seems to go in circles and turn into some kind of Ego-thing, after a certain while, not interested in such geekdom,
I shall leave that to our leading anal-ysts (SCNR)

I'll rather decide which version I prefer, and (get this) enjoy the movie.

Edit: Unsubscribed&peaceout

[Blu-21]

Originally Posted by Tuco_76

For anyone interested in what I meant, I just found 2 jpg's I made from the first frame in the garage, the shelf / content of the on the left delivers a good comparison.

DE




US

Regardless if its black crush or low gamma, that darkened image looks awful in comparsen.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Blu-21

Regardless if its black crush or low gamma, that darkened image looks awful in comparsen.

The darker image is correct. It's supposed to have shadows and hardly looks awful.

[BONKERS]

Originally Posted by Blu-21

Regardless if its black crush or low gamma, that darkened image looks awful in comparsen.

You can blame dark room mastering standards in some places moving to 2.4 Gamma instead of 2.2 for that.


I'd say it hardly looks awful since it isn't outright level conversion error, but I would prefer something a little more between the two

[HeavyHitter]

Has it been confirmed they are using 2.4 (or more likely and correctly bt.1886)?

[KowalskiVideo]

German Sony BD of "The Interview" come without the black crush:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...&y=&lossless=1

[kristoffer]

Also the new Chappie Blu-Ray isn't affected as well.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by KowalskiVideo

German Sony BD of "The Interview" come without the black crush:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...&y=&lossless=1

Yeah, Sony messed up big time.

[filmmusic]

Seeing these corrected versions of Fury and Interview in Germany, I pray for a corrected version of My Best Friend's Wedding too!



edit: Does anyone know how is the German Bluray of My Girl?

[Poya]

Seems they fired that coffee boy who was hired to do the encodes.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by kowalskivideo

german sony bd of "the interview" come without the black crush:
http://www.caps-a-holic.commulti_overview.php

Motherf***ers!

I have to buy it again! Hopefully this filters through to the UK release too.

[jscoggins]

I wonder what Robert Harris has to say about this.

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

I wonder what Robert Harris has to say about this.

Had he reviewed this?
I only remember My Best Friend's wedding, that he gave it a stellar review with 5 stars.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Had he reviewed this?
I only remember My Best Friend's wedding, that he gave it a stellar review with 5 stars.

He basically said that people have their TVs calibrated incorrectly.