Starship Troopers 4K UHD (1997) (20th Anniversary Edition) - Page 41 - Blu-ray Forum

StingingVelvet · 10-16-2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

I keep telling y'all, there's no standalone Blu remaster that's been released and THATS the key here with Sony, they're not going to remaster a BD just as a 'pack in' with a UHD.

Right, but I guess the point is why didn't they do a standard BD release as they did with Close Encounters? Probably some random metrics analysis but who knows.

Gold Ranger · 10-16-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon K

Don't understand why they would include the old Blu-ray instead of making a new Blu-ray from the master used for the 4K

EVERY BD from a 4k HDR scan looks like crap.

Geoff D · 10-16-2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Right, but I guess the point is why didn't they do a standard BD release as they did with Close Encounters? Probably some random metrics analysis but who knows.

That's the point I KEEP MAKING, ya mook.

We've had remastered BD re-releases of Dracula and Fifth Elephant and Leon and CE3K and Ghostbusters and Labyrinth and Ricky Bobby and Bad Boys and the upcoming Jumanji but for some reason Starship Troopers got the shit end of the stick - so people need to look into THAT, it's not because Sony wants to spite everyone who hasn't yet got a 4K player as that's clearly not their bag.

madfloyd · 10-16-2017, 10:34 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=mook...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I learned a new word!

JJ · 10-16-2017, 11:37 PM

So I finally saw this over the weekend, and >wow< was I mindboggled by how fantastic the image looked, for a film I wouldn't have expected to receive this much care.

The finish was amazing. The grain structure beautifully detailed. I enjoyed the movie more than I've ever enjoyed it before solely due to this.

LexInHD · 10-17-2017, 12:37 AM

Sony knows that there are 999,999,999,934 copies of Starship Troopers on Blu-Ray that were not sold. I can literally find it at 7-11 stores and gas stations around here. WalMart, Target, Best Buy, local grocery stores, and even Big Lots have piles of it. That being said, the 4K master of the film was done recently and long after the MI4K line was ended, so no new BD was made from the new master, because it obviously wasn't a good idea to do so.

Geoff D · 10-17-2017, 12:46 AM

Yep, the simplest possible answer for there not being a BD re-release is that it didn't sell well enough first time around. People might then think "well, why remaster in 4K and release it on UHD as that's an even smaller market?!?" but the point may well be that because UHD is already a nerdy niche of a nerdy niche this sort of remastered title would appeal more to us nerdy nerds. They wuz right!!

JimDiGriz · 10-17-2017, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by madfloyd

https://www.google.com/search?q=mook...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I learned a new word!

Watch Mean Streets while you're at it ya mook!

StingingVelvet · 10-17-2017, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's the point I KEEP MAKING, ya mook.

We've had remastered BD re-releases of Dracula and Fifth Elephant and Leon and CE3K and Ghostbusters and Labyrinth and Ricky Bobby and Bad Boys and the upcoming Jumanji but for some reason Starship Troopers got the shit end of the stick - so people need to look into THAT, it's not because Sony wants to spite everyone who hasn't yet got a 4K player as that's clearly not their bag.

Haha this is the craziest instance of talking past one another ever. I'm saying exactly what you're saying! My point was why didn't it ever get a BD remaster is the right question, rather than asking why there wasn't a remastered BD in the 4k package.

Anyway who cares, upgrade you mooks!

madfloyd · 10-17-2017, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Watch Mean Streets while you're at it ya mook!

I remember trying to watch that movie many many years ago and couldn't get through it. Maybe I would have learned sumpin' huh?

ROSS.T.G. · 10-18-2017, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by madfloyd

I remember trying to watch that movie many many years ago and couldn't get through it. Maybe I would have learned sumpin' huh?

It's a masterpiece.

JimDiGriz · 10-19-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by madfloyd

I remember trying to watch that movie many many years ago and couldn't get through it. Maybe I would have learned sumpin' huh?

Watch it again ya mook!

Its very raw. And its not near my favourite Scorsese - but I still love it!

marshauzer · 10-19-2017, 12:25 PM

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Razzel · 10-22-2017, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marshauzer

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Lt_Cobretti · 11-01-2017, 10:10 AM

It seems like every time I watch a Sony UHD I haven't seen it becomes my new favourite disc, obviously this is no exception. Even after all the praise on here I still didn't think this particular film could look this good, it might even top Pacific Rim as an HDR showcase as well.

I'm also, in a completely selfish way, kind of glad there's no remastered 1080p disc, because going from the old blu-ray transfers to this is like going from DVD to blu-ray.

Odradek · 11-01-2017, 04:00 PM

This is Off Topic, BUT as I would love this movie in UHD, I wanted to ask if UHD discs also have region codes? I am from Germany and wanted to buy a Sony UHD Player soon, will I be able to play UHDs released on the US market or are there the same regional restrictions in place as before? I am just sure I read somewhere that you can play all UHD discs released worldwide on a UHD player, can somebody please help me? If there are region codes, are there already region free UHD players out?

Geoff D · 11-01-2017, 04:07 PM

UHD has no regional coding whatsoever.

PeterTHX · 11-01-2017, 04:22 PM

As a format, all 4K UltraHD Blu-rays are Region Free.

The extra included Blu-ray discs may possibly be region coded however.
Sony usually does not.

CSM101 · 11-02-2017, 05:11 AM

On the plus side, the included bluray, although not remastered, doesn't have the editing error. My old one did and I never replaced it.
On a side note, I have a question for you 4K guys. I recently bought a cheap uhd player at Wally World so that I may benefit from Atmos and DTS:X on uhds downscaled to 1080p. I've been tweaking the picture for the uhd player to my tv to get it to look as close to my blurays look, and for the most part have been successful. I've been watching Starship Troopers for like two days now and love the way it looks. I did notice , however, one little scene that looked a bit off. Now, I'm aware that uhds are different from blurays and they have the hdr programmed into them which might alter the image if downscaling to 1080p.
The scene in question is this one...
[IMG_1597.jpg

It looks almost monochromatic or unfinished on the uhd version on my display. The picture quality my iPad took isn't great, the exhausts look a little more blue on my tv rather than teal like my iPad photographed. Could this be something the hdr takes into effect on a 4K display vs 1080p?
Here's the same scene from the bluray
IMG_1594.jpg

I apologize for the poor picture quality, but I think you'll be able to see the color variations in the ships from the bluray version. Bottom line, how does that scene look on a 4K tv with hdr? Any insight from you 4kers would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

Lt_Cobretti · 11-02-2017, 05:24 AM

Looks like a conversion anomaly, here's the same thing on my TV (Also taken on an iPad for complete scientific accuracy)

10-19-2017, 12:25 PM	#813
marshauzer New Member Member since:Nov 2010	US Digital Download code will be given away to one lucky winner! 3D4U SFF1 7WKX GVE0 Last edited by marshauzer; 10-22-2017 at 10:00 AM.

10-16-2017, 10:34 PM	#804
madfloyd Senior Member Member since:May 2017 Location:Massachusetts Trading Score:2	https://www.google.com/search?q=mook...hrome&ie=UTF-8 I learned a new word!

10-16-2017, 11:37 PM	#805
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:624 Blu-ray collection:1298 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	So I finally saw this over the weekend, and >wow< was I mindboggled by how fantastic the image looked, for a film I wouldn't have expected to receive this much care. The finish was amazing. The grain structure beautifully detailed. I enjoyed the movie more than I've ever enjoyed it before solely due to this.

10-17-2017, 12:37 AM	#806
LexInHD Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:226	Sony knows that there are 999,999,999,934 copies of Starship Troopers on Blu-Ray that were not sold. I can literally find it at 7-11 stores and gas stations around here. WalMart, Target, Best Buy, local grocery stores, and even Big Lots have piles of it. That being said, the 4K master of the film was done recently and long after the MI4K line was ended, so no new BD was made from the new master, because it obviously wasn't a good idea to do so.

10-17-2017, 12:46 AM	#807
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yep, the simplest possible answer for there not being a BD re-release is that it didn't sell well enough first time around. People might then think "well, why remaster in 4K and release it on UHD as that's an even smaller market?!?" but the point may well be that because UHD is already a nerdy niche of a nerdy niche this sort of remastered title would appeal more to us nerdy nerds. They wuz right!!

11-01-2017, 10:10 AM	#815
Lt_Cobretti Expert Member Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Newy 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:178	It seems like every time I watch a Sony UHD I haven't seen it becomes my new favourite disc, obviously this is no exception. Even after all the praise on here I still didn't think this particular film could look this good, it might even top Pacific Rim as an HDR showcase as well. I'm also, in a completely selfish way, kind of glad there's no remastered 1080p disc, because going from the old blu-ray transfers to this is like going from DVD to blu-ray.

11-01-2017, 04:00 PM	#816
Odradek Active Member Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Germany Blu-ray collection:8	This is Off Topic, BUT as I would love this movie in UHD, I wanted to ask if UHD discs also have region codes? I am from Germany and wanted to buy a Sony UHD Player soon, will I be able to play UHDs released on the US market or are there the same regional restrictions in place as before? I am just sure I read somewhere that you can play all UHD discs released worldwide on a UHD player, can somebody please help me? If there are region codes, are there already region free UHD players out?

11-01-2017, 04:07 PM	#817
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	UHD has no regional coding whatsoever.

11-01-2017, 04:22 PM	#818
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	As a format, all 4K UltraHD Blu-rays are Region Free. The extra included Blu-ray discs may possibly be region coded however. Sony usually does not.

11-02-2017, 05:11 AM	#819
CSM101 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2012 4K collection:1702 Blu-ray collection:5456 DVD collection:507 Digital collection:8 iTunes collection:20 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:6	On the plus side, the included bluray, although not remastered, doesn't have the editing error. My old one did and I never replaced it. On a side note, I have a question for you 4K guys. I recently bought a cheap uhd player at Wally World so that I may benefit from Atmos and DTS:X on uhds downscaled to 1080p. I've been tweaking the picture for the uhd player to my tv to get it to look as close to my blurays look, and for the most part have been successful. I've been watching Starship Troopers for like two days now and love the way it looks. I did notice , however, one little scene that looked a bit off. Now, I'm aware that uhds are different from blurays and they have the hdr programmed into them which might alter the image if downscaling to 1080p. The scene in question is this one... [IMG_1597.jpg It looks almost monochromatic or unfinished on the uhd version on my display. The picture quality my iPad took isn't great, the exhausts look a little more blue on my tv rather than teal like my iPad photographed. Could this be something the hdr takes into effect on a 4K display vs 1080p? Here's the same scene from the bluray IMG_1594.jpg I apologize for the poor picture quality, but I think you'll be able to see the color variations in the ships from the bluray version. Bottom line, how does that scene look on a 4K tv with hdr? Any insight from you 4kers would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

11-02-2017, 05:24 AM	#820
Lt_Cobretti Expert Member Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Newy 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:178	Looks like a conversion anomaly, here's the same thing on my TV (Also taken on an iPad for complete scientific accuracy)

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