HDR Discussion Thread

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

https://www.redsharknews.com/product...-process-works

This interview gave legitimacy to what I always believed about HDR or DV calibration. Specifically, leaving contrast on your display at stock setting, even if it clips white above 1000 nits.

[Ambler1980]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

It's not length of time, it's if it's the same static image over and over again. Cumulative rather than length of time. So mix up your content.

Looks like I got a set with the infamous dirty screen effect!

It is only visible in red/yellow and various shades of those. 95% of the time watching HDR movies I can't see it. But occasionally, in say, Star Trek Beyond when there is a red or yellow uniform and the shot is panning I will notice it. Or the opening of Die Hard with it's dusky opening shots, or alot of Mad Max Fury Road with it's reddish desert landscape. On non HDR content it is way more obvious. For instance in Star Trek TNG on Netflix the solid red and yellow uniforms are horribly distracting (and pretty much unwatchable) because the DSE is visible through them.

There is also some very slight vertical banding but it is very minor compared to examples I've seen online. The DSE is worse. I have my old Vizio FALD still here going to be repaired Tuesday so I may sell it and return the Sony and spring for an LG B8. I got the Sony open box at Best Buy, so it was cheaper than the LG even though it's a better model. So that's a tough call because the Sony is supposed to be a bit better than the LG B8.

I could potentially keep the Sony and just ignore the problem when it pops up 10% of the time on HDR movies (which is 90% of my viewing) but it's a tough call. Apparently panel lottery is a real thing and who knows if I end up with a worse set.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Ambler1980

Looks like I got a set with the infamous dirty screen effect!

It is only visible in red/yellow and various shades of those. 95% of the time watching HDR movies I can't see it.

This is the exact same problem I have. I'm a little annoyed but I told my wife the issue but she kept using the Youtube app and the static YouTube logo (bright red) is burnt in. But, as you say, it's not visible 95% of the time.
I had the chance of getting the panel replaced but opted not to because the 3D is reference quality and the replacement panel was 2D.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well I had pick up something commemorative at CineGear to wear at times because my other current special cap – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post16033627 needs to stay in decent photographic quality at least until June 2020 as it’s already been going thru rigorous celebrations - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post16222529

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

...new hat.

P.S.
Yeah, I know, those with 2 videophile eyes will notice the dust on the armrest. Hey, maids week off

[Ambler1980]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

This is the exact same problem I have. I'm a little annoyed but I told my wife the issue but she kept using the Youtube app and the static YouTube logo (bright red) is burnt in. But, as you say, it's not visible 95% of the time.
I had the chance of getting the panel replaced but opted not to because the 3D is reference quality and the replacement panel was 2D.

Yeah. 4K TV's in general seem prone to this stuff. I had to return my first Vizio 4K because of a dead dimming zone. And the replacement started malfunction recently.

And now this. Reading up online it seems almost every set has some kind of issue (some just more visible than others). It's a real bummer because the technology is amazing. OLED is breathtaking.

I will cycle through Fury Road and The Martian when I get home.to see how much I can tolerate as both those movies have alot of desert scenes.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sony should have an invite event to their Digital Media Production center.....

And they did –

Cine Gear Expo 2019: Sony Announces Firmware Update And New Production Center At Special Event - YouTube

Anyone know who the guy is with the floppy hat in the picture shown in the background?

[Geoff D]

Is that your man Claudio?

[Penton-Man]

Something(s) for Stacey to spend his money on…..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...1#post16494501

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Is that your man Claudio?

Correctomundo
On the desert set of The Dig along with the Director Joseph K.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

That's a nice cool hat Penton.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Too much on topic stuff Penton, back to top gun

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

chronicling the lesser known (but also deserving ) cast and crew too including - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15693856

and
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15625628

and, eventually -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post15697488

for otherwise, I fear you guys might never have heard/known about them.

adding to ^ , more on chronicling the contributions by lesser known crew, this time, for in da air -
https://www.instagram.com/k2_larosa/

[Penton-Man]

^ for one will recall - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15875862

[Penton-Man]

For serious gamer dudes, and with no marketing hype as it does what it claims for a reasonable price, coming in July….https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...21d01cc8430b08

[Penton-Man]

on thee other hand, personally, I would be careful to imply that the Apple "Pro" Display XDR is equal in picture quality to a Sony BVM X300 reference monitor or the features of the 3,000 nit Flanders master monitor –

WWDC 2019 Pro Stand Crowd Reaction - YouTube

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Correctomundo
On the desert set of The Dig along with the Director Joseph K.

Seems like Claudio's had a Venice surgically implanted.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And they did –

Hey PM, do you know if paidgeek is still with Sony? If so, what is his position?

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Ambler1980

Yeah. 4K TV's in general seem prone to this stuff. I had to return my first Vizio 4K because of a dead dimming zone. And the replacement started malfunction recently.

And now this. Reading up online it seems almost every set has some kind of issue (some just more visible than others). It's a real bummer because the technology is amazing. OLED is breathtaking.

I will cycle through Fury Road and The Martian when I get home.to see how much I can tolerate as both those movies have alot of desert scenes.

I predict MicroLED will take over from OLED in less than 5 years because you get all of the benefits (infinite contrast) and none of the drawbacks (screen burn-in.

Imagine a panel that can reach thousands of nits but you can turn off specific pixels (infinite contrast) and be able to watch anything you want for any length of time. That will be the dominant TV technology, no question.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

That's a nice cool hat Penton.

I think this guy could use one:

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Hey PM, do you know if paidgeek is still with Sony? If so, what is his position?

yes, now Chief Technology Officer

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Seems like Claudio's had a Venice surgically implanted.

he's been involved early on in the development of the Venice, which one of the reasons chosen was for its special shutter which helped keep things looking as non-distorted as possible while capturing Mav in the scenes aerially at speed, after he received his training - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post16499412