HDR Discussion Thread

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

While going over Samsung's pdf file on HDR10+. I noticed, that it never mentioned any mastering nits over 1000 nits. Makes me wonder if there will be some visible artifacts, when 4000 nit grades are played back.

That's a bit of a leap, isn't it? Seeing as the IMAX Beautiful Planet disc has a MaxCLL of 2200+ nits but MaxMDL of 1000 nits then it doesn't appear to be a problem.

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's a bit of a leap, isn't it? Seeing as the IMAX Beautiful Planet disc has a MaxCLL of 2200+ nits but MaxMDL of 1000 nits then it doesn't appear to be a problem.

Would I be correct, in assuming the master monitor was actually a Samsung display. I guess it's a leap. I don't know, I just thought it was odd. I wasn't implying that content couldn't be mastered at 4000 nits.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Fox

I think Tom and Chris’s PSA - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post15834967
was good to increase the awareness of laypersons.

Along those lines of TV adjustment/tweaking, but with regards to a public service announcement geared toward some of our millennial readers who are burdened this holiday season with *curious-aged parents*, google – ‘Youtube Outfox The Holidays’ for an ~ 1min 40s tutorial how-to on another type of TV adjustment.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Tomorrow morning is D day for me. If I don't make it out, carry the HDR torch for me.

https://developer.dolby.com/tools-me...ision-streams/

Hang in there bud, it’s not as bad as you may think….unless….you have a severe allergy to the aesthetic(s) leading to respiratory distress and, well. Let us know if you’re still alive and kicking afterwards.

Also, if you have a camera capable of HDR, a pic or two of the healing skin incisions made for the portals would be cool….unless….you develop some rare flesh eating bacterial infection.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Maybe even watch something in DV and pour a 40 on an old BD. Oh, and a Coronado growler is always the right choice.

I can’t do that while working my way thru this -
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/high-...se-daniel-han/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Oil me up, PM. I'm ready.

You awake yet?
If not, note to family member monitoring Wabo’s phone while in recovery, shake the dude (better yet, whisper in his ear that you inadvertently threw out his entire Ultra HD Blu-ray collection in the trash by mistake) and let him know we’re waiting on the outcome of his surgery!

Meanwhile I’m going riding with da boys to keep my mind off today’s stock market.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

There are many advantages of using credit cards.
- Cash back - Costco gives you 2% back 3% on meals and travel and 4% on gas plus up to 2 years extended warranty and no foreign transaction fees.

Some other cards have similar benefits.

In all the years I have had credit cards my credit card number got compromised twice and in each instance I was not held responsible.

I get 1.5% on all purchases (no limits or stipulations of use) each month with Capital One. Nice perk that adds up over time and I pay it off every month.

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I get 1.5% on all purchases (no limits or stipulations of use) each month with Capital One. Nice perk that adds up over time and I pay it off every month.

The Citi double cash card gives you 2 percent back with up to a two year extended warranty with no restrictions.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

So far nobody has indicated otherwise.

No one's indicated either way, they're keeping remarkably mum on the subject. So again you're making an assumption. I'm saying, from historical evidence with Miramax, Marvel, Lucasfilm, etc. there is every chance they keep the Fox branding and give them a sizeable amount of independence.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

No one's indicated either way, they're keeping remarkably mum on the subject. So again you're making an assumption. I'm saying, from historical evidence with Miramax, Marvel, Lucasfilm, etc. there is every chance they keep the Fox branding and give them a sizeable amount of independence.

All the studios you listed still mastered their home video releases to "Disney spec".

[LordoftheRings]

We are @ the 2019's precipice; what could be beneficial for HDR coming up?

...Non-organic emissive technology...MicroLED.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

The Citi double cash card gives you 2 percent back with up to a two year extended warranty with no restrictions.

I'll have to take a look at that - these things pop up so often.

[Penton-Man]

^ Y'all are temptresses.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

riding with da boys

Well, I think I spoke too soon as a couple of the gals on the ride smoked me. Anyway, I’m back….



Showered, jersey has been washed and is already air drying ^ for the next ride.
Still no Waboman?

[Penton-Man]

P.S. ^
If they’ve kept you overnight, here’s some reading material as the TV in the room probably sucks….
https://www.grassvalley.com/docs/Whi...Live_Guide.pdf (b.t.w., Grass Valley camera used to shoot this - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post15359404

[DisplayCalNoob]

How much has Dovi changed since this article http://www.ravepubs.com/dolby-vision/ was published?

[DanBa]

Samsung device with Dolby Vision capabilities

"Justin Denison, Samsung’s SVP of product marketing and strategy, confirmed that the company’s 5G phone will be powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855. Denison said that this smartphone will be available in the United States in the first half of 2019."
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/12/05...snapdragon-855

The new Snapdragon 855 SoC will support all existing operational HDR formats (i.e. HDR10, H.265 HLG HDR, VP9-HLG YouTube HDR, VP9-PQ [aka VP9-HDR10] YouTube HDR, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision).




Samsung used to release two SoC variants for its flagship phones, one being the Qualcomm Snapdragon for the United States, Japan, China, Latin America markets and the other its homegrown Exynos for the rest of the world including South Korea and Europe.

New Snapdragon 855: video playback of all currently operational HDR formats
New Exynos 9820: apparently only HDR10, like its predecessor the Exynos 9810 of the Galaxy S9 phone
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/12/06...napdragon-855/



Samsung will likely reduce the video playback feature of this upcoming flagship phone (Galaxy S10?) to the lowest common denominator: no Dolby Vision.

And this restriction would certainly be jailbroken by some XDA developer.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jail...hrome&ie=UTF-8


Anyway, the new Snapdragon 855 will come to other flagship phones in 2019 so that people can enjoy watching any HDR movie, in whichever format director chooses to use, on the go, or at home using the phone as streaming player.
https://www.bgr.in/news/sony-xperia-...-s10-mwc-2019/
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post57310992

HDR movie stored on the cloud >> Internet >> phone > phone display

HDR movie stored on the cloud >> Internet >> phone as streaming player >> USB-C to HDMI adapter >> HDR TV

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

This is the Top Gun thread; Maverick, fighter jets, motorcycles, Tom Cruise looking half his age, HDR screens and screams and prayers, ...and robots.

.....and credit card's cash back features (of which I'm now tempted to acquire a Citi card) and SoC’s and phones
But as to jets, remember this promotion by Pepsi?….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdackF2H7Qc#t=1s

Turns out instead of collecting 7,000,000 Pepsi Points through the purchase of Pepsi products, some guy sent a certified check to Pepsi for $700,000 and change as permitted by the contest rules. He had 15 existing points, paid $0.10 a point for the remaining 6,999,985 points, and a $10 shipping and handling fee. So, he demanded that Pepsi give him the Harrier jump jet as per their posted contest rules. Even sued Pepsi Co. in District court for breach of contract and fraud in order to make them honor their contest after they essentially blew him off.

He lost the case in both District and U.S. Court of Appeals and never got his jet. I like some of the comments in the YouTube clip.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

All the studios you listed still mastered their home video releases to "Disney spec".

I was responding to the comment "Fox as a studio won't exist in a year" so I have zero idea how this is a relevant retort.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

How much has Dovi changed since this article http://www.ravepubs.com/dolby-vision/ was published?

HDR generically, best attend this - http://www.imaging.org/site/AsiCommo...ion/Login.aspx
(13 - 17 January, 2019 • Burlingame, California USA
Human Vision and Electronic Imaging 2019)

SC15: High-Dynamic-Range Theory and Technology
Sunday 13 January • 3:45 – 5:45 pm
Course Length: 2 hours
Learning Outcomes
• Explore the history of HDR imaging.
• Understand dynamic range and quantization: the ‘salame’ metaphor.
• Compare single and multiple-exposures for scene capture.
• Measure optical limits in acquisition and display: scene dependent effects of glare.
• RAW scene capture in LDR and HDR scenes.
• Human vision and a program to calculate the retinal image altered by glare.
• Discuss current HDR TV systems and standards: tone-rendering vs. spatial HDR methods.

DoVi specific - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...4#post15564633
In particular ^ , secondary trim controls with the internal CMU and Resolve 15