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Old 09-18-2020, 05:23 PM   #4201
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My local HMV doesn't seem to have ever gotten a new TROS, just 2 copies of the April release. Looks like they just got one copy of Rogue One.

Have placed an order with HMV, let's see what happens...
HMV Order turned up today, both Rogue One and TROS have slips, and TROS is the new release. Never been happier about some pieces of cardboard
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:04 PM   #4202
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Anyone know why Revenge of the Sith doesn't have an Irish Film Classification when every single other Star Wars release does?

Really stands out when you have them all lined up together on a shelf.
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Old 09-20-2020, 03:40 PM   #4203
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Anyone know why Revenge of the Sith doesn't have an Irish Film Classification when every single other Star Wars release does?

Really stands out when you have them all lined up together on a shelf.
It was rated PG. Maybe they're not allowed to put a lower certificate than the UK rating on the cover.
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:54 PM   #4204
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If the Irish cert is not the same as the UK cert then they have their own cover without the UK cert.
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Old 09-20-2020, 06:04 PM   #4205
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I only realised that the separate releases were out this week. I managed to order the first 6 films in 2D ok with slips from Amazon. I had to order them 2 at a time though as the offer would only work once. They all came together in one package.

I have the original Rey trilogy releases and Rogue One, Solo. I am trying to convince myself I don't need the others in same slip. They don't look too bad together.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:11 PM   #4206
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It's sad that fans with a 35mm print and a couple of thousand $$$ can do a better job than the people who have access to the ON and the combined wealth of Disney and Lucasfilm.
At least the 2011 versions can get the colour grading better. A couple of the fans have also done a better job in this area than Disney have done.
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:37 PM   #4207
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Can someone please confirm whether the non-4K individual releases are the 2011 or 2020 masters? There's a post on here saying that Episode IV is definitely the 2020 master, yet on the Original Trilogy forum they say they're the 2011 master. There must be a definitive answer to this...
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:48 PM   #4208
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Can someone please confirm whether the non-4K individual releases are the 2011 or 2020 masters? There's a post on here saying that Episode IV is definitely the 2020 master, yet on the Original Trilogy forum they say they're the 2011 master. There must be a definitive answer to this...
From what understand the prequels using the same 2011 but there is still some very small differences.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...6&l=0&i=9&go=1

The original trilogy has the most difference

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...1&l=0&i=0&go=1
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:53 PM   #4209
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It was rated PG. Maybe they're not allowed to put a lower certificate than the UK rating on the cover.
Yes, someone said in another thread that if the two ratings are different then they can't put them both on there (which does make sense).
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:57 PM   #4210
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From what understand the prequels using the same 2011 but there is still some very small differences.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...6&l=0&i=9&go=1

The original trilogy has the most difference

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...1&l=0&i=0&go=1
Thanks, if these caps are accurate then the BDs are definitely not the 2011 master. That is assuming the caps are in fact from the standalone BDs and not the one bundled with the 4K.
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:07 PM   #4211
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Thanks, if these caps are accurate then the BDs are definitely not the 2011 master. That is assuming the caps are in fact from the standalone BDs and not the one bundled with the 4K.
I looked at these, there isn't any difference with AOTC or ROTS. It seems to be only Phantom Menace with a little difference.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...1&l=0&i=2&go=1

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...4&l=0&i=9&go=1
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:27 PM   #4212
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Can someone please confirm whether the non-4K individual releases are the 2011 or 2020 masters? There's a post on here saying that Episode IV is definitely the 2020 master, yet on the Original Trilogy forum they say they're the 2011 master. There must be a definitive answer to this...
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Thanks, if these caps are accurate then the BDs are definitely not the 2011 master. That is assuming the caps are in fact from the standalone BDs and not the one bundled with the 4K.
The images from caps-a-holic are from the new Blu-ray releases.

The Original and Prequel separate releases (black covers) are newer masters, if they're the new Lucasfilm Ltd. releases. The prequel discs aren't hugely noticeable apart from The Phantom Menace, unless you spot that the new ones are 2.39:1 compared to the 2.35:1 of the 2011 discs (so you lose height information with the new discs). The differences are quite apparent with the original trilogy movies.

Even though the 2020 discs are new, I think the masters themselves predate the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney (at least in the case of the Original Trilogy).
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:34 PM   #4213
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The images from caps-a-holic are from the new Blu-ray releases.

The Original and Prequel separate releases (black covers) are newer masters, if they're the new Lucasfilm Ltd. releases. The prequel discs aren't hugely noticeable apart from The Phantom Menace, unless you spot that the new ones are 2.39:1 compared to the 2.35:1 of the 2011 discs (so you lose height information with the new discs). The differences are quite apparent with the original trilogy movies.

Even though the 2020 discs are new, I think the masters themselves predate the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney (at least in the case of the Original Trilogy).
That's great, thanks. So looks like if you're not in the market for 4K only IV-VI are probably worth getting.

Though having said that, I currently have Disney+ and as far I can tell I'm streaming in HD through my NowTV box and these are more-or-less the same masters as the BDs aren't they?
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:05 PM   #4214
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That's great, thanks. So looks like if you're not in the market for 4K only IV-VI are probably worth getting.

Though having said that, I currently have Disney+ and as far I can tell I'm streaming in HD through my NowTV box and these are more-or-less the same masters as the BDs aren't they?
The Disney+ versions are the same as the 2020 DVD/Blu-ray/4K releases.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:09 PM   #4215
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That's great, thanks. So looks like if you're not in the market for 4K only IV-VI are probably worth getting.

Though having said that, I currently have Disney+ and as far I can tell I'm streaming in HD through my NowTV box and these are more-or-less the same masters as the BDs aren't they?
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The Disney+ versions are the same as the 2020 DVD/Blu-ray/4K releases.
Like Roonan posted, they're the same as the new releases.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:16 PM   #4216
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The Disney+ versions are the same as the 2020 DVD/Blu-ray/4K releases.
Thanks.

I am more of a physical media rather than digital media person and I'd like to actually own the best versions available rather than rely on it being available digitally, but the reality is that if I want to watch a Star Wars right now I'll just stream it through D+ rather than get a BD out. I know the new releases have a few new featurettes for I-VI but not convinced they are worth the outlay.

Would people agree that as long as I have D+ there really isn't any point buying the new standalone blu rays?
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:21 PM   #4217
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So looks like if you're not in the market for 4K only IV-VI are probably worth getting.
The Phantom Menace is definitely a nice little improvement over the old Blu-Ray. Most of the sharpening has been reduced or is pretty much gone now, and the image is a bit brighter (which I think is an improvement) with better colour now.


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Would people agree that as long as I have D+ there really isn't any point buying the new standalone blu rays?
I don’t know what the streaming quality is like on Disney +, but theoretically, the Blu-rays should look and sound better (certainly in terms of compression), but the Disney + versions might be good enough for you.

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Old 09-22-2020, 02:08 AM   #4218
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So if all the original movies (I-VI) were filmed in 2.35:1, why did Disney make them 2.39?
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Old 09-22-2020, 06:05 AM   #4219
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So if all the original movies (I-VI) were filmed in 2.35:1, why did Disney make them 2.39?
Because they weren't.

2.39:1 is often 'rounded down' to 2.35:1. Particularly for domestic consumption.

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Old 09-22-2020, 10:32 AM   #4220
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I really only bought the prequels even though I have the 2011 set because of the 2 for £15. I suppose I could have just bought Phantom Menace but it would look odd without the other two. If it was 3 for 2, I think I would have bought just the original trilogy.

I don't do streaming or 4K so these discs will do for me.
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