HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=322129
^ -> Speaking of brightness, especially important now that interest in high dynamic range imagery has taken center stage with many film/video bloggers, tweeters and such, unbeknownst to all but a knowledgeable few at this time, is that a standard for measuring image brightness of HDR in production is progressing nicely thru the ITU as ITU-R BT.[MIL].

more - https://www.itu.int/CookieAuth.dll?G...on=0&formdir=7

For those who don’t qualify for professional access ^, all I can share is that the draft specifies a mean image level (MIL) measurement algorithm for objectively monitoring and managing the perceptual brightness of HDR-TV programs.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Too much on topic stuff Penton, back to top gun

I will
later, as a picture is worth a thousand words

for now, it’s Hi Hoh, Hi Hoh, it’s off to work I go. Keep 'em honest LordoftheRings.

[Lee A Stewart]

Not Even Two Will Smiths Could Save ‘Gemini Man’ From a $75 Million Loss

https://collider.com/gemini-man-75-m...x-office-bomb/

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Not Even Two Will Smiths Could Save ‘Gemini Man’ From a $75 Million Loss

https://collider.com/gemini-man-75-m...x-office-bomb/

HFR be gone!

[LordoftheRings]

Yes it's surprising that Gemini Man is not attracting more the cinémathèques (technical film experts).
Marvel and DC comic flicks is a better recipe with CGI effects and sound effects.

Who wants HFR and 3D when you can make billions with comic book superheroes and villains.
If Ang Lee was going to make the next Batman's sequel with HFR and 3D IMAX cameras, then it might attract the film aficionados of the Hollywood moviegoer's crowd and universal audiences across the planet Earth...including Chinese 3D fans.

Give a role to Jared Leto ... pull him out of Suicide Squat.
Hire Daniel Craig as Batman, or Chuck Norris.
_____

* Things are slowing down ... only 200,000+ views so far in October.
It must be the Autumn season with falling leaves ...

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Too much on topic stuff Penton, back to top gun

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16961206
^ this being good while on the carrier –>

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

* Things are slowing down ...

not for some of us looking left - https://2019.smpte.org/

[LordoftheRings]

That's a cool web design ... and dead on topic.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Yes it's surprising that Gemini Man is not attracting more the cinémathèques (technical film experts).
Marvel and DC comic flicks is a better recipe with CGI effects and sound effects.

Who wants HFR and 3D when

I for one don't. Ever. Doesn't matter what the film is.

[LordoftheRings]

You don't want HFR and 3D; you are not alone...you are part of the majority.
And that majority is the one voting with their credit cards and cash.
Art is not an easy task to master; it takes more than 4K/8K HDR and Dolby Vision/Atmos.

IMO

[puddy77]

Looks like we will be spared HFR on the future Avatars: https://collider.com/avatar-sequels-...james-cameron/

[DJR662]

Good.

[LordoftheRings]

But 3D is not going anywhere ... Avatar sequels are impregnated with the latest 3D art.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Looks like we will be spared HFR on the future Avatars: https://collider.com/avatar-sequels-...james-cameron/

Yes and no, he WILL be using it but only on the action scenes to counteract the problems he perceives with strobing in 24fps 3D. Some folks have known about this for a while: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...5#post10154565

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Yes it's surprising that Gemini Man is not attracting more the cinémathèques (technical film experts).

Well, the movie does have some merit, as I’ve heard that the Brit Geoff ((not Geoff D, but Geoff B. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic6Zk92PgcY#t=1s apparently loved the HDR element of Gemini Man.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes and no, he WILL be using it but only on the action scenes to counteract the problems he perceives with strobing in 24fps 3D. Some folks have known about this for a while: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...5#post10154565

Yeah, it does seem like he’s hedging his bets. But I swear I read somewhere (possibly in this thread, possibly from Penton) that variable frame rate theatrical presentation was a no go. I couldn’t find it, so I could be imagining it, but I did find this SMPTE video going over the possibility:

https://youtu.be/lwCjYDfzZsc

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

I for one don't. Ever. Doesn't matter what the film is.

Personally, I would drive out of my way to see a mostly underwater documentary in HFR……maybe even a narrative film with lots of underwater action like The Abyss. However, I may be a bit biased as having been incentivized to travel all the way to French Polynesia - Rangiroa, Fakarava - back in the day to film sharks (framed photo 2nd row far left, straight down from the air vent) –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

This is a pic of one side wall in one of our TV rooms that I have motorcycle remembrances (framed photos, medals, my finisher pins, etc.), scuba pics from around the world and you’ll note prominently in the lower level around the wall mounted side speaker, 3 poster-sized pics of ‘the lady’ in her heyday.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Too much on topic stuff Penton, back to top gun

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15654465
^ -> side wall of the ready room of the VX-31 squadron –

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

8K, ...

https://2019.smpte.org/
I’m looking forward to hearing the results of this SMPTE exhibit at booth 615 - https://2019.smpte.org/home/2019_exhibitors

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Yeah, it does seem like he’s hedging his bets. But I swear I read somewhere (possibly in this thread, possibly from Penton) that variable frame rate theatrical presentation was a no go. I couldn’t find it, so I could be imagining it, but I did find this SMPTE video going over the possibility:

https://youtu.be/lwCjYDfzZsc

I'm not sure why the actual presentation itself has to physically vary in frame rate though? They can create a version with 24fps (or near enough) scenes with duplicated frames to fit the HFR frame rate 'container', and when the action ramps up then the actual HFR content kicks in.

Speaking of which, I recall it being floated in one article or another that they were doing this on Gemini Man, that it wasn't actually 120fps all the way through? Yep: https://www.screendaily.com/features...140383.article