HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Reminds me of my 2014 TV Shootout when Joe Kane was speaking about how our eye sees and tracks motion on the TV screen and in real life and after Joe completed his technical explanation, Dr. Larry Weber (Father of PDP) raised his hand and disputed Joe Kane's explanation and presented his take on how we see video motion.

Check out this Youtube video starting at 15:00 through 17:56. Very interesting and funny.

https://youtu.be/PNLY4mKcrQ4

^ reminds me as to something I mentioned back in July, a year ago regarding your 2017 TV shootout (and I hope you livestream or record and show later this years for those unable to attend)….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post13875226

An update from other investigators as to continued research in the area of metameric failure - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/action/cookieAbsent
if that ^ link doesn't go thru, read the May issue of the SID journal or try googling 'Correcting Metameric Failure of Wide Color Gamut Displays'

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15377796

^ -> Now recently back from presenting in Vancouver, seems Charles is into skin tones too…. https://twitter.com/momaku/status/1028004266651176961

[Penton-Man]

P.S. I see in some back-and-forth mentioned in the tweet above that ^ , for those really into their inky black and unaware of what Vantablack is, here’s a primer –

VANTABLACK - The Darkest Material on Earth - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Later folks, as we’ve already ridden and returned home to beat the heat and this weekend after my prerequisite daily exercise I now go from watching matches like this - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post15380614

To the real deal, as a new Prem season begins

Carry on.

[Robert Zohn]

Yes our 2018 TV Shootout will be live casted and archived on our https://www.youtube.com/user/HDTVShootout/videos page.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Aduba1982 stated

Are 2.1 hdmi cables available to buy yet?

EchoGear makes Excellent 8 feet 48 hz HDMI Cable.
Reasonable price.

It greatly improved picture quality onto my LG G6 OLED.
Upon specular bright highlights and quality of colors. I connect LG UP970 and Oppo 203 players to my G6 OLED. The UP970 connects directly to the G6 OLED. The OPPO 203 connects to AVR which then connects to my G6 OLED. In another TV Room I have 8 feet Echogear 48 Hz HDMI cable connected to E6 OLED from another UP970 player.

I now have brought 6 of these 8 feet Echogear HDMI 48 Hz cables.

They replaced the Certified Premium HDMI cable I had in my OPPO 203 box, my Fusion 4K high speed cables(very $ expensive), Atevon(an Amazon Choice) 18 hz hdmi cable.

It's easy to audition these EchoGear HDMI Cable. There are many excellent Amazon reviews stateing increased PQ. Individual home TV setup(OLED picture mode element settings "Let it Breave", etc.) and AV Equipment may vary in results.

I did not audition the EchoGears 4 feet 48 Hz HDMI cable.

My impression is like Los Angeles Freeway Traffic at heavy times.
Tho the Freeway can specify 70 MPH(I viewing as the HDMI 2.0 port regulator) on a 2 lane or 5 lane...
you going to move more cars in the 5 lane. So to me on HDMI 2.0 Ports the EchoGear 48gz cables allows more PQ elements to move move freely. Or the right affecting PQ Elements to reach the HDMI 2.0 port on the OLED very timely or quicker.

I'm really, really happy with the HDR results.

(My reference to Quality of Colors above can include more details in Human Faces, or Richness in tones)

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In a nutshell, read the first sentence of my signature and I continue to stand on the principle that if one is honest and tells the truth, one has the right to remain anonymous. In fact, probably works out better for you guys because I’m beholden to nobody and since the days of Club Penton now actually have more freedom to make posts like this –

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post15367516
or this – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post15386317

rather than towing the party line of whatever the group, company or individual may be. You have to understand that in this industry a lot of endorsements by individuals to this or that product or concept are not based upon merit, but rather mutual interest relationships (you rub my back and I’ll rub yours).

That is interesting Penton.
I'm a professional, and I work and answer to nobody but myself.
I love people with knowledge on HDR, and I learn from them; I expand my knowledge from people like you. Keep being you, it's the best of all you.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

That is interesting Penton.
I'm a professional, and I work and answer to nobody but myself.
I love people with knowledge on HDR, and I learn from them; I expand my knowledge from people like you. Keep being you, it's the best of all you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHoD_lAoFsg#t=2m9s
I notice another calibrator has since chimed in….



My advice to the people in charge of promoting these excellent TVs would have been not to taint the real engineering improvements of the Sony Bravia Master series with marketing nonsense because it’s a little insulting to the intelligence of well-informed videophiles and it belittles the actual fine work implemented by the engineers regarding authentic features like the X-Wide Angle, the X1 Ultimate processor, etc. or the fine work Netflix does independent to this 'collaboration'.

Once I can get around to selling one of my current displays at a decent price eventually I’ll probably end up purchasing the Z9F despite the Netflix calibrated mode hype….or some might even say, deception. Heck, just to justify to my wife me getting yet another TV, I’d probably give away thee old TV we have down in one of the rooms in San Diego to my nephew who’s starting a new school this month if there weren’t a logistic problem with that and I didn’t think it might interfere with his or his housemates’ studies.

P.S.
Bob, I guess the 2nd paragraph of this ^ post rules out forever me again being offered previous perks like being wined and dined at fine local restaurants by V.P.s or complimentary passes to exclusive screenings at AMPAS’s Samuel Goldwyn Theater, free Blu-rays, etc.
But I think I’m doing well regardless.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes our 2018 TV Shootout will be live casted and archived on our https://www.youtube.com/user/HDTVShootout/videos page.

Good to hear you’re making it happen. Robert, I know you’re a bit hamstrung as to what you can and can not say regarding any of these consumer devices or those who promote them from this or that company, nevertheless, that said, you're likely the most honest and well informed retailer out there.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

EchoGear makes Excellent 8 feet 48 hz HDMI Cable....

As mentioned above, I’m also aware of them, but have not tested their 48Gbps functionality claim and I know they are not certified as true HDMI 2.1 cables thru ATC testing, e.g.



Thus I was very hesitant (as I assume was also the case with gkolb ) to recommend them to Aduba, only list their existence and claim.

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

you going to move more cars in the 5 lane.

For HDMI 2.1 cables why not just 4 lanes (4x12Gbps) for an aggregate of 48Gbps? Do these cables have more than 4 lanes?

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, I just came back from town...Victoria, near where you were just recently, that big Island across.

Sony makes great TVs, OLED and LED, their latest top models.
LG makes great OLED TVs, Samsung with QLED, Panasonic OLED.
They all blew me away. And size does matter.

I occasionally have talks with audio/video dealers, like I had again today.

There is no best but what turns us on. Life's good Penton, real good, and the surroundings are splendid near the mountains, ocean, beautiful people. It's like looking through the best HDR telescope of life.

[Penton-Man]

Lucky you, since we’ve gotten back from Vancouver between the heat and humidity in SoCal, it’s been absolutely sweltering around here making our bike rides really challenging.

A little trivia about LG and the ‘Life’s Good’ motto…..https://www.lg.com/us/experiencehappiness

LG actually stands for Lucky Goldstar.

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Life's good Penton, real good, and the surroundings are splendid near the mountains, ocean, beautiful people. It's like looking through the best HDR telescope of life.

You forgot to mention dem eagles (North Shore in the background)….



and their extra fovea.

[LordoftheRings]

Yes, tons of eagles here everywhere, and when you're lucky enough in the right channel (passage), killer whales...Orcas.

They don't kill, it's just a name.
• https://globalnews.ca/video/4260736/...-inner-harbour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Lm...ature=youtu.be

_____

Now check this one out from just couple hours ago:
• http://thechive.com/2018/08/12/kille...shes-it-video/

Killer whales don't kill, but they can take your sailing boat for a joy ride!
It happens all the time; best is to hire private police whales to patrol your sailing boat. Would you like that, some killer whale stealing your sailboat just for kick and crashing it of another sailboat!
They're like kids who need supervision, only few of them not all of them, the black sheeps.
We need more cops killer whales in our waters where I live. ...The black and white killer whale cops with a red light on top and a police siren with whale's pitch.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

in San Diego

b.t.w., as mentioned last year and printed on the back of my pass – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post14070267

CEDIA returns to San Diego again this year. Due to other commitments, I will not be able to attend this time (nor, for that matter, IBC); however, heads-up to a Lunch n’ Learn by Jeff regarding the latest on 8K, digital signaling solutions, registration here - https://metrahometheater.com/cedia.html

Also, as I mentioned last September for those who might yearn for barbecue and enjoy Top Gun nostalgia, there’s this –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Note:
For the nostalgic film fans who really liked Top Gun that might get hungry and yearn for some barbecue while in town for CEDIA. Just up the road (minutes by bike or auto) from the San Diego Convention Center, there’s this….http://kcbbq.net/

As you should remember this scene -

Maverick and Goose "Great Balls Of Fire" (Top Gun) - YouTube

[Robert Zohn]

Speaking of San Diego, one of my favorite places, CEDIA is hosting the 2018 conference again in San Diego. September 4-9, 2018.

Maybe we should set-up a meet and greet with Blu-ray.com members. Anyone interested?

[Penton-Man]

Well Kris is going there for work. Not sure if he’ll have time to hook-up with you. Call him if he doesn’t drop in here and notice your post in the meantime.

[Robert Zohn]

How about ^ you and other Blu-ray.com members? Should I start a thread?

[tommyboy81]

I would love to come, hang out, and get to learn more about this stuff since I'm trying to get back into it. But theres no way for me to even go there this year. Heck, my Cousins wedding is next week on the Cali coast and I can't go. It would make me look really bad if I went but didn't fly all the way over for her wedding. lol

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Speaking of San Diego, one of my favorite places, CEDIA is hosting the 2018 conference again in San Diego. September 4-9, 2018.

Maybe we should set-up a meet and greet with Blu-ray.com members. Anyone interested?

I'm game so long as it doesn't overlap any of my existing obligations!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

How about ^ you and other Blu-ray.com members? Should I start a thread?

Sorry Robert, I think you missed the ‘not’ in my previous post. Can’t make it this year – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15401768