Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Mike2060]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

There's nothing wrong with more grain if it means more picture detail.

Lol. I think he's being sarcastic.

[Mike2060]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

For anyone saying these look "identical", you either have eye or monitor issues or both........



Watch as Bilbo turns 15 years younger or so and transforms into a wax figure in the first shot

How can you not see a difference in favor of the HDTV???

If someone can't see how the first cap looks awful, then they really don't have a right to argue. Also, DNR doesn't disappear with motion so those who think it will go away magically when you are playing the BD you will be very disappointed.

Haha, and the second one may be worse. Gandalf's beard is a cluster****.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Mike2060

Lol. I think he's being sarcastic.

No...... no he's not.......

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

If directors are so intent on people seeing the work "how it was meant to be seen" then they also shouldnt be letting most of their movies on tv be shown non OAR just so they can 16x9 fill the tv.

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

I love these threads cause they can go on forever.

My point is i would be happy if every movie (yes a movie not a film or whatever the stuckup term is) looked like WALL-E or any Pixar movie as opposed to how gladiator or 300 look.

I dont like grain....you do.
I like the cowboys....you dont.

See....endless.

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Grain sux.

I want the looking out a window look.

Thats why i like 240hz motionflow.

Thats why WALL-E, movies in that ilk look great.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

IMO the other guy is mad, just like the rest of you guys are about them not being the EE and trying to find any reason to nit pick.

Well I have this one theory I'm working on that says the moon causes cancer, but as much as I'd love to sit here and trade crazy conspiracy theories with you I have a tin foil hat to build.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post16338720

I've always liked that they were releasing both versions. I was going to buy them both happily. I had this preordered until just a couple days ago as I assumed there was not a chance in Hell they weren't going to give it top treatment.

There's one reason and one reason only I'm complaining: It's so, so, so obviously as sub-par transfer. After looking at all of the screens that've been posted - for anyone that knows even the slightest amount about A/V it's just glaringly obvious.

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

There's nothing wrong with more grain if it means more picture detail.

Sweet.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by Maggot

We have all seen what well executed transfers can look like. By the screen caps, it is clear that what is on the Blu-ray is better than DVD, but is also clear that the PQ presentation is sub-par for Blu-ray. Considering the money to be had by releasing this then again with a new version and the EE's, it is extremely unwise to give creedance to producers and business types with this situation. As these movies are relatilvely new, shot on good stock, and facilities with state of the art technology exist to create new, prestine HD masters, expectations were high and given the fact again, that we have seen some great transfers demonstrating just how good Blu-ray can be, those expectations were hardly unreasonable for these movies. Considering we have already seen this sort of thing before with The Fifth Element, Gladiator and The Gangs of New York, there is no reason the transfers should not look like the proverbial 10.

Warner won't be re-releasing new transfers for the theatrical versions of LOTR for many, many years to come. I'd say 2016-17 at the absolute earliest. They have bigger fish to fry.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

-REVIEW HERE-

I just saw on AVS that this is how he breaks it down for PQ per movie:


2.75 - 3 for FOTR

3 for TTT

3.5 for ROTK

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Mike2060

If someone can't see how the first cap looks awful, then they really don't have a right to argue. Also, DNR doesn't disappear with motion so those who think it will go away magically when you are playing the BD you will be very disappointed.

Haha, and the second one may be worse. Gandalf's beard is a cluster****.

Man, I hear you and completely agree It is plain as day how bad it is. I dont know how anyone could debate this

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by captveg

Warner won't be re-releasing new transfers for the theatrical versions of LOTR for many, many years to come. I'd say 2016-17 at the absolute earliest. They have bigger fish to fry.

Well then at the very least maybe they'll be somehow convinced to release good quality versions of the EE then, seeing as they're releasing those regardless.... rather than releasing a shit version of the EE first and releasing a decent one in 2019.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I just saw on AVS that this is how he breaks it down for PQ per movie:


2.75 - 3 for FOTR

3 for TTT

3.5 for ROTK

I noticed that as well.......WOW

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by captveg

Warner won't be re-releasing new transfers for the theatrical versions of LOTR for many, many years to come. I'd say 2016-17 at the absolute earliest. They have bigger fish to fry.

There is still hope for the EE though which is why we need to be vocal NOW.

[Diesel]

I never used to have interest in seeing the EEs, but lately I find myself wanting to check them out. I've read the descriptions of what's different on sites like moviecensorship but I want to see it for myself one of these days.

I might pick them up some day if I can find them for very cheap so I can check them out since no one I know has them.

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

I noticed that as well.......WOW

Thats the same guy from home theater shack, again I'll take Bill Hunts word over any part timer out there. If it was R Potts it would be different.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I never used to have interest in seeing the EEs, but lately I find myself wanting to check them out. I've read the descriptions of what's different on sites like moviecensorship but I want to see it for myself one of these days.

I might pick them up some day if I can find them for very cheap so I can check them out since no one I know has them.

You live in Denver by some off chance? If so, you can borrow my set

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

You live in Denver by some off chance? If so, you can borrow my set

Louisiana.

That's like right next door though right




Edit: Hold on a sec, I think I just thought of a friend who MIGHT have them....going to have to ask him about it next time I see him.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

Thats the same guy from home theater shack, again I'll take Bill Hunts word over any part timer out there. If it was R Potts it would be different.

In this situation, I wont, but that is just me. Plus I am familiar enough with Dave as a reviewer to know he is completely credible from what I have experienced in relation to his reviews.

I respect your feelings though and if I was not as familiar with Dave as I am and knew that he was as credible as he is (again from my experience in relation to his reviews) I might feel the same way.

Originally Posted by Diesel

Louisiana.

That's like right next door though right

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I never used to have interest in seeing the EEs, but lately I find myself wanting to check them out. I've read the descriptions of what's different on sites like moviecensorship but I want to see it for myself one of these days.

I might pick them up some day if I can find them for very cheap so I can check them out since no one I know has them.

You can probably get them on ebay used for around 10 bucks a set. I guess it depends on how cheap is cheap, though.

I love both versions, but I remember being blown away by the EE if nothing else than for the fact that in an era where "Director's" or "Extended" cut is a sham, usually an extra 10 - 30 seconds worth of footage in a given movie used as nothing more than a selling point, the Extended versions of LotR added more content than was almost believable. If you like the LotR movies, you have to watch 'em at least once.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

You can probably get them on ebay used for around 10 bucks a set. I guess it depends on how cheap is cheap, though.

I love both versions, but I remember being blown away by the EE if nothing else than for the fact that in an era where "Director's" or "Extended" cut usually means an extra 10 - 30 seconds worth of footage in a given movie the Extended version of LotR added more content than was almost believable. If you like the LotR movies, you have to watch 'em at least once.

Just saw they are going for like about $8 each in the Marketplace on Amazon. If my friend doesn't have them I may pick them up some time this summer to give them a watch; since I doubt iTunes or the PSN or the rental store in town would have the EEs.


Well Return of the King theatrical is my favorite movie, so I guess I have an obligation to see it.

Of course I've read that the EE of RotK is the weakest additions.

[masoud90]

Not long left at all! Can't believe time has flown so fast! I remember back in like January when they released the news, I was like omg we have to wait 4 months!!!! Now it's due in less than two weeks!!! WOOHOOOOOO

[Stinky-Dinkins]

I love them all, but they're definitely not perfect. The EE scene in RotK where Saruman fires down a 1980's fireball on Gandalf was pretty clunky looking in particular...

[LetoAtreides82]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

There's nothing wrong with more grain if it means more picture detail.

You don't see grain in real life, why would you want it in a film?